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« on: January 18, 2010, 10:41:47 AM »
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Ok so I have been at work and have been reading Lostpedia for about an hour now. I am also rewatching them over so I though we should start a thread that keeps going until the Premiere about theories and questions people have on the show. For people that are reading this there should be some rules. DO NOT post something about season 6 that you found on a spoiler site (DarkUFO) unless you use the spoiler function here. For people that havent watched the entire show yet, there will be spoilers from Season 1-5 and I dont think we need to use the spoiler function because everything would be in spoilers.

My first real question is really impossible to answer but would love to hear some theories.

Who the fuck is the "enemey"/other guy with Jacob that takes up Lockes form. Season 5 Finale he is shown with Jacob and he has 2 conversations with him. The first coversation he says he wants to kill Jacob badly and needs a loophole. Then when he shows up in the statute, Jacob notes that the enemy found his loophole.

Also how does Jacob know Illana

And Why did Jacob pick those people in his flashbacks to come to the island
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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2010, 10:43:23 AM »
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Also two more

What did Jacob mean when he said "They're coming" before he died

Who was shooting the people from the canoe thing
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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2010, 10:43:41 AM »
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Man if given up on theories until I see the first epi
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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2010, 02:57:13 PM »
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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2010, 03:40:58 PM »
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Ok so I have been at work and have been reading Lostpedia for about an hour now. I am also rewatching them over so I though we should start a thread that keeps going until the Premiere about theories and questions people have on the show. For people that are reading this there should be some rules. DO NOT post something about season 6 that you found on a spoiler site (DarkUFO) unless you use the spoiler function here. For people that havent watched the entire show yet, there will be spoilers from Season 1-5 and I dont think we need to use the spoiler function because everything would be in spoilers.

My first real question is really impossible to answer but would love to hear some theories.

Who the fuck is the "enemey"/other guy with Jacob that takes up Lockes form. Season 5 Finale he is shown with Jacob and he has 2 conversations with him. The first coversation he says he wants to kill Jacob badly and needs a loophole. Then when he shows up in the statute, Jacob notes that the enemy found his loophole.

Also how does Jacob know Illana

And Why did Jacob pick those people in his flashbacks to come to the island

All 3 of those questions are impossible to answer at this point
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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2010, 03:44:31 PM »
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I think that MIB and Smokey work together.
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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2010, 03:49:40 PM »
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I think that MIB and Smokey work together.

I agree there. I also think that Richard Alpert is very close with the MIB. Wouldnt suprise me if it was Richard
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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2010, 03:56:27 PM »
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Also, what is Frank a candidate for?

And what role will Christian, who "spoke on the behalf of Jacob," have now that Jacob is dead. And Claire too.
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« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2010, 03:59:04 PM »
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NO  SPOILERS PLEASE

I have stayed away from any lost threads because I was afraid something might be posted.

I can't wait for this season to start.

I am starting to watch season 1 right  now.  Hopefully I will have all the season's finished by the start of the final season

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« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2010, 04:01:29 PM »
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NO  SPOILERS PLEASE

I have stayed away from any lost threads because I was afraid something might be posted.

I can't wait for this season to start.

I am starting to watch season 1 right  now.  Hopefully I will have all the season's finished by the start of the final season



What kind of spoilers are you talking about? Spoilers for Seasons 1-5 or Season 6?
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« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2010, 04:04:25 PM »
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I think that MIB and Smokey work together.

I thought that's what the consensus was?

It's crazy to look back at the series now knowing about MIB b/c everytime that Jacob has been mentioned and his cabin, it was MIB not Jacob. Jacob had not been in that cabin "for a long time" and was living in the statue the whole time so anytime they went to "Jacob's" cabin, it was actually the MIB's cabin.

I agree there. I also think that Richard Alpert is very close with the MIB. Wouldnt suprise me if it was Richard

Totally, totally disagree.

MIB had no idea where Jacob was hiding that's why the MIB took over Locke's body to get to Alpert & Ben so that Richard would take the MIB to Jacob.
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« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2010, 04:04:53 PM »
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What kind of spoilers are you talking about? Spoilers for Seasons 1-5 or Season 6?

Season 6

I have watched season 1-5 already

I am re watching to freshen up my memory

I just dont want anything to be posted about season 6. Not ep titles or anything.  I was pissed when I found out  that former cast members are  making an appearance in season 6
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« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2010, 04:11:25 PM »
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Season 6

I have watched season 1-5 already

I am re watching to freshen up my memory

I just dont want anything to be posted about season 6. Not ep titles or anything.  I was pissed when I found out  that former cast members are  making an appearance in season 6

Well if you keep up with viral stuff then you would know this. It's not that big of a deal, trust me. I have kept up with all the viral/off season stuff and none of it has ruined the show.
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« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2010, 04:12:24 PM »
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Well if you keep up with viral stuff then you would know this. It's not that big of a deal, trust me. I have kept up with all the viral/off season stuff and none of it has ruined the show.

I avoid everything LOST but the promos. 
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« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2010, 04:14:01 PM »
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I wonder how Desmond will play into this season. Since the island isn't finished with him yet.
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« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2010, 04:16:22 PM »
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I avoid everything LOST but the promos. 
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« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2010, 04:18:35 PM »
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why all of the sudden are there so many lost topics
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« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2010, 04:23:25 PM »
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why all of the sudden are there so many lost topics

Because there is only 2 weeks to the premiere and everyone including myself has started watching the show again and have questions
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« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2010, 04:25:09 PM »
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« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2010, 04:26:53 PM »
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I think that MIB and Smokey work together.
I think they are the exact same entity, much like in the Bible there is God, son and the holy spirit, but they are one true entity. This is how I feel about MIB and Smokey.

