we all knew an athlete would fuck up on twitter today. Enter Josh Robinson. http://deadspin.com/vikings-cb-same...source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow Josh Robinson ✔@JROB_2one Love is love? So what will we say when the 30yr old loves YOUR 10 year old. When the dad loves HIS 6 year old? It's different?? Yea okay!
Its just one of those days you dont speak if you have an opposing view for anyone. Civilian you either get railed on by facebook friends or huffington post adds your tweet to an article bashing opposing views, celebrities end up getting all sorts of stories written about them where theyll have to apologize. Just shut up and complain about it in private.
Dennis Dodd really doesn't like George. The inclusion of the fake GOL tweet makes it even funnier. http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...ry-keeps-being-rewarded-falling-upward-at-UCF
Fuck Dennis Dodd. What does he mean by "at a place like UCF, doesn't there need to be more oversight?" That doesn't even make sense, what exactly is "a place like UCF"? A winning program despite not being in the Power 5? Yep,m obviosuly we are cheating and stealing, no one can succeed unless they are elite. So fucking sick of the decaying remnants of what used to be college football, if I didn't love UCF so much I would walk the fuck away and never look back.
Tacko Fall hitting 3s like free throws. (but not like UCF free throws...which are terrible) https://twitter.com/UCF_MBB/status/615971515792781312
I actually feel like it could happen this time, not saying it is going to happen this year, but in the next two or three years I believe it will. If the B12 gets left out of the playoff again next year it will hurry up the process, but short of them getting the NCAA to allow a champ game with 10 teams, they pretty much have to do it. I thought this was a really interesting article about it, things I hadn't considered before (I know its Clay Travis, but the reasoning is sound) http://www.foxsports.com/college-fo...erage/the-big-12-should-go-to-14-teams-070115 Spoiler The Big 12 Should Go To 14 Teams 11:42a ET Posted by Clay Travis SHARE 74 TWEET 108 Last week Oklahoma president David Boren set pageviews exploding by saying that he was in favor of Big 12 expansion. Boren also said that any expansion teams would receive equal shares of the Big 12's television payout from ESPN and Fox. (The equal share of existing television revenue in the event of expansion hadn't been public before.) There's nothing better to cure the summer doldrums in college football than a little fevered expansion talk. The Big 12, the most unstable force in college football, is always the source of expansion rumors. The SEC and Big Ten, with their networks rolling off tens of millions of dollars, are totally stable and the Pac 12 and the ACC are fairly stable as well. But the Big 12 is still wobbly. Will that ever change? Well, I've got a bit of a radical idea of what the conference should do to increase stability -- the Big 12 should expand to 14 teams and start its own network. Let me explain why beginning with the most fundamental rule of conference expansion. 1. No conference is expanding unless there is more money to be gained by all the current members of that conference. This is the fundamental rule of conference expansion and it should govern every thought you ever have about realignment. The easiest way to think about it is this -- no one's slice of the pie is going to get smaller. The only reason to expand is to get more money. In the latest round of expansion every moving team ended up making more money than it would have by staying put. That's no coincidence. Ultimately expansion is a business decision. And business decisions in college athletics end up being about making more money. That's why I don't believe the Big 12 will simply expand to 12 teams, the other ten schools in the Big 12 don't stand to benefit enough from this expansion. While the ESPN and Fox television money won't change, every school's share of the playoff money would diminish in the event of expansion. Adding a Big 12 title game wouldn't come close to making up for that loss in revenue. Sure, the Big 12 could expand to 12 teams and pay out less money to new members, but why does that really make sense? A round robin scheduling format where everyone plays everyone else almost got the conference two teams in the inaugural playoff. (While some argue that not having a conference title game cost the Big 12 a bid, not having a conference title game also almost got the Big 12 two bids. If Ohio State loses to Wisconsin andMissouri upsets Alabama then the Big 12 would have gotten both Baylor and TCU in the playoff). No, there has to be some greater logic to the expansion talk and going to 12 teams just doesn't make much sense. Which brings me to the Big 12 Network. 