***Bundesliga Thread***

Discussion in 'Soccer Board' started by snowfx2, Aug 16, 2010.

  1. snowfx2

    snowfx2 Mora

    The teams and stadiums of the BL (by finish in the '10-'11 standings):


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    Borussia Dortmund - Westfalenstadion (81,264)

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    FC Bayer 04 - Bay Arena (30,210)

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    FC Bayern - Allianz Arena (69,000)

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    Hannover 96 - AWD Arena (49,000)

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    FSV Mainz 05 - Coface Arena (33,500 and opens following season)

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    FC Nurnberg - Frankenstadion (45,000)

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    FC Kaiserslauten - Fritz Walter Stadion (48,500)

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    HSV Hamburg - Imtech Arena (57,000)

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    SC Freiburg - Badenova Stadium (25,000)

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    FC Koln - Rhein Energie Stadion (51,000)

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    TSG 1899 Hoffenheim - Rhein-Neckar Arena (30,164)

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    VFB Stuttgart - Mercedes Benz Arena (60,000)

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    Werder Bremen - Weserstadion (42,000)

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    Schalke 04 - Veltins Arena (61,027)

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    VfL Wolfsburg - Volkswagen Arena (30,122)

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    Borussia Monchengladbach - Borussia Park (53,000)

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    Hertha Berlin - Olympic Stadion (73,000)

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    Augsburg - Impuls Arena (30,000)

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  2. Rabdoid

    Rabdoid New Member

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    BERLIN (AFP) - German international midfielder Michael Ballack's woes know no end as it was revealed on Sunday he has been dethroned as the most marketable German player according to Wirtschaftswoche magazine.

    The 33-year-old - who is in danger of being permanently replaced as German captain after missing the World Cup through injury - is ranked only the 11th most marketable player in German football according to consultancy firm Batten & Company.

    Ballack - who has moved to one of his former clubs Bayer Leverkusen after being released by English Premier League champions Chelsea - has been replaced as the king of German football by his former Bayern Munich team-mate Bastian Schweinsteigger.

    Batten and Company estimate that Schweinsteigger's potential earnings per year in commercial and sponsorships is 20.7million euros ahead of Bayern team-mates Dutch star winger Arjen Robben (17.5million euros) and French playmaker Franck Ribery (15.8million euros).

    Ballack is rated with a value of 8.1million euros and in a sign of the changing fortunes of German football has been surpassed by young talents Mesut Ozil (12.2million euros) and Thomas Mueller (10.9million euros).
  3. ochosissoko

    ochosissoko cradle of fuckin civilization

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    Those stadiums are awesome
  4. Hoosier

    Hoosier New Member

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    I'm getting into the Bundisliga this year finally and have always been a fan of Bayern. What is the best way to watch games?
  5. Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    need indoor pic of Werder please
  6. cas

    cas Jabooty Football

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

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  7. snowfx2

    snowfx2 Mora

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    GolTV, streams, and espn3.com will be showing games too.
  8. Rabdoid

    Rabdoid New Member

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    :rain:


    Hoosier the best way to watch Bundesliga games is probably through ESPN3.com if you don't get GolTV. I'd imagine the signal is pretty strong there and they cover at least one (usually two) Bundesliga games a week. You can also check this board and we'll have the games listed and links to watch the important ones through your web browser. We use sites like http://myp2p.eu/index.php?part=sports and http://atdhe.net/watchtv.html to find the streams. For example, there are several links on the myp2p site for this afternoon's 2PM kickoff, so you can go there and we'll probably have one posted here as well.
  9. snowfx2

    snowfx2 Mora

  10. snowfx2

    snowfx2 Mora

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    The phasing out of Ballack is just not going to go smoothly, mainly on Ballack's end. It seems like he thinks he can still start for the 2014 WC, let alone Euro 2012.
  11. Rabdoid

    Rabdoid New Member

  12. Owsley

    Owsley My friends call me Bear.

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    Hell yeah.

    I've never followed the Bundesliga that closely but I'm going to make an effort this year. I had a long running manager mode with Bremen on Fifa 09 so I guess they're my team. Really looking forward to watching some games on espn3.
  13. cas

    cas Jabooty Football

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    give khedira two years under tso and i bet he'll be at least 35 year old ballack's equal
  14. Owsley

    Owsley My friends call me Bear.

