UCF has a lot more to offer P5 conferences than Boise or Southern Miss ever did. I would think a goal would be to position yourselves to join one of those conferences.
I think the current schedule for 2019, which includes a home and home with Stanford and defending ACC Coastal Champ Pitt is pretty good. Didn't we have home and homes with Mizzu and South Carolina this decade? Why would we ever entertain a home-neutral-home with Florida. I see no problem with UF's position, why would they do a home and home when they get all the other FCS and G5 teams willing to do 2-1?
Funny thing, Boise actually never scheduled that way. They played a soft out of conference every year. Winning is all that matters and we do plenty of that.
they would schedule a single P5 game, usually as the opening game so they would have a month to prepare for it. Then you talk about us having a weak conference schedule, the WAC was like playing HS teams most weeks
Basically, a deal between UF and UCF benefits neither school and the discussion should end there. I’m fine playing Stanford, GT, Pitt, Louisville, etc. in a home and home series. We don’t need UF in any way shape or form.
Yea, we make between 2 million and 4 million dollars on home games, not even including the difference in sales for our vendors and local shops (which increases what we can ask for in rent). Our TV contract is $2 million per year (compared to the $40 million plus P5 schools are getting). We can't financially bankrupt ourselves by taking a bunch of away games and giving up that much needed revenue at a time when the college football arms races is hotter than ever. We need to keep things going in the short term and find a way into a better conference, otherwise, this whole thing is for naught. A game at the Camping World might be a "home game" for us, but Florida Citrus Sports would make sure that we saw little revenue from it. If we were talking a one and done sponsored neutral site game, then I'm all for it. That way we have the revenue from the game and can plan around it financially by treating it as a one time away game for our schedule. But doing two home games and then what is essentially a neutral site game? It's idiotic for our bottom line.
And the Boise State thing is just a revisionist portrayal of their history. They had a home and home with Oregon (2008-2009), Washington (2013 and 2015), Wazzu (2016 and 2017), UVA (2015 and 2017), FSU (2019 and 2020), Michigan State (2022 and 2023), Oregon State (2022 and 2023), Okie St. (2018 and 2021), etc. They did a one off away game at UGA (but wasn't that a neutral site CFA kickoff game?), and had a one off home against Ole Miss and Virginia Tech (maybe there was an away game buried way back in their schedule though). There was one game at Michigan State in 2012, so it's possible that was part of the 2022 and 2023 series, but I doubt it. Either way, Boise State has been and is doing the same thing we're trying to do. One for one series that enable us to keep the financial spreadsheet in the black.
Agreed. But we’ve also positioned ourselves better with a huge emphasis on facilities, non football sports, and paying P5-ish dollars for coaches. Unfortunately those things aren’t free. Giving up too many home games prevents us from being able to pay the bills.
Trying to understand how Brian Kelly won COY. When they get slaughtered by the first decent team they play in the playoff will everyone be wowed? There are a lot of coaches I'd pick over him this year.
What Leach has been able to do in Pullman WA cannot be understated. Convincing kids to come to the middle of no where Washington to play football in front of crowds of 33k has to be near impossible
I'd give it to Bill Clark. Resurrecting a program and turning them into 10 game winners is incredible.
Was gonna chime in on this. Anyone who thinks Boise ever had an “anyone anywhere” philosophy is dreaming.
He's not going out getting kids that other good PAC 12 teams want, he's getting the tier below that and does a great job at both developing them as well as creating a system that is unique (offense and defensively) which makes it tough for opponents to plan for. Shit they only have 3 4* on their roster and just went 10-2 in the power 5.
Well I did mean he is doing great when you consider where he is recruiting too. He will never be able to convince those blue chip recruits to come to Pullman instead of LA or SF. The fact that he can convince the kids he does get is great job. Im assuming you’ve probably been to Pullman at some point and know what I mean but for the people that have never been there, when I say that it is in the middle of nowhere I give it too much credit. It is not close to a fucking thing
I think if you had managed to beat UF, especially if it was convincing, you would have at least had a quality win. Would have at least been in the discussion but you're probably right. Would have been hard to get passed a one or even 2 loss blue blood program.
Bill Connelly plugged it into his S&P+ stuff. Hardly made a difference. The system just isn't designed with the idea that a g5 wins 25 games in a row. That'll change soon enough w/ 8 and a g5 auto though.
I think Full Strength Milton comes back in 2020 and makes Fields transfer again maybe to a school with less depth.
Too much depth now unfortunately. He is probably scared off now after seeing super human Milton standing already and now we got the record breaking Hawaiian enrolling in January.
It's a weird position to be in now at UCF. We have a guy like Justin Fields express interest in coming and we have to tell him that we are pretty full at the position. Maybe he will walk on like Mayfield at Oklahoma.
I mean he can come compete for the job. If he's looking for a place that just hands it to him this aint it.