2. The only way the Big 12 expands is if a Big 12 Network happens. In order for a Big 12 Network to happen, Texas would probably have to give up the Longhorn Network and roll the LHN into a Big 12 Network. That, in essence, I believe, is the root of Oklahoma's grumbling. The Longhorn Network, despite what ESPN would have you believe, is an unmitigated disaster. It created a situation where Texas is on unequal ground with all the other Big 12 conference members. And while the LHN will eventually toss off $15 million a year to Texas before expenses -- right now it probably adds around $9 million a year -- it costs the Big 12 hundreds of millions of dollars over the life of its existence. How so? Because it effectively kills the potential for a Big 12 Network. (It's hard to see a world where the Longhorn Network exists and the Big 12 Network exists too. Maybe someone smarter than me can figure out how, but I don't see it.) And that's the root of Oklahoma's gripe. The Sooners see the SEC and the Big Ten rolling in buckets of cash from their conference networks and wonder why in the world Texas has cut off that potential oil well for the Big 12. Right now the Big 12 doesn't have many assets when it comes to a network. It has four teams in Texas, two in Oklahoma, two in Kansas, one in West Virginia and one in Iowa. That's an awful conference television network footprint. Oklahoma has just 3.9 million people, Iowa has 3.1 million, Kansas has 2.9 million, and West Virginia has 1.85 million. Sure, the state of Texas has 27 million people, but you have to divide that by four teams. The end result is that right now the Big 12 states would have right at 39 million in total population. This would mean that roughly 13 million cable and satellite subscribers live in the Big 12's footprint. So what's that worth? Let's say the Big 12 Network could get $1 per month in those states. That adds up to $156 million in the Big 12 footprint. Let's give the Big 12 Network an additional $70 million a year in revenue nationwide -- .10 cents a month to roughly 60 million cable and satellite households -- to get you to $226 million. (I'm not factoring in advertising dollars which have been minimal for conference networks so far). Figure that's going to be cut in half with a TV partner -- either ESPN or Fox -- and take out operating expenses of 25% of revenue and you're talking about roughly $8.5 million per school assuming everything went absolutely perfectly. Which it wouldn't, but let's assume the best. But the problem is you'd probably have to guarantee Texas an unequal share of the revenue since they'd be giving up the LHN in the process. (The only way to get Texas to give up the LHN is by giving Texas more money than it makes off the LHN. See rule number one above). So let's say Texas gets its guarantee of $15 million a year -- more than twice what everyone else gets and more than its actually netting from the LHN now -- and you're left with roughly $7 million per school if everything goes perfectly. That's fine, but there isn't much room for error. 3. That's why the Big 12 should expand to 14 schools. The only reason expansion makes financial sense is if the Big 12 is going to do a network. And if it were to expand, the only states that would make sense to expand to are states that don't presently have a Big 12 team. Having two teams in the same state isn't ideal when it comes to creating your own network because the cable subscriptions for new markets is at least six times more per month if you have a team in the state. (The SEC Network for instance costs .25 cents a month if you are outside an SEC state, $1.40 a month if you are inside an SEC state. So a subscriber in each additional SEC state adds $13.80 per cable or satellite subscriber a year. This is why the SEC will NEVER, EVER add an additional team inside a state that it already has a team inside. It already has that state's money.) This means the Big 12 would face an interesting expansion decision. It could add two teams to get to 12 or it could get really bold and make the leap to 14 teams. The move to 14 makes the most sense. Let me explain. There are five real expansion targets that the Big 12 should consider as part of its network: Cincinnati, CentralFlorida or South Florida, BYU and Memphis. (Boise State makes no sense because the money isn't substantial. Connecticut might, but it's a long way away geographically. No existing school will leave one of the four major conferences for the Big 12. There just aren't teams that make sense to add after 14 members). First, Cincinnati is a no brainer. The state of Ohio has 11.6 million people and is football crazy. The Bearcat brand is significant enough to drive interest in the state and