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  1. Don't Hate Me Bro!

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    Kershaw... Kershaw/Cueto
     
  2. fucktx

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    Well, I've never really seen any data on it. I'd like to. It's mainly just from experience, but at the same time stacks work in your favor in cash games as well. Like last night with the Padres. I'd like to see a write up on it tbh.
     
  3. Corky Bucek

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    any bats you are liking tonight?
     
  4. Don't Hate Me Bro!

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    Simply put it's floor vs ceiling. You take more high upside risks in gpp's than you would in cash. RG has a shit ton of articles on it with data driven analysis. Peruse fellas.
     
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  5. Don't Hate Me Bro!

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    Not with the salary allotment I have left lol. Cuddyer is top 3 of all hitters regardless of position in my projections. He's locked in for that price on DK. I'll be going with a lot of platoon guys like Mayberry, Van Slyke, Nava, Seth Smith types. Im tinkering with dropping Kerhsaw for Price, to see how much it improves my LU... maybe fit in Cano, idk. Checking posted LU's to see who's cheap and batting up in the order tonight.
     
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  6. fucktx

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    That weather looks scary for the mets/Braves game. I like freeman a lot but the forecast seems to be getting worse.
     
  7. fucktx

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    Tomas isn't in the lineup
     
  8. Corky Bucek

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    Saw this somewhere:

    random stat of the day: Nelson Cruz has homered on 5 straight Wednesdays

    Let's make it 6 please.
     
  9. pianoman

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    I'm not arguing that stacking isn't the way to go and that it doesn't cash higher and more frequently. I'm arguing that you shouldn't not stack for cash games. With baseball there isn't consistency in any players but the high priced ones so it's just as risky picking players from different teams. Baseball isn't basketball where you can put together a consistent team and be confident in it.
     
  10. Don't Hate Me Bro!

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    The idea behind stacking is correlative value and achieving a super high score to take down top heavy payouts... that's much harder to pinpoint/assess accurately/consistently than a player's floor/consistency, and value in relation to their salary, in cash games.

    Scoring 100-150 pts on DK or 35-50 on FD, consistently, is much easier than scoring what it takes to finish in the top 10 of a gpp. It's not THAT random or there wouldn't be professionals who make the bulk of their income in cash games. Stacking has its place in cash games, but usually short slate days and mini stacks, but long term it's -EV to stack regularly in cash games. You're just not going to hit/cash frequently enough to profit.
     
  11. pianoman

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    I've been profiting for two years doing it so it must work out ok.
     
  12. Don't Hate Me Bro!

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    What's your screen name?
     
  13. pianoman

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    It's got my last name in it so I'm not comfortable giving it.
     
  14. pianoman

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    With Tomas out I ended up with this.

    Cueto
    Ruiz
    Cano
    Moustakas
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    Cain
    Cuddyer
     
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    Great start from Price. :killme:
     
  16. bstaple12

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    Ended up going Cueto/Archie Bradley in my 50/50 games and Hamels/Karns in my GPP
     
  17. fucktx

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    Glad I passed on price. Thought about changing cueto to price last minute but I didn't. I just tinker too much. I'm not trying to fuck anyone when I do that. I would have never suggested the last second move I made yesterday, it just happened to work out in my favor.
     
  18. gatordmd8

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    Anyone doing nba?
     
  19. fucktx

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    Nah. Always hated 2-3 game slates. I cashed last night but barely. Think the cash line was only 260 or so on FD.
     
  20. gatordmd8

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    Ok fellas. Help me out here. Why were 17% of people in the moonshot on dk on Paredes who already has 23 fp what did I miss?

    Edit. At 2k salary.
     
  21. bstaple12

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    Yeah a lot of people have him in my 50/50. He was dirt cheap and I think he got moved to 2nd in the order. Plus that game was set at a total of 9 too
     
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  22. pianoman

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    He was cheap, in the three games he's played he's gone 2-5, 3-5, and 1-3 and he was batting second in a strong lineup. If I hadn't been set on Cano he would of made sense for a cheaper option.
     
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  23. fucktx

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    He's a nice cheap option. He's basically taken pearce's job.
     
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  24. gatordmd8

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    Thanks guys. I guess I don't do enough research and or don't watch enough baseball. I asked Don't Hate Me Bro! but I'm not sure he ever answered but how much time do yall typically spend a day doing research for MLB?
     
  25. fucktx

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    All day off and on. Basically any moment that I have when I'm not busy.
     
