CUNT MOUTH KILLA ZIMMERMAN IN HIDING, OBAMA SAYS FEDERAL CHARGES COMING

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  1. Fligger

    Fligger New Member

    I feel unfairly treated in society because I have greasy skin so I am going to complain even though there are face washes that can help me out, because complaining and being lazy is much easier than working for something I have the opportunity to do fairly.
  2. * J Y *

    * J Y * TEXAS

    I havent seen you bitching for the last few pages about Hispanic on black relations in the US.
  3. The Best Alive

    The Best Alive Interfere w/ dese nuts!

    That's one of the main reasons I like to argue just to argue sometimes is because you'll tend to hear some interesting new perspectives and different angles on topics you may not have thought about or seen presented before. It's mainly just always a learning experience and opportunity to broaden myself normally even though I come off as pretty hardline about the stances I take.

    You're not going to always have a bunch of agreements(especially with stuff like this) but normally everybody winds up leaving things with a better understanding where everyone is coming from and why they feel the way they do about things.

    Plus things would be pretty boring if everybody always had the exact same opinion or viewpoint on everything as me all the time. Except for when it concerns Voltimes shitty trolling skills as I'm pretty sure we're all in agreement that those are pretty lackluster.
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  4. truenole87

    truenole87 New Member

    Lol. Okay.
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    a counter protest at a Justice for Trayvon rally

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  6. truenole87

    truenole87 New Member

    Good luck "standing your groud"
  7. truenole87

    truenole87 New Member

    There's nothing wrong with defending yourself. But at the very least, the cause for using deadly force needs to be examined here. If anyone's defense can be "he was gonna kill me" that's not a good precedent to set. It was my understanding that the law was initially written with home invasions and things of that nature in mind. Meaning if you shoot someone who has broken into your home, you're protecting your home and family and that makes the homicide justifiable. That's not what happened here, so it's funny to see people act as if something doesn't need to be reexamined.
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  8. ma3polo

    ma3polo Blah!!

    I keep reading "If the person who pulled the trigger were Black, than no one would be outraged". Well since everyone wants to throw out examples: Sean Bell. 2 of the officers were Black, 1 was Hispanic. Black people were still outraged.
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  9. truenole87

    truenole87 New Member

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  11. Zack Zedalis

    Zack Zedalis Silver Fox'n

    Maybe they are just standing their ground until all the facts come out
  12. truenole87

    truenole87 New Member

    I suppose? The facts already available make it clear that situations like this shouldn't occur though.
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    finally some enhanced pictures

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  15. truenole87

    truenole87 New Member

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    When Zimmerman replied that he didn’t have a problem, Martin said, “You do now.” The unarmed teenager hit Zimmerman, knocked him to the ground, pinned him down and told him to “shut the [expletive] up.”

    During the beating, Zimmerman pulled his gun and fired one shot at close range into Martin’s chest. “You got me,” the teenager said, falling backward.

    hahahahhah WHAT?? Is this a cartoon or something
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  17. truenole87

    truenole87 New Member

    He said "You do now" and also allegedly "You're gonna die tonight" in addition to "You got me"

    All pulled from poorly written comic books.
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  18. 941Gator

    941Gator TMB's resident beach bum

    this was pointed out a few pages ago. Anyway, I reeeeeaaaaaallllly don't think cops wouldn't have at least booked him for manslaughter if he didn't have that cut or some blood somewhere. they made some mistakes but i think there was enough evidence for them to buy the self-defense claim that night. @NoleNBlue
  19. Beowulf69

    Beowulf69 I can't swim but the fall will probably kill me

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  21. rodmansrage

    rodmansrage wearing a hoodie.

    homegirl is built like a fullback, i dont think anyone is moving her.
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  22. Can I Spliff it

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    That's because those photos from daily caller are shopped
  23. The Best Alive

    The Best Alive Interfere w/ dese nuts!

    A Sunset Riders reference alone is worthy of so many likes in addition to "you got me" but sadly I can only give one.

    P.S. This is probably old but I came across this earlier today



    I mean you kind of had to see something like this coming but out of all the rappers, fucking Plies:roll:. I mean fuck, was Gucci Mane too busy?
  24. Nole96SC

    Nole96SC Old Member

    Pretty slick of Plies to use the "We are Trayvon" instead of "Iam Trayvon" to skirt his mom's trademarks.
  25. Kirk Fogg

    Kirk Fogg "Tell them what they've won Olmec!"

    Has this thread mentioned at all the parents that have written Obama 3 times to get him to acknowledge the death of their two sons, yet he hasn't?