you get a natural rivalry with West Virginia. Assuming you could get full distribution in Ohio for the Big 12 Network, adding a team in Ohio would add roughly $46 million in additional revenue. Second, adding South Florida or Central Florida seems like a no brainer because there are twenty million people in the state of Florida. But the question is, could you get full cable or satellite distribution in Florida with either of these two teams? That is, do fans care enough to demand that their cable or satellite service carry the Big 12 network if you add USF or UCF? (Remember, this has been the Pac 12's problem with its network. Fans just don't care enough.) That's a roll of the dice. In an ideal scenario you'd figure out which team is likely to be better going forward and which team has the most rabid fan base and then you'd pick that team to add to the Big 12. (Remember, two teams in the same state doesn't make sense in a conference network era). But does either school really move the needle by itself? The state of Florida is worth roughly $80 million a year if you could get a team fully distributed in the Sunshine State. Which is why the really interesting play would be adding both schools at once. You get a natural rivalry and double the pressure for cable and satellite companies in the state to carry your network. But if you wanted to maximize revenue, you'd roll the dice on one team. Memphis is the next best addition. Yes, really. The state of Tennessee has 6.6 million people, is football crazy, and sits in the fertile SEC footprint. The Big 12 could plant a flag on SEC soil and add roughly $26.4 million a year in revenue if it added a team here. (This assumes full distribution of the network. Is there enough demand in the state? I think so.) BYU would be my fifth choice, the team I'd add if I thought we could get away with adding only one team in Florida. BYU is intriguing as a "national brand," but the problem with national brands is they don't make a lot of sense in a cable and satellite network era when you need a rabid following in a condensed geographic core. There are only 3 million people in Utah, but that would add $12 million to the Big 12 coffers. So if everything went perfect for the Big 12 you could add teams in Ohio, Tennessee, Florida, and Utah and get to 14 members. That would add $164 million in total revenue. Combined with the existing $156 million, you're talking about $320 million in total revenue and a doubling of the Big 12's geographic footprint from a population of 39 million to over 80 million. Toss in the out of footprint subscription revenue of $48 million and you're talking about over $10 million additional TV money per team per year just off the Big 12 Network. If all four of these expansion teams paid a small share of their revenue to Texas each year, then the Longhornswould make more money than they do off the Longhorn Network, the Big 12 would have newfound stability, and the conference's geographic footprint would more than double. Sure, expanding to 14 teams is bold and there's always the potential of major distribution battles that could tie up the Big 12 Network, making it more difficult for fans to see the games. And you'd have to choose a partner between Fox and ESPN and figure out how to balance out the games that would air on the new network, but this is also a really smart play that solidifies the conference's future, puts every team on a relatively equal footing, and eliminates the drag of the Longhorn Network on the Big 12's future. Honestly, this makes too much sense not to happen. But since it's the Big 12, the most dysfunctional major conference in the country, it probably won't. Which is a shame, because it should.
Something is happening. I'm of the mindset that OU and 3-4 other schools want to add teams. They couldn't get the votes so they are now using the media. Complete silence about expansion and then: whispers from UCF Hometown Huddle WVU AD OU president Bowlsby says about a third are pro expansion but it's leaked that that number is closer to half. Now i think OU and co. are using the idea that the big xii will disintegrate to scare the TTUs TCUs and BUs into thinking "oh shit, maybe we won't have a landing spot if this happens" The Big 12 is 2 or 3 votes from expanding and Oklahoma has their mind set on it. Thats as close as we've ever been IMO.
i mean this is a forgone conclusion anyways, but i'm surprised to see brandon post this so matter-of-factly in the middle of a thread without reporting it as bigger news. "Yeah, GOL said that on the radio the other day. Around November, expect GOL to be named permanent AD and Brent Key officially promoted as coach-in-waiting, effective as soon as the season is over. He'd start recruiting as the head coach. Basically a done deal."
