*Chelsea-*-- We’re Champions of Europe, You'll Never Sing That

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  1. RavenNole

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    We are about to hire a manager (granted on a caretaker basis) that was not able to get holland qualified to a 24 team European championship and we just fired the best manager in club history who has 3 league titles for us and 2 champions league titles. Just not sure we are going to attract the quality of manager that a team like Chelsea should unless Roman rips off the purse strings which he has seemed hesitant to do since mourinho arrived
     
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  3. JonathanCoachman

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    Would be risky for both sides. I think he's got a pretty sweet gig at the moment, being at a huge club that seems like it will be patient with him. And Chelsea probably want to see how he does balancing league play with The Champions League instead of Europa.
     
  4. allothersnsused

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    Simeone sounds like the top choice. What's his style? I don't watch much outside of EPL but obviously know about Atletico's recent success.
     
  5. RavenNole

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    If you type in cesc fabregas on Twitter the second search suggestion after just his name is cesc fabregas snake.
     
  6. JonathanCoachman

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    I thought he being one of three players to post some kind of farewell on social media was rather odd. And Kurt Zouma's wife doing one and then deleting it is very strange. From the outside looking in, it appears that things at Chelsea right now are too political.
     
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  7. Pac_Lion

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    Cesc and Costa booed. Willian applauded
     
  8. MODEVIL

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    Stand up for the special one

    Of course they scored early btw
     
  9. jkun

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    Frustrating to see us finally come out with some urgency and lol at ivanovic being the one to score
     
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  10. MODEVIL

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    And 2. Damn we are good.
     
  11. MODEVIL

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    Drogba in the house
     
  12. allothersnsused

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    Ivanovic still garbage.
     
  13. allothersnsused

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    @ChelseaHQ: For the 3rd time today. 'Jose Mourinho' and 'Where were you when we were sh*t'
     
  14. allothersnsused

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    Costa, get off my team
     
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  15. RavenNole

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    I've calmed down a bit from my post-sack hatred of everyone and everything. Something tells me that simeone stays at atletico and pep goes to city. Daily Mail throwing out that we might go after pelligrini if that is the case. He is certainly the anti-mourinho which I think the board and the players want to see. I don't rate him in the top tier of managers but I think we could do worse. Scares me that the success at city has come with a superior squad though. Unless Roman backs the team like the old days I don't see us having a stronger squad than city in the next few seasons

    As far as players, I would like to see who the new manager is on a permanent basis before making any transfer decisions. Too many players have come and gone for us without any clear direction. I don't think we are built for what mourinho wanted. Too many skill players and not enough grit. Build toward the vision of the next permanent manager wants

    Only exception is Costa he can go back to la liga regardless of who is manager
     
  16. Ace Boogie

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    You missed a golden opportunity to name Tim Sherwood placeholder manager, he would have really given the youth a chance to flourish before handing them off to the permanent hire in the summer.
     
  17. SugarShaun

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    Remy probably would've started pounding them into the back of the net with the boost he gave Ade and Benteke
     
  18. Ace Boogie

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    A little short and not quite black enough but would still be a threat for sure. Now if they went and got Drogba back in January, watch the fuck out.
     
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  19. SugarShaun

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    My immediate thought was good lord if they hadn't sold Lukaku
     
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  20. Ace Boogie

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    Surplus to requirements, clearly. That KdB couldn't sniff this squad either.
     
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  21. aisle seven

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    Are there many players that truly fit the Mourinho mold? I think that's the biggest issue making his program work for an extended period of time. He can get guys to buy in for a short period of time but that eventually wears off for most.
     
  22. Ace Boogie

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    And all things being fair he made some pretty poor personnel decisions in hindsight. Not SAF-Pogba level poor but poor nonetheless.
     
  23. RavenNole

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    There are not. You need wingers who buy into defending but have power and pace (Willian) central midfielders who want to defend but can also push the counter attack (matic) and also players with the mental capacity and strength to deal with mourinho. I think a mourinho dynasty (if it were to ever be successful) would need to have mourinho in charge of everything and 3-5 new starters coming in each year with 3-5 staple players that are true mourinho believers to steady the dressing room

    There is some debate on how much he had a say in transfers. I don't believe he bought schurrle, Willian, cuadrado or Salah. Ironically cesc and Costa seem to be his buys. He pushed for matic even though the board had reservations at spending that money on a guy who was a throw in for the Luiz deal. I believe he asked for Pedro. Lukaku was all on him. I don't think he wanted to sell de Bruyne and wanted to keep him to fight for a spot but not sure he fought his sale too hard either