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    white kids killed by a nog
  26. truenole87

    truenole87 New Member

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    Yeah. Discussed how it was irrelevant in relation to this case also.
  27. truenole87

    truenole87 New Member

    Heard the Plies song on the radio the other day. Not shocking, but still terrible.
  28. Nole96SC

    Nole96SC Old Member

    Damn that shit actually got played on the radio?
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  29. truenole87

    truenole87 New Member

    Literally the face I made when I heard it.
  30. truenole87

    truenole87 New Member

    I will say that publicly sensationalized incidents like this do make me pray harder for a new season of Boondocks, because I'm about 99.9% certain there would be an episode on this.
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  31. The Best Alive

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    If we're going to get a song out of this I was hoping for something more along the lines of Lupe, Mos Def(or whatever the fuck he calls himself now), or Talib.

    Plies is not exactly the first guy that comes to most peoples minds when they think about social commentary in rap. To be truthful he probably comes in somewhere in the late 1000's just slightly behind Weird Al Yankovich.

    There are probably some better artists that were probably working on songs though. I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that Kanye is probably working on a Trayvon song for example. On the downside though(or upside depending on how you look at it) said song would still somehow be entirely about Kanye and how awesome he is and how hard it is being super rich.
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  32. truenole87

    truenole87 New Member

    What sucks is that Plies is actually an intelligent dude who sold out by pandering to ignorance. He's extremely well spoken and has a degree in engineering. He's a true caricature.
  33. The Best Alive

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    I would not have expected that(an engineering degree) from the way the guy acts so he had me fooled. Trying to look it up right now all I could come across was something about him having a nursing degree. It's kind of sad that people basically have to put on a show to avoid losing their appeal to the audience that wants their rappers to have street cred.

    While searching for his college info I also came across the fact that he was rapping about being locked up before he had ever even been arrested in his life so I guess he figured he wasn't going to half ass his "persona".

    I'm not gonna lie, I listen to a lot of southern rap along the lines of his stuff as long as there's a good track behind the terrible lyrics but every time rappers like him put out their new single where they basically talk about nothing I can't help but think of this:

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  34. ma3polo

    ma3polo Blah!!

    Coco Brown. The chin is kinda strong, but other than that :quagmire:
  35. 941Gator

    941Gator TMB's resident beach bum

    haven't seen them.
  36. 941Gator

    941Gator TMB's resident beach bum

  37. DutchTiger

    DutchTiger New Member

    AJC.com

    It's an old legal concept, one that has been in place in Georgia like Florida, for more than a century. But Martin's death has drawn national attention to the law that makes it OK to shoot to kill.
    George Zimmerman, a self-described neighborhood watch captain, told police he was justified in shooting the 17-year-old Martin, who Zimmerman said attacked him. Martin's parents and supporters say the teen was attacked without provocation while returning to his father's home in Sanford, Fla. after walking to a convenience store for tea and candy.
    The details of the case, now well-known around the country, illustrate just how muddy "stand your ground" laws can become. Twenty-five states, including Georgia and Florida, have virtually identical laws. Stand your ground laws provide immunity from prosecution if you kill someone while defending yourself.
    In Georgia there have been 21 cases of justifiable homicide since 2003, according to the Georgia Bureau of Investigation. Those are homicides in which the police at the scene, prosecutors later on or a judge in an initial hearing decided no crime had been committed.
    Many prosecutors, defense attorneys and gun rights advocates agree there is a need for the laws that allow deadly force in some circumstances, but there are some who disagree.
    “We were adamantly opposed to the shoot-first-ask-questions-later law,” said Brian Malte with the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. “That’s a recipe for tragedy.”
    Still, the courts have said for more than a century it's legal to "stand your ground" with deadly force when faced with a threat of death or serious injury.
    Georgia's Supreme Court wrote in 1898 -- and many times since -- there is no requirement that a victim of an attack first try to escape before using deadly force to stop an aggressor. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled also in 1898 that "a true man does not fly in the face of an aggressor who seeks to do him grievous bodily harm."
    "That came to be known as the ‘true man rule' and that has evolved into the stand your ground rule," said University of Georgia law professor Ron Carlson.
    It has only been in recent years that states have included those court decisions in their laws. Florida's adopted a stand your ground law in 2005 and Georgia in 2006, expanded upon the self-defense rights the courts have upheld for years. There are 23 other states with similar laws that allow for justifiable homicide with no requirement that the victim first try to escape; seven other states allow residents to defend themselves with deadly force in specific areas -- such as at home in the car or at the workplace.
    Self-defense claims are made often in homicide cases, Georgia prosecutors say. But it's hard to make a legitimate claim of self-defense.
    “Rational, reasonable citizens who use deadly force to protect themselves... are fairly rare," said Gwinnett County District Attorney Danny Porter.
    In Dekalb County, said chief assistant district attorney Don Geary, "In half the drug murders we get, they claim it was self defense.... The problem with self-defense is if you're in the commission of a felony, you can't claim self-defense."
    A key question in the Martin shooting is whether Zimmerman was the aggressor. If so, Carlson said, he was not justified to use deadly force.
    "Can you say ... ‘I triggered this thing...but then I backed off ?'" Carlson said. "When do you stop being the aggressor?"
    But Martin’s family deny teenager attacked Zimmerman. They believe he was an innocent victim.
    Often there is only one witness, the person who pulled the trigger or had the knife, and that person is claiming self-defense.
    "Sometimes you ... make a judgment call based on all the evidence [and] whether the acts were reasonable," said Gwinnett prosecutor Porter. "The standard is whether or not a reasonable man would have acted the same way under the circumstances."
    And even if police and prosecutors believe there was no self-defense, a jury can find otherwise.
    Lona Scott shot her husband, Cliff, six times during an argument in their bedroom on March 4, 2008, after the 42-year-old trucking executive had transferred assets totaling $5 million into a bank account in the Bahamas and was divorcing her.
    The police and prosecutors believed it was murder. Lona Scott said it was self defense. She was indicted 14 months later.
    The Dunwoody mother of two argued at trial she had no choice, she couldn't escape so she had to stand her ground and kill her husband before he killed her.
    On Feb. 2, 2010, a jury deadlocked 11-1 in favor of guilty. When she went on trial a second time, she was acquitted.
    "If you're truly a victim, you don't have to wait and give the man or the woman (attacker) another chance," said Lona Scott's defense attorney, Brian Steel.
    Cliff Scott's family was stunned by the verdict.
    Josephine Scott said a "stand your ground" claim is appropriate sometimes but it was not in the death of her son.
    "How many shots constitute self-defense?" said Josephine Scott. "The first shot severed his aorta. The next one pierced his elbow... There were two [shots] to the elbow. The fourth shot was between the eyes. Then she shot him twice in the back as he was flat on the ground. You call that self-defense?"
    And sometimes it's easy to decide deadly force was justified.
    Law enforcement officials said there was little question Georgia's stand your ground law applied to Georgia Tech student Lewis Moore when he shot and killed 30-year-old Yuhanna Abdulah Williams in December 2010.
    Moore was getting out of his car at a Conyers grocery store when Moore grabbed him, put a knife to his throat and demand money and car keys.
    Moore told police he grabbed his Taurus .357 Magnum from its a holster, turned and shot Williams in the face.
    The first thing he said to a Rockdale County deputy was "this guy tried to rob me and I shot him."
    Witnesses agreed.
    "It was a clear-cut case of self defense," said Rockdale County Sheriff's Office investigator Michael Camp.
    Moore was not charge
  38. DutchTiger

