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« on: January 29, 2010, 08:31:35 PM » |
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Its from a dolphins blog hence all the miami references:
Guest blogger scouts the Senior Bowl
I did not attend the Senior Bowl this year despite the fact the Dolphins are coaching the South team because, well, the game is in Mobile, Alabama and I've been there and done that. Given the choice of being in Miami or Mobile in January my choice is an easy one.
But that doesn't mean you won't get the insight from the event you have come to expect on this blog -- which I suppose is the reason you are here. So I today introduce you to Chris Cordero.
Cordero, 27, is from Miami and is working to break into professional scouting. He trained under Marc Trestman, Russ Lande, John Wooten and Aaron Schatz. He's attended the Indy Combine the past two years and expects to do so again this year. This is his first Senior Bowl. What you are about to read are not complete Cordero scouting reports. He sent me one and my eyes were bleeding by the time I finished reading it, it was so detailed. The quick takes below are strictly reader-friendly versions of his expertise. Any NFL team interested in talking to Chris should e-mail me and I'll discretely hook you up with this up-and-comer.
For the next few days Cordero will scout the players at the Senior Bowl at positions of interest to the Dolphins. Cordero starts with a look at wide receivers and tight ends because he knows I really want the Dolphins to actually be able to pass the ball in 2010.
WIDE RECEIVER The Dolphins are loaded with small, possession receivers. The type of receiver the Dolphins need are generally not found at the Senior Bowl - as they are usually underclassmen (i.e.. Dez Bryant, Arrelious Benn, and Demaryious Thomas). Two of the top senior prospects, LSU's Brandon LaFell and Texas's Jordan Shipley are not participating in the game either. Here are my rankings for the Senior Bowl receivers: 1. Andre Roberts - 5-11, 194lbs - The Citadel. Career numbers: 286 receptions, 3,743 yards, 36 touchdowns Strengths: -Catches EVERYTHING thrown in his direction (even from Tim Tebow). -Quick feet and hands allow him to get separation. -Has very good speed and got work as a returner. -Runs great routes and put some nice double moves on possible first-round CB Patrick Robinson. -Fearless over the middle, got laid out by Taylor Mays and got right back up. Weaknesses: -Undersized; although has a solid build for his size and decent strength. -Can get jammed at the line - Javier Arenas jammed him a few times. Overall Analysis: Someone is going to get great value in the 3rd or 4th round with this guy - if he runs well at the combine - he could be a second rounder. Sadly, he is not 2 inches taller or he would be a first round lock. Dolphins have similar receivers on the roster already; but he could be really good. Showed he could play with top competition here at the Senior Bowl practices. 2. Taylor Price - 6-0, 198lbs - Ohio. Career numbers: 149 receptions, 2,019 yards, 14 touchdowns. Strengths: -Has good measurables (height, weight) very "put together" and appears to have good speed. -Runs decent routes and is quick in and out of breaks. -Good body control - made a beautiful adjustment in the air for a catch on a bad throw by Tony Pike against hard hitting LSU S Harry Coleman. -Goes up for the ball and catches it at it's highest point. -Can get open deep and creates separation from the DB with his strength; ran by Saints 1st Round Pick Malcolm Jenkins in college. Weakness: -Hands are a little inconsistent as he will make the highlight catch but drop the easy one. -Rounds off routes sometimes; which allows DBs to break on the ball. Overall Analysis: The buzz was that he was moving up draft boards and is at worst a fourth round pick - but could fit into the third. Rookie receivers don't always make an impact right away but this guy could be an exception - much like this year's rookie crop; including the Dolphins own Brian Hartline. 3. Mardy Gilyard - 6-0 179lbs - Cincinnati. Career numbers: 204 receptions, 3,003 yards, 25 touchdowns. Strengths: -Smooth and runs good routes. -Quick feet allow him to get off the line and beat the jam. -Gets good separation from defenders using his quickness. -Faster than most; but also very quick, -Could be a great returner (and won't always run out of bounds...). Weaknesses: -Very light and has ankle injury history. -Inconsistent catching the ball; will drop the easy one and needs to concentrate more. -Needs to develop strength in order to go over the middle and go up for the ball in traffic. Overall Analysis: Most have him pegged as a second rounder; I see his value in the third. If he can add some bulk and strength and keep his quickness, he could develop into a very good NFL receiver as long as his focus is there. HONORABLE MENTION: Two players who aren't really wide receivers but practiced there really stood out. Dorin Dickerson out of Pittsburgh was one of the most impressive players on either team. Has great speed, leaping ability and caught just about everything thrown his way. His strength allowed him to shield defenders from the ball and make the tough catch. A smart offensive coordinator will find a way to use