    Will never know how much was mourinho vs technical director but I can't disagree that personal choices have been poor. Problem at Chelsea the last few years has been inconsistency. Chelsea decided to buy young talent, loan them and then move them into starting XI. The scouting and selection of players was immense. Hazard, oscar, lukaku, de Bruyne, courtois and the list goes on. The integration and use of these players was never really set up and that caused some to get sold too soon and some that are really good players that just didn't really fit in with mourinho
     
  24. Ace Boogie

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    I find it hard to believe that Mourinho didn't have a pretty big say in all transfer dealings. Why would the board just go out and splash cash on 4 wide attacking players in Cuadrado, Schurrle, Willian, and Salah without him giving it the ok? I understand the pressure to win and produce results immediately is pretty significant at Chelsea but the amount of time some of these players were given to settle in to the EPL is laughable. It is a big adjustment to the style played in the leagues some were coming from.

    His refusal to rotate enough down the stretch last season quite likely had at least something to do with the poor start to this one IMO. With a squad that deep he definitely could have managed minutes a little better for me. I'm clearly no Mourinho, just my personal thoughts looking in from the outside.
     
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  25. MODEVIL

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    Chelsea have 4 premier league/1st division titles in the last 50 years. The Special One was the manager for 3 of those 4........if you think we are all going to crush him, you are in the wrong thread Ace Boogie

    Is he perfect? No.
     
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  26. Ace Boogie

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    Sorry if I was coming across as anti Mourinho as I've been drinking since noon. I'm actually a big fan of his and his don't give a fuck persona. The league is going to be worse off without his personality. I just found some of the personnel moves very puzzling, obviously there are likely behind the scenes factors at play in all of those decisions that we aren't privy to.
     
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  27. MODEVIL

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    Chelsea are a complicated club and I'm fairly certain that Mourinho did not have as much power on the transfer front as you believe he did.
     
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  28. Ace Boogie

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    I guess I'm just having a hard time wrapping my head around how it all went so wrong after a season like last one. It seemed like the players quit on him which is puzzling given they had won the fucking title. I can see one or two players having a dip in form but so many seemingly turning to shit all at once just doesn't add up. In the end I'd trade one title for a decade mired in the bottom half of the table, so on that note I'll see myself out.
     
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  29. MODEVIL

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    Terry, Costa, Cesc and Matic are perhaps off HGH.........they didn't make one off season acquisition of note. The board is probably tighter with money because of the oil prices and other global economic factors.

    Also the special one grinds them hard. Hazard was/is out of form and perhaps a little heavy.
     
  30. aisle seven

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    I get his record is really impressive but I don't think Vardy is the solution to our issues.
     
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  31. Ace Boogie

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    More like Eatin' Hazard amirite?
     
  32. clemsontyger04

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    nope

    would rather have mahrez over Vardy
     
  33. Andy Reocho

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    :laugh:

    You're hilarious
     
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  34. Ace Boogie

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    I swear I didn't put him up to it
     
  35. JGator1

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    well done Costa
     
  36. JGator1

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    jesus christ Matic wtf are you doing
     
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  37. aisle seven

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    JOM on to save the day!
     
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  39. JGator1

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    beautiful, think Costa was a hair offside but fuck it
     
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  40. JGator1

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    Fucking Oscar, hate that pause shit for pks.
     
  41. MODEVIL

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    Fell asleep on the couch during first half and woke up to Oscar saying the PK. :feelsbadman:
     
  42. RavenNole

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    Traore at striker for the second half please. I know at old trafford is not the ideal position for his first big shot but we need a striker. He is a player who scored a good chunk of goals as a striker in Europe. Can take any of the 4 not named Willian off
     
  43. BleedinGreen

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    Not sure how we're not down 3 right now. Great header from terry early tho.
     
  44. JGator1

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    jesus fucking christ Matic
     
  45. Popovio

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    One of the worst shots i've ever seen
     
  46. jplaYa

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    Should probably be 1-1. At 0-0, I'm happy.
     
  47. JGator1

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    taking off the 1 of the 4 most willing to track back?
     
  48. JGator1

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    how the fuck does Atkinson not play advantage on that Schweinsteiger foul?
     
  49. RavenNole

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    From chelseayouth on Twitter

    Posted a few times since Aug but after last game of the year: #CFC scored more than once from open play in 9 of 56 (inc friendlies) in 2015.
     
  50. aisle seven

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    The Cesc-Costa connection took all of 2015 off but is back in 2016.