I think they key factor is, can the rest of the conference convince Texas and ESPN to roll the Longhorn Network into a Big 12 Network. The LN has been a major point of contention among the Big 12 schools and is effectively preventing a Big 12 network. If they can work that out, they will want to add eyeballs more than anything, so our TV market comes into play big time in that case. If they only decide to go to 12, I think they go with BYU (big following) and us (TV market, east coast conference partner for WVU, recruiting). If they are smart, they go to 14, adding BYU, Cincinatti, UCF and either USF or Memphis (USF probably wins because Tampa is a much bigger TV market and would give them at least a week every year in Florida). Obviously common sense plays little part, but I see no reason why they would add a team like Houston or SMU or Colorado State, it gets them nothing in extra eyeballs (they already own those markets) and nothing in recruiting. Not sure if they are smart enough to understand it, but the SEC is already invading Texas, the Big 12 needs to be proactive now and strike back with teams in SEC/ACC country.
Doesn't BYU have their own network also which was the reason they did t join the big12 last the last round? They didn't want to get rid of their network like Texas?
It was mostly that they didn't want to have to share revenue from the network. I think if everyone could agree to roll all independent networks into one Big12 Network it would all work out and everyone would make a pile of cash. If they can figure it out is the big question.
I highly doubt byu would have lwt their network be a hold up for getting into a p5 conference. If the network was an issue it was likely due to contracts rather than byu not wanting to give it up. And Texas still at the time was allowed their own network so i dont see why byu when initially vetted wouldnt have been able to join with one too. I always thought it boiled down to the big xii not wanting them due to conflict of religion, travel, etc.
Not hard. This stuff has gotten so old (going bsck to big east days) that I just tune it all out unless something actually happens. I can't handle realignment speculation whatsoever.
Anyone have this creep? http://www.wesh.com/news/ucf-film-professor-arrested-in-child-sex-sting-deputies-say/33970540
Just saw tako in the chick fil a on campus chatting up a couple girls that were barely taller then his waist. He looks skinner to me then he does compared to mcbride in that picture.
I like this hire. Guy posts in the dungeon under UCF_Video and has always seemed intelligent and invested in the program.
i love how any time something like this happens the dungeon immediately goes into parenting mode. they're probably right but there are no facts yet and they're all just like "he needs to find better friends to hang around and not put him in these situations..." fuckin white people.
Pretty bad. Along with the "can someone translate that tweet for me" crowd. They legitimately think our players are choir boys. This thread has been really dead lately.
Thinly veiled imo. Happy late birthday man. I definitely saw it on my phone and said I would post something witty later but then just didn't.
it's a hookah lounge on alafaya next to waterford lakes neighborhood. i went there a few times back in college, was alright when it first opened but got a bit shadier i noticed throughout the years. thank you sir. i miss them all the time on facebook. is what it is, i have no ill will towards anyone if they forget. i'm 28, who gives a crap at this point.
Is it because of the shooting? I'm out of the loop. At least he will get a medical redshirt so we can get another year of him at (hopefully) the height of his talent.
We got a starting saftey from iowa state as a grad transfer. He's got 2 years left. This is much needed
Few things make me more than overreaching sports leadership. @osknights: "Our goal is to be in the in the Power 5 conversation as the 6th power conference." Says he believes the @American_FB already is. - Aresco
Make it stop... @Danny_Morales_ 21m21 minutes ago Bob Diaco says he wouldn't mind calling the rivalry game with UCF being called The ConFLiCT. #AmericanKickoff #UCF #UConn However.. @Danny_Morales_ 20m20 minutes ago O'Leary jokes that Diaco better be bringing the trophy to Orlando when the two teams meet this season. #UCF #AmericanKickoff I hope by that, GOL means we can take it in order to destroy it. They should 'accidentally' leave it outside and so it 'accidentally' gets stolen and 'accidentally' gets thrown into Lake Claire.
Somehow a player got shot and there was more realignment talk and it was still really boring. Has USF done anything embarrassing lately?
I think it will really only go downhill until we are in a different conference. Our best case every season is to get in the access bowl but short of that and it's Miami or St. Pete or some other shitty bowl. Basketball has a chance to be mildly interesting this year.