him (he played mostly Tight End and Fullback at Pittsburgh) and he might even be drafted as a WR by draft day. Dexter McCluster out of Mississippi was also very impressive - even running the Wildcat under the Dolphins staff. He was the most explosive, quick, fast player on either team. Think of Darren Sproles but a better receiver and tough between the tackles. His 165-pound size is his only drawback. Riley Cooper and Shay Hodge (who didn't practice and was limping Thursday) were the only other receivers who relatively stood out. Donald Jones from Youngstown State, who I only saw practice Thursday was pretty impressive but that was only in helmets and shoulder pads. TIGHT END Granted this is not one of the Dolphins greatest needs but if WR is a "must have" this could fall under the "need" umbrella. Anthony Fasano struggled much of the year after two fumbles in the opener. Despite picking it up a little late, there is no guarantee he will revert to his 2008 form. The top senior tight end, Jermaine Gresham of Oklahoma, did not participate as he is still rehabbing right knee surgery; and top junior Aaron Hernandez from Florida is not eligible. 1. Ed Dickson - 6-4, 244lbs - Oregon Career numbers: 124 receptions, 1,557 yards, 12 touchdowns Strengths: -Big target with the ability to separate from defenders; would have had three TDs during one of the practices. -Good hands and catches most everything thrown to him away from his body - even in traffic; strong hands. -Good athlete with good speed and decent leaping ability. -Shows good blocking technique and tries in this area. Weaknesses: -Undersized with a lack of bulk; which hurts him as a blocker. -Could use work on route running. Overall Analysis: Would be a good value in the fourth round - but will probably go in the third. Is essentially a pumped up wide receiver (similar to Kory Sperry) but is a good overall prospect. 2. Anthony McCoy - 6-5, 249lbs - Southern Cal Career numbers: 46 receptions, 731 yards, 3 touchdowns Strengths; -Looks the part with long arms and a solid build. -Good speed to stretch the middle of the field. -Looked good as a blocker at the practices; has very good strength; and put Eric Norwood on the ground once. -Can make the highlight reel catch with his size, leaping ability, and strength and will fight for ball in traffic. Weaknesses: -Drops some easy passes. -Very inconsistent in college; labeled an underachiever and didn't have great production (although that might be due to supporting cast). Overall Analysis: Will probably come off the board in the second round - too high for the Dolphins to take him there. Looks like he will be a better pro than college player as he has all the tools to succeed and was very eager to learn from coach George DeLeone. 3. Jimmy Graham - 6-6, 259lbs - Miami Career numbers: 17 receptions, 213 yards, 5 touchdowns Strengths: -Great athlete as evidenced by career playing hoops - tremendous leaping ability and good speed. -Uses body well and would be a beast in the red zone. -Can split the seam and is fluid in his routes for someone with so little experience. -Can make the difficult catch. -Has good natural strength and long arms. -Wants to learn and seeks out coaching. Weaknesses: -Inconsistent; will lose concentration and drop some easy passes (Virginia Tech game this past year and in the practices). -His size can be a detriment in the run-blocking game as smaller defenders can use leverage and push him back. -Still needs work on his routes. Overall Analysis: If he would have played football instead of basketball; or even if he would have had one more year of college football - would have been a first round lock. Someone will take a flyer on him in the 3rd round - call me a homer but I hope it's the Dolphins - due to his upside, and his potential is almost limitless if he wants it bad enough (he turned down a six figure basketball contract; so he must want it). HONORABLE MENTION: The other tight ends at the practices were also pretty good. Mike Hoomanawanui (say that 3 times fast) out of Illinois has good hands and is a strong blocker, but lacks speed and athleticism. Garrett Graham out of Wisconsin, who owned the University of Miami in the Champs Sports Bowl, is slightly undersized but has great hands and a feel for finding seams in the zone and getting open. Colin Peek from Alabama got sick - but looks the part and catches and blocks well. Tomorrow: NT and FS.
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« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2010, 08:32:26 PM » |
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USC TE Anthony McCoy -- After a slow start McCoy ended the week the way we expected, employing good footwork and hand use to get clean releases off the line. He also showed the ability to get down the field, and we were surprised at the vertical speed McCoy showed and how quickly he was able to get on top of linebackers. He also caught the ball much better on Day 4, snatching it away from his frame. McCoy might have been a bit rusty after missing USC's bowl game, but after his focus came around this week we saw the same player whose film impressed us during the season. Throw in the fact that he is a sound run-blocker and McCoy is clearly the most complete tight end in this year's class.