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  26. pianoman

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    Similar to wtx I do it throughout the day at work. Probably adds up to an hour or so maybe a little more.
     
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  27. Don't Hate Me Bro!

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    ~1hr the night before (now) looking at the pitching matchups, early Vegas lines, seeing what games I'm going to target, looking at salaries on each site for tomorrow's games. I usually enter my games with rough estimate dummy LU's of who I like/fits, but will change tomorrow as LU's come out/projections are updated.

    ~1hr tomorrow looking at all the projections from the different sites I subscribe to and vs my own, finagling a final LU, checking weather, etc.

    Indirectly I'm on fangraphs, pitchfx, and sabremetric/deep stat sites off and on just reading or looking at different guys I'm curious about... I kinda compare it to reading the back of baseball cards growing up. Eventually you memorize popular guys woba, xfips, gb/fb, hard contact rates, teams K rate vs sliders, and all that crap. So that shortens up the process. When I first started I spent 3-4 hours. The best advice I canngove is don't obsess researching every guy, target a few games, players at each position, and work from there.

    When I started basketball I spent 2-3 hours/night, but once I recognized the consistency/simplicity in the numbers it was no more than 30mins a night + the 20-30 mins before tip that you have to watch Twitter for LU's and scratches.
     
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  28. gatordmd8

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    Thanks man. This seems like good advice.
    I usually spend an hour at night and make an initial lineup. Then I tinker the next day sometimes at lunch but sometimes I'm just too busy with work to really get to mess with them. Next thing I know, it is 7:00 est and I have to do something.

    Cashed in all 50/50s last night but just missed the moon shot. Ended up going cueto and happ and bith did well. Bats just didn't show up. I had 4 zeroes. I think that's most I have had since I started this.
     
  29. fucktx

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    Finished with 145 on DK and only had 20.25 on FD. Cueto was 17 of those points.

    :laugh:
     
  30. pianoman

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    Same for me Cueto was pretty much all my points besides Cain.
     
  31. pianoman

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    Pitching will probably determine who cashes today. The two top guys, Scherzer and Sale, get difficult matchups. I'm trying to decide between Sanchez, Colon, and Ventura.
     
  32. fucktx

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    i'm either going to play the early games or the late games. haven't decided yet but i can't have my lineup lock for an all day and one of my hitters not be in the lineup
     
  33. Don't Hate Me Bro!

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    I'm seriously considering punting P today. Hendricks and Chavez on DK. Prob Scherzer Greinke on FD, undecided.
     
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  34. pianoman

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    I don't think Greinke is pitching today. Yeah I thought about Hendricks too but I want to see a few good starts out of him before I go there.
     
  35. fucktx

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    mike bolsinger is starting for the dodgers today
     
  36. pianoman

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    I'm liking this for the early slate right now.

    Sanchez
    Rupp
    Votto
    Peterson
    Bryant
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    Cargo
    Braun
    Denorfia
     
  37. fucktx

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    probably going with wellington castillo as my C
     
  38. fucktx

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    damn does phelps look nice against that fucking horrible phillies lineup or what
     
  39. pianoman

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    With how many big guys I've got I needed to punt catcher. I was hoping Miami was going to start Realmuto so I could go with him but they're starting Saltalamacchia
     
  40. fucktx

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    damn i wish i knew if phelps was on a pitch count or not
     
  41. fucktx

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    going with spangenberg at 2nd
     
  42. fucktx

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    CarGo is out
     
  43. fucktx

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    also going with venable now instead of denorfia
     
  44. pianoman

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    Yup saw that. I'm switching peterson for Spangenberg. Might upgrade Rupp to Castillo and go with Aoki instead of Cargo.
     
  45. fucktx

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    went with homer bailey. no real reasoning behind it besides the fact that i like my lineup with him as my pitcher and the brewers offense has been awful.

    :ohnoes:
     
  46. fucktx

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    probably going to turn out horrible but i'll play more in the late games if it does
     
  47. bstaple12

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    Will probably roster Colon. Think this about the time where the Braves offense hits a huge slump.
    Edit:shit completely forgot about day games
     
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  48. The Hebrew Husker

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    Missed the early game, what we got for later?
     
  49. fucktx

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    not much. all of the better hitters are high priced and all of the lower priced guys suck for the most part. sale is the best bet at pitcher. i might play and i might not depending on how my early lineup does, but if i do i'm using sale
     
  50. MZizzle2

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    Jimmy Paredes batting second for BAL and is only 2k on DK.