Detroit Red Wings: Priority Waste - Our Sponsor and Our Defense Core

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  1. The Banks

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    I hear there's this Finn that's an absolute sniper (no not Simo Häyhä) that is the next Teemu Selanne. We should take a look at him.

    April 8, 2009: "This kid looks like he's going to be a superstar. He's absolutely electric 1-on-1 against a defender, and made a lot of highly ranked defenseman look absolutely silly. He's a natural goalscorer that could be among the tournament leaders in goals. I've heard a lot of good things about Taylor Hall, and I've been a huge Cam Fowler fan for years now, but Pulkkinen might be good enough to get consideration as the top overall pick in next year's draft."
     
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  2. DeToxRox

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  3. DeToxRox

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  4. DeToxRox

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  5. DeToxRox

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    Athanasiou made the club obviously. Kronwall on short term IR.

    Not sure why DK and Marchenko are together, seems redundant. Hopefully Smith isn't hurt as well.
     
  6. DeToxRox

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    Also AA filling in for Z means he is ticketed for the press box. Thank god we brought Helm back.
     
  7. DayDomination

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    Whatever. Same shit, different year.

    Hoping for catastrophic injuries.
     
  8. lomcevak

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    It cracks me up to read what fans of other teams are saying regarding our shit situation; they all give the wings a pass thinking we've been so good for so long, KH knows what he's doing
     
  9. Fran Tarkenton

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    will one of you play TMB Fantasy Hockey with us
     
  10. DeToxRox

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    One game in and the D is trashier than I figured. Outside of one soft goal Mrazek played great. We should have absolutely given up ten last night.
     
  11. DeToxRox

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    Also I am sure the 4th line will be better than last night but they were so overmatched. Our fourth line should be Helm/Glenny/Sheahan. I am not sure why it's so hard.
     
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  12. lomcevak

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    I'd be curious to see what the advanced stats say about McCarty, maltby, and draper were like during their heyday. Maybe it's my fondness for those teams, but I feel like they more than held their own regardless of competition
     
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  13. DayDomination

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    Hate the 4th line right now.

    Nyquist-AA-Vanek may be a little soft.. But that would be a stellar and speedy 3rd line. Throw Vanek up to the 2nd line and bring Mantha up. Nyquist-AA-Mantha. Nyquist-AA-Z?
     
  14. DeToxRox

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    This seems much better

    Ansar Khan ‏@AnsarKhanMLive 2m2 minutes ago

    3 different lines in #RedWings practice:
    Athanasiou-Nielsen-Zetterberg
    Tatar-Larkin-Sheahan
    Nyquist-Helm-Vanek
    Abdelkader-Glendening-Miller

    Ansar Khan ‏@AnsarKhanMLive 2m2 minutes ago

    Ott rotating in on fourth line.

    Ansar Khan ‏@AnsarKhanMLive 2m2 minutes ago

    One switch in #RedWings defense pairs in practice:
    DeKeyser-Green
    Smith-Marchenko
    Ericsson-Ouellet
    Kronwall (knee) and Sproul extras
     
  15. The Banks

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    God damn is Miller just a waste of a roster spot. You need 4 PKing forwards. Sheahan, Helm, Abby, and Glendening. Done. All 4 can take draws too.
     
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  16. bignate50

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    If there not gonna give Mantha a shot and would rather roll with Drew friggen Miller they might as well just unload the kid.
     
  17. Constant

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    Or else let him season for 20 more games and then bring him up. One of the two.
     
  18. bignate50

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    Ya that's the other option. Maybe they plan on bringing him up in December, who knows.
     
  19. The Banks

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    He's well seasoned though. And it's hurting the team having Miller instead of him. What's the argument of waiting?
     
  20. Constant

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    I'm not arguing for waiting. Merely pointing out that there is something between "play him now" and "dump him forever".
     
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  21. billy89

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    sweet Jesus - a $4.25 million 4th liner :blech:

    IF Mantha comes up and Miller/Ott go away, what do the lines look like?
     
  22. The Banks

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    Gotcha, didn't think anyone thought the latter would actually happen
     
  23. DeToxRox

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    Flat out abused tonight. Yikes.

    Mantha has scored in both Griffs games though, so there is that
     
  24. DeToxRox

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    Make it stop

     
  25. lomcevak

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    Infuriating.
     
  26. bignate50

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    How was Mantha a spare part
     
  27. bignate50

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    Pretty sure that's an old quote from 2 playoffs ago
     
  28. DeToxRox

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    Four fights already this year. Wonder how long it took us to get there last year?
     
  29. DeToxRox

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    It's not a good thing we keep fighting by the way
     
  30. The Banks

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    Thank goodness for Ottawa and their defense.
     
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  31. Constant

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    Yeah, that was drunken Devellano, wasn't it?
     
  32. CraigAnne Conway

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    Caught some feels seeing this is the final opener at the Joe.
    Other than The Igloo/Consol/PPG Paints Arena and Nationwide arena, The Joe is where I have seen the most games.
    Will miss that old barn.
     
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  33. Constant

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    I saw more games in the Olympia than I did at the Joe. I still think of the Joe as the fancy new place.

    Fuck, I'm old. But the Olympia rocked.
     
  34. RalfBully

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    Anyone got any updated pics on LSA? Or whatever the fuck it is being called?
     
  35. Lip

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    What the fuck is LSA?
     
  36. DayDomination

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    I'm guessing he meant LCA

    Little Caesars Arena
     
  37. M'ark Pepperonio

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    The fuck is wrong with you?
     
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  38. Constant

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    Little Seizures Arena.
     
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  39. DeToxRox

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    Mantha with a goal tonight to give him a three game goal streak to start the year
     
  40. DayDomination

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    Good thing we signed Steve Ott!
     
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  41. Constant

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    Disclaimer: Past performance in the AHL is no guarantee of future performance in the NHL.
     
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  42. DeToxRox

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    Mantha scored again
     
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  43. DeToxRox

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    Hat trick for Mantha
     
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  44. bignate50

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    Yes it was
     
  45. The Banks

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    I would like to know the last time 1.00 GPG in the CHL over the entire season didn't translate to the NHL.
     
  46. Constant

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    Did Mantha do that?
     
  47. The Banks

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    81 goals in 81 games.
     
  48. Constant

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    36 in 122 in the AHL is probably more relevant. It's promising, but he's a 20 goal scorer to ate. It doesn't scream "how can you keep this kid down!!".

    How's his defensive game?
     
  49. The Banks

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    Gotta consider half his AHL games he was recovering from a shattered leg and then focusing on developing his defensive game. Now that he's recovered and checked off he has been pretty impressive.
     
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  50. billy89

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    Am I the only one who is getting sick of such a focus on the defensive side of the puck for forwards who are considered goal scorers? I get the need to be able to play a 200 foot game, but come the fuck on...we have Sheahan, Nielsen, Helm, Abby, Z and even Tatar, to an extent, who excel as "two-way forwards." where is the harm in letting guys like Mantha loose? Let him find his offensive game and start teaching him the nuances of the NHL defensive game from there.

    And I get that Holland puts a premium on that right now because our defense is atrocious, but it's starting to wear thin with me. We can't keep neutering our pure offensive players.