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« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2010, 08:35:36 PM » |
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great to see jimmy graham doing well. pretty impressive for one year of football to be a third rounder
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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2010, 08:36:35 PM » |
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Anything on ND players Sam "mud feet" Young or Eric "9 months pregnant belly" Olsen? 
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« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2010, 08:36:42 PM » |
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If McCoy is half the blocker that Fred Davis is, perennial all-pro.
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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2010, 08:37:37 PM » |
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If McCoy is half the blocker that Fred Davis is, perennial all-pro.
McCoy is 10 times the blocker.
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2010, 08:44:16 PM » |
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I havent seen much of mccoy because he plays on the west coast and i believe was ineligible for the bowl game but some of those catches he made in the ND game were pretty impressive
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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2010, 08:46:10 PM » |
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-Catches EVERYTHING thrown in his direction (even from Tim Tebow).
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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2010, 08:46:32 PM » |
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I gotta say, I think Colin Peek is better than the 6-7th best TE out there.
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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2010, 09:06:30 PM » |
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I gotta say, I think Colin Peek is better than the 6-7th best TE out there.
He was battling the same illness as tebow supposedly
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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2010, 09:07:01 PM » |
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He was battling the same illness as tebow supposedly
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« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2010, 01:09:12 AM » |
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This is Day Two of player Scouting Reports from the Senior Bowl.
Chris Cordero of Miami drove 11 hours from South Florida to Mobile, Alabama to see the North and South teams practice and be able to report back to you his take on the talent. Cordero, 27, is an aspiring professional scout who trained under talented personnel men.Any NFL team interested in seeing Cordero's complete work can e-mail me and I will discretely put you in contact with him.
This is Cordero's abbreviated look at the nose tackle and free safety positions -- two more positions of need for the Dolphins. FREE SAFETY After the signing of Gibril Wilson and the resigning of Yeremiah Bell - the Dolphins must have believed they were set at the position for the near future. I must politely disagree. While Bell is a Pro Bowl player and should still have 1 or 2 good years left, Wilson struggled - particularly in coverage - which is a free safety's biggest responsibility in most defenses. While Chris Clemons might yet turn out to be the answer and Tyrone Culver probably deserves more of an opportunity, this position could use an upgrade as Wilson should not be expected back especially in an uncapped year. The top players at this position are underclassmen (Eric Berry, Earl Thomas - who I think is going to be great, Morgan Burnett, Chad Jones, Major Wright). Most of the Safety prospects in the Senior Bowl look to be more of the In-The-Box, Strong Safety variety - but there where a few guys who stood out to me. 1. Nate Allen - 6-1, 205lbs - South Florida Career numbers: 216 tackles, 1 sack, 2 fumbles forced, 10 interceptions, 1 touchdown Strengths: -Ideal build for a free safety with more than adequate speed for the deep secondary. -Fluid in his movement; accelerates out of his breaks; plants and drives out of his backpedal cleanly. -Is able to read routes and the QB; making him an ideal centerfielder in the secondary. -Is not a big hitter; but will support the run and is a solid, wrap-up tackler. -Leader in the secondary, gets everyone lined up and makes the coverage calls Weaknesses: -Could struggle when asked to man-up a receiver; but his skill set will allow him to get by from time-to-time; although very fast receivers (i.e. a DeSean Jackson) would eat him up. -Might have reached his physical limits (weight, height, speed) and does not have the upside of some of the underclassmen. Overall Analysis: A player that I really like and would be a good fit in the 2nd Round for the Dolphins. Sometimes when a player doesn't stand out with big plays or big hits, he tends to get looked over - and that could happen with this guy. He could be a solid free safety for a very long time in this league thanks to his smarts and abilities. 