    DutchTiger New Member

    Cliff: I think the stand your ground law is p good. The article above gives some solid examples. You have to prove that you were afraid for your life and that you weren't the aggressor. Keep in mind that in this case, Zimmerman was initially the aggressor by following the man. There are 2 scenarios that will determine the outcome of this case.

    1. Say zimmerman had talked/argued with Trayvon and finished....and then was walking back to his car. If, at that point, he was attacked and can prove he feared for his life, he had a right to shoot.

    2. Say zimmerman had talked/argued with Trayvon and then it escalated to a physical altercation. At that point Trayvon would have been able to claim self defense. Zimmerman wouldn't be able to claim self defense/stand your ground unless his injuries presented corroboration evidence that his life was in danger.

    Hope this helps.
  39. 941Gator

    941Gator TMB's resident beach bum

    thanks lol
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  40. Beowulf69

    Beowulf69 I can't swim but the fall will probably kill me

    No offense but these two scenarios have been discussed ad nauseam for the 39 pages of this thread. Some (like me) just don't believe the 1st is plausible.
  41. DutchTiger

    DutchTiger New Member

    Haven't read the thread bc I don't read anything theHebrew posts. I agree the first scenario didn't occur. Bad thing about this situations is that the prosecutor has to disprove zimmermmans story.
  42. Beowulf69

    Beowulf69 I can't swim but the fall will probably kill me

    I usually ignore senor kracker killer but this thread has been pretty good despite his attempt to troll his own thread.
  43. Harrison Cougars

    Harrison Cougars New Member

    I guess 'ole Treyvonnarayray will never be the head of a major corporation...

    One less vote for Obama! IMO Zimmerman is a hero for taking out a dangerous hood, thug, punk, worthless drug-dealer who shouldn't have been in a gated-community that he didn't live in. Hey :w2d:'s...: Those gates are to keep you out! Learn your lesson or we'll teach you again!
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  44. Beowulf69

    Beowulf69 I can't swim but the fall will probably kill me

  45. MANPOW

    MANPOW #AUTO/3HUNNA

    You're so cool brah
  46. The Best Alive

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    I don't know, I feel like that's a little bit too generous
  47. dathalfnukkahd

    dathalfnukkahd dat nukka high definition

    I agree
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  49. truenole87

    truenole87 New Member

  50. The Best Alive

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    On a somewhat related note I found it pretty amusing that when it came out recently that NBC edited Zimmerman's 911 calls to make him sound more racist that so many people were actually shocked to find out that a news outlet would do something like that.

    This is obviously a lot more blatant than most instances but how people don't realize they're constantly trying to subtly(or sometimes not so subtly) influence peoples opinions on things is beyond me.

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