Amazon HQ2 Thread

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  1. High Cotton

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    There will certainly be growing pains but landing HQ2 is a huge net win.
     
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  2. aspenbuff

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    Yeah but are they ever gonna dredge the canal?
     
  3. chet fire

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  4. Corch

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    He's almost equally annoying on The Deuce
     
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  5. POWESHOW

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    An absolute shit ton, that’s how product gets to the US.
     
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  6. The Banks

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    What percentage comes through the Atlantic versus the pacific?
     
  7. POWESHOW

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    No idea. Clearly the Pacific would be #1 but shipping containers are an absolutely massive amount of amazon business.
     
  8. Nelson

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    Long Beach is the #1 American port for a reason
     
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  9. Fran Tarkenton

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    not the San Pedro port of Los Angeles?
     
  10. LuPoor

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    That's basically in Long Beach
     
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  11. Where Eagles Dare

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    But it's considered a completely different port
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  12. LuPoor

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    No shit? Figured they were both referencing the same place
     
  13. Where Eagles Dare

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    I don't know if you're fucking with me or not, but LA and Long Beach are two separate ports, both are the #1 and #2 ports in the US
     
  14. Fran Tarkenton

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    ah I was always under the impression there were 2 entirely separate Ports, Port Authorities in LA.
     
  15. bwi2

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    Long Beach is a separate port. It's second to San Pedro for container traffic. But either way this is a headquarters building, not a distribution facility.
     
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  16. The Banks

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    Together making up over 1/4 of all container traffic.
     
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  17. Nelson

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    Sorry guys was just using Long Beach in a regional sense. Used to work for Customs and Border Protection and that unit covers both of those ports but just named them “Long Beach” collectively for administrative reasons
     
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  19. High Cotton

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  21. Goose

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    They have another 25 or so opening this year and next.

    Everyone is bending over backwards for a piece of that money train

    2 smaller DCs planned for India next year too
     
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  22. steamengine

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    Not the no. 1 port for export tonnage. :texassmug:
     
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  23. herb.burdette

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    Amazon just signed a lease to take over the former headquarters of defunct airline Comair at Cincinnati's CVG airport. The six story building has 184,000 square feet of office space. They occupy by March 1.

    It's only a two year deal with five, single year options to renew as Amazon continues developing their global air hub in Cincinnati.

    As discussed earlier in the thread, Amazon is investing $1.4-1.7 billion at CVG to make it Amazon's global air hub. They will build out former Terminals 1 and 2 as their own, leaving Terminal 3 for passenger flights. Amazon signed a 900 acre, 50 year lease in April 2017 for that space.

    Amazon also signed a 300,000 square foot lease in Manhattan this month, which will be the location of their sales/advertising division.
     
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  24. herb.burdette

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    238 cities submitted bids by the deadline last week.
     
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  25. The Banks

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    Where does Houston rank worldwide?
     
  26. steamengine

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    I dunno. Probably like 347 behind 346 Chinese cities.
     
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  27. LuPoor

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    I hope the mayor mentioned to Amazon that Tulsa has a MAJOR shipping port. They can be in the Gulf of Mexico in only 10 days.
     
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  28. pockets

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    Houston not even #1 on the gulf coast in total tonnage. :mulletsmug:
     
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  29. The Banks

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    Hence why he specified exports.
     
  30. Larry Sura

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    ATL second busiest port on east coast, and it’s being dredged. :smug:
     
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  31. steamengine

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    The Alabama professor I heard speak the other day would certainly disagree with you.
    :smug: :smug:
     
  32. pockets

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    Statistically it is still not, but it's not going to be long before South Louisiana is taken over. Houston has taken everything else from the area, might as well keep it going.

    Either way, those ports are just enormous. South Louisiana doesnt include New Orleans, Plaquemines, and Baton Rouge, which it is basically connected to. And Houstonstill has Beaumont, Port Arthur, and Texas City in the area.
     
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  33. CoastalOrange

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    Explain this to me like I'm 5. CVG is leaving only 1 terminal for passenger flights? With the idea of bringing in so much Amazon business, and I'm thinking that means workers as well, wouldn't they need/want more than just 1 passenger terminal?
     