2. Myron Rolle - 6-1, 217lbs - Florida State / Oxford University in England Career numbers at FSU: 207 tackles, 1 fumble forced, 1 interception Strengths: -A genius outside of football; he has a great mind for the game as well - rarely out of position and is always asking the coaches questions; won't make the same mistake twice. -Stays low, with good technique, in his backpedal and drives to the ball when it is in the air. -Good size for the position; not afraid to hit, and is a secure tackler (not always looking for the big hit - but he can bring it). -When in coverage - did a nice job of using his body to keep the receiver near the sideline a few times. -Has good range despite a lack of speed due to his route reading ability. Weaknesses: -Lacks top end speed which could force him to be more of a Strong Safety. -Didn't show up in the practices - but a year away from the game could hurt him. -Had some trouble flipping his hips and turning and running with the WR. -Doesn't have great hands to make INTs. Overall Analysis: Here is Rolle in a nutshell - on one play, he got beat on a double move (I think by Shay Hodge from Mississippi - who was one of the better receivers here) a couple of plays later - Jeremy Williams of Tulane tried the same move and Rolle recognized and broke on the ball; disallowing the completion. I can't say for certain that he can be a free safety in the NFL due to his weaknesses, but failure is not an option for this guy and I wouldn't bet against him. If he runs well at the Combine he'll be a solid 2nd Round pick and would be a steal in the 3rd. You can't teach a lot of the things that he has. 3. Taylor Mays - 6-3, 231lbs - Southern Cal Career numbers: 268 tackles, 1 forced fumble, 5 interceptions Strengths: -Physically - he has no faults; speed, size, leaping ability, he has all those tools. -Aggressive hitter - brings the wood and will clean some clocks if you dare go in his zone. -Has decent hands when actually going for the ball and plucks it at it's highest point. -Will be a beast in run support - as he was at USC and is very good between the numbers on the field. -Can jam the receiver with good hand usage and upper body strength at the line of scrimmage. -Seems to want to learn and reports say he studies the lots of film. Weaknesses: -Coverage skills are extremely lacking - stiff in the hips; trouble backpedaling; doesn't plant and drive to the ball; gets too high out of his backpedal; slow in reverse - got beat constantly with double moves. -Has little range - if the play isn't going on around him - will be late to react. -Gave up a lot of underneath receptions during practice that occurred right in front of him. Overall Analysis: I almost put Terrell Skinner out of Maryland in this spot. Mays will be a 1st Round Pick (Al Davis in Oakland loves this type of guy and maybe his college coach Pete Carroll in Seattle will take him) and if he gets past those two teams; some team in the 20's will take him because his potential is just too great. As an athletic specimen - he has no peers. I don't see him making it as a FS and could see him ending up like Thomas Davis of Carolina - a college safety out of Georgia who was a physical specimen but ended up at OLB. Doesn't fit the Dolphins unless they are looking to groom Yeremiah's replacement. HONORABLE MENTION: The above mentioned Terrell Skinner out of Maryland was the only other FS of note. He is a converted receiver still learning the position - but has great size and is a big hitter. He needs work on his technique - but could be a good value in the late rounds. Kurt Coleman of Ohio State and Kyle McCarthy of Notre Dame were thoroughly unimpressive; Harry Coleman of LSU - who played OLB this year in college - looked like a good in-the-box strong safety. Larry Asante of Nebraska also looked very good and got better as the week went on - but again is more of a Strong Safety, but has good range for the position. Another player I would like to mention is Chris Cook, a big Cornerback out of Virginia, he reminds me some of the Dolphins own Sean Smith and would seem to have the tools to play the free safety spot. NOSE TACKLE After Jason Ferguson went down - so did the Dolphins run defense. Paul Soliai had his moments - but would be better off in a rotation; although he is so big and young enough that he can improve. This is a vital position for the 3-4 defense; and such a tough one to get a read on as not too many colleges run a 3-4. A nose tackle in most 3-4 defenses is usually responsible for occupying blockers and allowing the LBs to make the plays; although there are exceptions (Jay Ratliff, a Parcells pick, out of Dallas made an extraordinary number of plays for a NT last year). You generally don't see them go too high in the draft as they have to learn the position and are drafted later in the draft and developed - like Jason Ferguson and Ratliff. Here are some names not at this game to remember - Brian Price from UCLA (Underclassman - likely 1st Rounder); Torrell Troup from UCF; Vince Oghobaase from Duke; Linval Joseph from East Carolina (Underclassman); Al Woods from LSU; Jay Ross from East Carolina; Martin Tevaseu from UNLV, and Kade Weston from Georgia (there are a few more names - but I don't want to concentrate on players not at the game). These are only the players I feel can play NT - so stud DT Jared Odrick from Penn State won't be ranked (although he would be a GREAT 3-4 DE - but that position seems set with Phillip Merling, Randy Starks, and Kendall Langford). 