Go watch the episode last season where Ben is judged by the smoke monster. First he goes into his closet and calls smokey. When he goes outside, he hears something in the trees, and it ends up being Locke (as smokey/MIB) who comes out. Then they go to the temple (with "Locke" saying that's where they should go) and Ben falls down through the old rock. "Locke" says he'll go grab rope, and smokey appears right after that to Ben, and tells Ben not to kill Locke (because if he did, his plan to kill Jacob would be ruined). Once Ben is finished being judged, "Locke" suddenly appears again, and all is well.

This last season was great, because I think it showed that smokey/MIB has been wanting to do this for years (the first scene in the finale shows this). Look back at stuff we saw during season 5 though. Danielle's crew getting "sick". Unlike Ben, Danielle was able to notice something was different with everyone. She thought they were sick, but what they really were, was dead. Had her hubby been able to kill her, we would have had Jacob killed back in the 80s, instead of 2007. He's been trying to find a loophole with all these people.

I think he wanted Locke from the very moment he came to the island. Look back at the season 1 finale. He grabs John, and drags him a long ways, and he almost goes down his hole. John being the weird guy he was, wanted to go down there, not knowing he would be killed, then have his body used to kill Jacob. MIB was so close to almost getting control of John in 2004, but ended up having to wait til 2007, when he finally got his loophole.
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« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2010, 04:28:35 PM »
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Just watched the series but I have no clue who you're talking about with the MIB and Smokey stuff.  Who are they?
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« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2010, 04:31:11 PM »
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Just watched the series but I have no clue who you're talking about with the MIB and Smokey stuff.  Who are they?
MIB (man in black, color of shirt he wore, while Jacob wore white) - guy who talked to Jacob in "The Incident" (season 5 finale)
Smokey - smoke monster
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« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2010, 04:34:24 PM »
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MIB (man in black, color of shirt he wore, while Jacob wore white) - guy who talked to Jacob in "The Incident" (season 5 finale)
Smokey - smoke monster

O ok.  The guy who talked to Jacob on the beach and said he wanted to kill him?  Got it

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« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2010, 04:38:55 PM »
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O ok.  The guy who talked to Jacob on the beach and said he wanted to kill him?  Got it

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Yep.

Another thing that's interesting is that there seems to be a lot of "rules" about what can and can't be done. MIB had to find a loophole to kill Jacob. Ben's daughter was killed, and Ben responded by trying to kill Widmore's daughter, but not kill him. Hopefully we find out more about the rules in the final season. I have a feeling that the book of law this picture has a lot of stuff pertaining to what can and can't be done in this "war":

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« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2010, 04:42:35 PM »
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I think they are the exact same entity, much like in the Bible there is God, son and the holy spirit, but they are one true entity. This is how I feel about MIB and Smokey.

Go watch the episode last season where Ben is judged by the smoke monster. First he goes into his closet and calls smokey. When he goes outside, he hears something in the trees, and it ends up being Locke (as smokey/MIB) who comes out. Then they go to the temple (with "Locke" saying that's where they should go) and Ben falls down through the old rock. "Locke" says he'll go grab rope, and smokey appears right after that to Ben, and tells Ben not to kill Locke (because if he did, his plan to kill Jacob would be ruined). Once Ben is finished being judged, "Locke" suddenly appears again, and all is well.

This last season was great, because I think it showed that smokey/MIB has been wanting to do this for years (the first scene in the finale shows this). Look back at stuff we saw during season 5 though. Danielle's crew getting "sick". Unlike Ben, Danielle was able to notice something was different with everyone. She thought they were sick, but what they really were, was dead. Had her hubby been able to kill her, we would have had Jacob killed back in the 80s, instead of 2007. He's been trying to find a loophole with all these people.

I think he wanted Locke from the very moment he came to the island. Look back at the season 1 finale. He grabs John, and drags him a long ways, and he almost goes down his hole. John being the weird guy he was, wanted to go down there, not knowing he would be killed, then have his body used to kill Jacob. MIB was so close to almost getting control of John in 2004, but ended up having to wait til 2007, when he finally got his loophole.

I agree with that. Whenever a character has seen a person that IS NOT on the island, they almost always die.

Dave - Hurley almost jumped
Christian - Jack chased him and fell over a cliff
Yemi - Lead Eko to the monster and killed him
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« Reply #25 on: January 18, 2010, 04:44:46 PM »
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I agree with that. Whenever a character has seen a person that IS NOT on the island, they almost always die.

Dave - Hurley almost jumped
Christian - Jack chased him and fell over a cliff
Yemi - Lead Eko to the monster and killed him
After watching the whole series last spring, I re-watched all the episodes with my brother at the end of the summer/beginning of the school year. The Yemi situation is the one that stood out to me the most. Back then we didn't know much, but looking back, it's obvious smokey has control over the dead. Yemi walks behind a plane, smokey comes out, Eko is done. We should have known right there that Christian shouldn't be trusted.
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« Reply #26 on: January 18, 2010, 04:46:50 PM »
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Season 6

I have watched season 1-5 already

I am re watching to freshen up my memory

I just dont want anything to be posted about season 6. Not ep titles or anything.  I was pissed when I found out  that former cast members are  making an appearance in season 6
They're all on the promotional posters.  It's been obvious for months and we knew they'd go all out for the final season.  idk
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« Reply #27 on: January 18, 2010, 05:21:11 PM »
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SIAP, but this is a good read on the timeline of Lost.  No spoilers, just some explanations.

http://www.timelooptheory.com/the_timeline.html
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« Reply #29 on: January 18, 2010, 05:31:48 PM »
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Two years ago, I would have barely believed it. But now I definitely don't. they said they're done with time travel, and I think something like this would be too complicated for the show. Some people had trouble grasping time travel, imagine what they would do seeing this laughing dog
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