  34. Goose

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    We only use terminal 3 for passengers. It has 2 concourses. One for delta and the other for everyone else

    Cue the Delta buying northwest airlines and moving our hub story by herb.burdette
     
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  35. herb.burdette

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    Prior to the Delta/Northwest merger, CVG was Delta's second-busiest hub and Delta operated Comair out of CVG. After the merger, Delta shifted traffic through Detroit and Minneapolis as hubs.

    This left CVG with two useless terminals because Delta still had 90% of traffic at CVG and killed any airline who tried to compete.

    Terminal 1 and 2 were bulldozed. Now Amazon has a 900 acre lease for 50 years on that land signed in April. Amazon just took over the six story former Comair headquarters in a lease last week.

    Amazon is using CVG as its global air hub, from which Amazon intends to build its own fleet. To the extent that Amazon outstrips that growth, CVG has partnered with Dayton International and a former DHL hub in Wilmington Ohio, so Amazon essentially has unlimited air ground space at three sites with 50 miles of each other.
     
  36. herb.burdette

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    The Cincinnati proposal last week isn't going to get outbid on tax incentives. Not sure if you saw the reports, but they offered up to $70 million a year for a lifetime of over $1 billion in incentives.

    They pitched two sites, Riverfront property at the Banks or across in Newport. Apparently, GE Logistics supported the proposal as creating more logistics synergy in Cincy.

    For those not familiar with Cincinnati, it landed General Electric's Global Operations Center in 2014, which is now located in a new building in the same Riverfront area they are pitching to Amazon. It's GE's North American division for supply chain management.
     
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  37. Fran Tarkenton

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    is Cincinatti getting HQ2 or is this in relation to large shipping ports?
     
  38. Larry Sura

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    New Jersey offered over 7 billion in tax incentives. Doesn’t matter. It’s the A’s.

    If this post is about amazon.
     
  39. Goose

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    GE is already offshoring a bunch of jobs they placed there

    A guy I went to high school with has to train his replacement in India
     
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  40. herb.burdette

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    It's independent of HQ2. Amazon committed to build out its global air hub in January. We're getting the $1.4 billion hub regardless of where HQ2 goes.

    It's led to a lot of regional speculation, and absolutely no national speculation about HQ2.

    Every city thinks they have a shot. Cincinnati is a little unique because Amazon already is making its biggest non-HQ2 investment here.
     
  41. Fran Tarkenton

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    I'd be surprised if there aren't several bids with tax incentive packages that exceed $1 billion

    Philly is reportedly at $2b
    http://www.philly.com/philly/busine...for-amazons-second-headquarters-20171019.html

    Chicago is somewhere between $1.6 to 2b

    New Jersey at $7b
    http://www.philly.com/philly/busine...id-in-likely-setback-for-camden-20171016.html

    and the checklist for GE's Global Ops Center =//= same credentials Amazon seeks for HQ2, no?
     
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  42. herb.burdette

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    They have four global operations hubs. This is their North American hub. They're always going to move things around, but they've already relocated a ton of folks who aren't going anywhere.
     
  43. herb.burdette

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    That $1 billion is just the city and its development arm. My understanding is that Ohio and Kentucky will commit addional money.
     
  44. steamengine

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    I think the problem here is decision makers traditionally like to keep corporate and operations headquarters separate.
     
  45. fsugrad99

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    Look the future: Tulsa

    Global warming will turn it into a port by the mid 30s
     
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  46. leroi

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    why, will it make my rent go down?
     
  47. herb.burdette

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    Yes, but I don't think anyone really expects HQ2 to replace Seattle. The only way this makes sense for Cincinnati is if Amazon intends HQ2 to be a logistics, consumer marketing, and online grocery HQ.

    Otherwise, no chance.
     
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    by weight, most cargo comes/goes via Louisiana, Texas and the Gulf Coast.

    but sometimes ppl use other metrics like $ value or by TEU and I think the west coast is the biggest if you do it that way.
     
  49. The Banks

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    What imports are coming through the Atlantic that are so heavy to make up the huge difference in TEU?