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    Is Ballack the last east German on the national team?
  15. cas

    cas Jabooty Football

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    toni kroos is from east germany and he's 20 and a prodigy so east germany will continue to have a rep for at least the next 5-10 years id say

    then no mas
  16. Handcuffed

    Handcuffed 'Fan of' section goes here

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    i lost pretty hard at bayer's emblem
  17. Handcuffed

    Handcuffed 'Fan of' section goes here

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    and damn, hertha was relegated. berlin not having a first league team...wow.
  18. Rabdoid

    Rabdoid New Member

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    there are a bunch of smaller teams in Berlin that have nearly as much support as Hertha (which ain't a whole lot really, but enough). Berlin is kind of like NYC in that each section has its own vibe and not surprisingly its own soccer team. for example I lived in an area referred to as Charlottenburg (for the palace nearby) and everyone in that area supported a team called Tennis Borussia Berlin. they have a small stadium that seats a few thousand and play in the 3rd division (have since fallen to 4th or 5th). but the point is, with all the Berliners split up in such fashion, it is difficult for Hertha to have a bunch of hardcore fans, and they were run like shite which got them relegated.
  19. Handcuffed

    Handcuffed 'Fan of' section goes here

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    hey i know that area... i lived off of the zehlendorf s-bahn stop for a bit.
  20. Rabdoid

    Rabdoid New Member

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    word, passed through there on my way to Potsdam many a time. nice location.
  21. Hoosier

    Hoosier New Member

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    Seriously considering making Bayern my team. I have always liked German football and frankly, the fan support of these clubs is as good or better than the EPL. Top to bottom, its probably a better league too. May also be spending some time in Munich this coming Spring so I'm excited about that
  22. ChileanNole

    ChileanNole New Member

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    When I see the stadiums I am just amazed at the German engineering and efficiency.
  23. snowfx2

    snowfx2 Mora

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    Last year's attendance

    Borussia Dortmund - 76,656
    Bayern Munich - 69,000
    Schalke - 61,259
    Hamburg - 55,240
    Koln - 48,576
    Eintracht Frankfurt - 47,211
    Hertha Berlin - 46,680 (Relegated)
    Borussia Monchengladbach - 46,203
    Nurnberg - 42,234
    Stuttgart - 41,064 (smaller capacity during construction)
    Hannover - 38,247
    Werder Bremen - 35,810 (see Stuttgart)
    Hoffenheim - 29,761
    Bayer Leverkusen - 29,220
    Wolfsburg - 28,948
    Bochum - 24,601
    Freiburg - 22,976
    Mainz - 20,255

    Kaiserslauten - 34,974
    St. Pauli - 20,826
  24. snowfx2

    snowfx2 Mora

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    Quick summary of the Bundesliga ownership rules and finances:

    - All clubs must be owned by at least 51% of the clubs members (supporters), only allowed 49% ownership from the private sector.

    - The private ownership has to come from within Germany, no foreign investors.

    - Bayer Leverkusen and Wolfsburg are exempt from these rules because these teams were founded and soley owned by Bayer and Volkswagen long before the rules were in place.

    - The DFL regulates the finances of all clubs, controls the levels of debt that each club should have, and imposes restrictions on the amount of money clubs can spend of player’s wages. Obviously by a club-by-club basis.
  25. cas

    cas Jabooty Football

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    they also ensure every club runs the same style youth system and maintains the same general structure from their first team through third team

    on another note, if mesut ozil doesn't get transferred tomorrow i bet its a lock he stays at werder for 2010. his big thing is the champs league and werder starts their season for that on wednesday. i can't see him missing the entire cl season being cup tied to werder.

    good for the league and good for him. its going to be an awesome season with what werder has, bayern has, schalke has, and leverkusen with ballack et al. then you add an improved hamburger, dortmund, etc. gonna be fun to watch.