1. Dan Williams - 6-2, 329lbs - Tennessee Career numbers: 153 tackles, 6 sacks Strengths: -Very strong, stout, huge lower body - looks fire hydrant-ish (for lack of better terminology - is that even a word?). -Fires off the ball, low and hard and gets underneath the Offensive Lineman's pads to push back. -Is able to draw and hold a double team - allowing his teammates to make the play (telling sign of a good NT). -Has long arms allowing him to keep linemen off his frame. -Is a good tackler to boot. Weaknesses: -Only pass-rush move is a bullrush; which worked in college-but won't work consistently in the pros. -Could use his hands better - some of the interior linemen, like John Jerry, were able to jam him up. Overall Analysis: A 1st Rounder - but not the 12th pick. If the Dolphins decide the player that they want is not available at #12, they could trade back to the late teens or early 20s and take this guy. Watching him up close most of his weight is in his lower body - with extremely thick legs which means a strong base. I didn't see him on the ground much and that is a testament to that base. I DID see him bury Southern Cal Interior Lineman Jeff Byers once and his strength is evident. Has few visible weaknesses. 2. Cam Thomas - 6-4, 331lbs - North Carolina Career Numbers: 83 tackles, 3 sacks Strengths: -Massive - but carries it well - doesn't look fat (unlike SOMEONE that I will mention next) and carries his weight exceptionally well - could possibly put even more weight/strength on and still look this way. -Vocal leader - rallied the DLineman and was always hooting and hollering (I'm in Alabama so I can say that); watching him and Sean Weatherspoon of Missouri (who I have as a possible top ILB for the Fins) jabbering was one of the joys of the week. -Very strong - pushes blockers into the backfield. -Has good hand usage and is active and aggressive with them. -Draws double teams and reestablishes the line of scrimmage with his strength. -Looked athletic in drills for a man of his size. Weaknesses: -Lack of pass rush moves (a common theme amongst this position). -Needs work on his pad level as it is inconsistent - this could be due to his getting too upright after the snap due to his height. Overall Analysis: If he is available in the 4th Round (or if the Dolphins can pick a 5th Rounder somehow and he is there) - they should jump on this guy without hesitation. I feel after this week he could have possibly moved into the 3rd Round range though. Didn't have many weaknesses that I saw and his attitude and loud mouth are a plus in my book (someone has to replace Joey Porter right?). Could be in the league 10 years as a run-stopping NT much like Jason Ferguson. 3. Terrence "Mount" Cody - 6-4, 370lbs - Alabama Career numbers: 51 tackles, 1 forced fumble Strengths: -As his nickname attest - a huge human being - I got a chance to stand next to him and it was impressive how big he is. -Natural strength; is immovable when he wants to be. -Demands a double team - as he will throw a single blocker off him like a fly for the most part (John Jerry was among the only OLinemen that stood his ground versus this guy). -Plays are very rarely run at him so that would make it seem like he doesn't make many plays - but his presence allows his teammates to make plays. -Imposes his will, stands his ground, and will push blockers into the backfield. Weaknesses: -I'm sure everyone saw the picture on Mando's previous blog...... -Stamina is an issue. -Inconsistent effort - maturity could be an issue as I saw him goofing off a lot during drills. -Needs to stay low coming off the snap. -Lacks pass rush moves; although he had a nice swim move that I saw him make. -Was shut down by the aforementioned Jeff Byers at one point. -Was on the ground more often than I expected; which causes concern about his lower-body strength. Overall Analysis: If you are going to draft this guy it is knowing that he will strictly play 2 downs (or on short yardage situations) and that you have to monitor his weight and get him on a strict training regimen and diet. I don't see him as a 1st Rounder - but if the Dolphins are as impressed by him as they seemed to be (DLine Coach Kacy Rodgers was always with him and Sparano made it a point to check him out more than a couple times every practice) then maybe trading back from our 2nd round pick to a later one and picking up some extra picks would be a good spot for him. I think he could be the ideal NT - but at the same time he could be out of the league in 3 years. HONORABLE MENTION: Jeff Owens from Georgia spent a lot of time with Dan Williams and Terrence Cody with Coach Kacy Rodgers working on technique to break the double team. He is very short and looks like a mini version of Cody - so his conditioning would need work; but he is quite strong. None of the other DTs looked to be able to play the Nose; but again a lot of these players are developed. The most impressive Defensive Tackles were Jared Odrick of Penn State - who as mentioned would be a stud 3-4 DE and should be a 1st Rounder; Geno Atkins from Georgia - who at one point got some work with Mike Nolan and some of the DEs on OLB work - he is very quick and has good pass rush moves. None of the other DTs really stood out. Tomorrow: Look for ILB and OLB reports following the game. There are some very good 3-4 OLB prospects in the game - so keep an eye out for that.
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« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2010, 07:01:29 AM » |
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Sam Young/T/Notre Dame: Young, who played left tackle for Notre Dame, switched to the right side and struggled most of the week. He does not have the athleticism to protect the blind side on the NFL level and really did not display the power necessary to man the right tackle position either.
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« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2010, 07:09:43 AM » |
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Don't know why but will LOL all day if Rolle is taken before Maya
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