    wish i had goltv in hd
  26. NittanyKnight

    NittanyKnight This isnt a miracle. Its based on hard work

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    this makes too much sense. :blowup:
  27. ochosissoko

    ochosissoko cradle of fuckin civilization

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    Why every FA doesn't do this baffles me.
  28. cas

    cas Jabooty Football

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    italians and spaniards and the french are too stupid and or lazy

    the english cannot succumb to doing something that the germans have already done
  29. snowfx2

    snowfx2 Mora

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    I think with getting Euro 2016 and a bunch of new or remodeled stadiums, Ligue 1 has a chance to take a good step in quality the next 5 years, if they become proactive about it. How PSG is not an enormous club has always blown my mind.
  30. cas

    cas Jabooty Football

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    its gonna be really interesting to see what france does with regards to its domestic league and fff and how they relate leading up to and in the wake of euro 2016

    i dont think their current model of mass importation from any french speaking former colony is sustainable; we saw this past world cup that if you remove zidane, they're basically mercenaries playing for their own cause and that shit doesnt work

    france is huge and has a big population. it has a lot of in country talent and is a hot bed for immigrants that are also talented. no reason they shouldnt be at least as competitive with spain if not join germany and italy as top 3 dogs
  31. Hoosier

    Hoosier New Member

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    PSG is basically Ajax, only worse. Not as successful, but in a major international city and traditionally a feeder of young talent to bigger clubs
  32. snowfx2

    snowfx2 Mora

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    This weekend's games:

    Friday

    Bayern Munich vs. Wolfsburg

    Saturday

    Hoffenheim vs. Werder Bremen
    Borussia Monchengladbach vs. Nurnberg
    Freiburg vs. St. Pauli
    Hannover vs. Eintracht Frankfurt
    Koln vs. Kaiserslauten
    Hamburg vs. Schalke

    Sunday

    Mainz vs. Stuttgart
    Borussia Dortmund vs. Bayer Leverkusen
  33. cas

    cas Jabooty Football

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    niiice
  34. Rabdoid

    Rabdoid New Member

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    will be at Carowinds taking our kids on a field trip Friday. :facepalm:

    need advice on best way to follow game from iPhone...?
  35. cas

    cas Jabooty Football

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    espn3 has a mobile tv thing remember

    espn mobile
  36. broXcore

    broXcore headphone bleed make the shit sound real

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    i've decided that i like werder bremen
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  37. snowfx2

    snowfx2 Mora

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    They looked pretty damn strong against Sampdoria just a day after the Ozil thing went down, and Marko Marin only played like the final 5 minutes.
  38. broXcore

    broXcore headphone bleed make the shit sound real

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    i had no idea he didnt play many minutes

    i know they have mertesacker and marin obviously, but i havent really taken the time to look into them

    definitely will start to follow them now though
  39. cas

    cas Jabooty Football

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    maybe felix kroos will play more of a reserved role now that ozil is gone
  40. Rabdoid

    Rabdoid New Member

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    don't see any kind of app for that. do you run it through safari? the live stream would have to be coded in quicktime for it to work on an iPhone, i think at least.
  41. buffbagwell

    buffbagwell New Member

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    I decided that this summer. I'm digging my first year as a Werder Bremen supporter, looked real good in the Champions League.
  42. snowfx2

    snowfx2 Mora

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    Wolfsburg's strikers are sick: Dzeko, Grafite, and Mandzukic (new signing that scored 59 goals the last 3 seasons with Dinamo Zagreb).
  43. cas

    cas Jabooty Football

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    wolfsburg aka bosnian national team
  44. snowfx2

    snowfx2 Mora

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    I gotta imagine Steve McClaren is pretty smug these days in regards to his haters in England.
  45. Hoosier

    Hoosier New Member

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    Any stream for the game?
  46. snowfx2

    snowfx2 Mora

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    espn3.com
    atdhe.net
  47. Gunners

    Gunners Minding the gap

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    I hate rooting against Bayern but love Wolfsburg. My 2nd favorite team in the world. Bayern probably my 3rd.

    See if Wolfsburg got that midfield figured out because it sucked last year. Strikers are great but get crap service and the defense sucked last year too.

    Should be pretty good though with Kjaer and Friedrich added.
  48. snowfx2

    snowfx2 Mora

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    Cicero Santos is a good addition as well for Wolfsburg, he's starting ahead of Misimovic in this game.
  49. cas

    cas Jabooty Football

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    gonna need a stream
  50. cas

    cas Jabooty Football

    Re: '10-'11 Bundesliga Thread

    kroos and muller and schweinsteiger all starting :D

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