DotA 2: -APEM pros only go fast!

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  1. RonBurgundy

    RonBurgundy Well-Known Member

    Totally agree with first statement but totally disagree with second one. His utility in taking towers and pushing high ground safely makes him extremely valuable. In under 4K brackets, aka all of us, he's second highest win rate offlaner behind Abaddon.

    In pro tiers, you are right, but he's a very valuable offlaner in pubs in shit tiers.
     
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  3. miles

    miles All I know is my gut says, maybe
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  4. miles

    miles All I know is my gut says, maybe
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    http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2702085088

    Game was infuriating. We could have ended the game at any time for the last half hour, but our Dusa refused to do anything but farm. Any time we would group up for the GG push he would just afk jungle farm. Our whole team finally got tired of it and decided to just follow him around until he pushed. We're finally grouped up outside their tier 3- Underlord alone split pushes on the other team: he TP's back to defend a tier 2 :donotwant:

    672 GPM dusa with 2 kills and 27k hero damage in a 63 minute game.
     
  5. RonBurgundy

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    Title: Fuck you, DotA, I fucking hate you.
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    end game, their SS waited invis til my bkb ran out then double chickened and shackled me. Was disabled after bkb for about 12 seconds until dead. My LC was just about the worst LC you could imagine.

    Died in our last highground push to get megas (only top 1 rax alive), died, but so did their Axe/PA, they had no BB, so I went alone (we got wiped) with buyback to top to take rax and get megas, in the time it took me to BB and BoTs, SS got his refresher and the combination of disables and silences I couldnt even get my ult off. Dieback to those 3. Then my team took an awful rosh fight while I was still dead from buyback, then they pushed mid with just me and Sky on defense, again disabled for days and died. GG. Went from 9-2 with almost double next player networth to death, dieback, death being alive for exactly 50 seconds in between all 3 deaths.

    Ultimate fucking throw and I am livid.
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  6. swiggle

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    nvm, oddshot sucks.
     
  7. miles

    miles All I know is my gut says, maybe
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    Our last game sucked but our second game was so fun
     
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  8. swiggle

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    I enjoyed the low prio game quite a bit as well.
     
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  9. miles

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    I don't know why I don't play SD more even not in low prio.

    I can play most of the heroes in the game now and it really cuts down on the cancer spammers.
     
  10. miles

    miles All I know is my gut says, maybe
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    New liquid just got smoked by VP after Escape 2-0'd VP
     
  11. Poetic

    Poetic This ain't water.
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    Great, everyone will probably blame Bulba :(
     
  12. RonBurgundy

    RonBurgundy Well-Known Member

    Bulba? More like Basura.

    Nailed it
     
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  13. Poetic

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    Rude.
     
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  14. miles

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    hadn't played sand king since the consensus became to max caustic, but it's such a better build. Farms super well for an offlaner and enemy heroes have to be so careful last hitting.
     
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  15. RonBurgundy

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    Interesting, the What the Duck cast said on today's podcast that Boston was not valve'a first or second or third choice for location.
     
  16. miles

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    This reminded me that last night swiggle, ron, and I played with a last pick offlane storm that went first item aghs and it kind of ruined my day again
     
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  17. J.R. Bob Dobbs

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    probably because boston is a racist shithole with shitty weather
     
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  18. Champ

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    What does it mean when games are classified as "Unknown Skill" on Dotabuff, that they're in between brackets or that it can't find access to the Volvo database?
     
  19. BrickTamland

    BrickTamland You're not Ron...
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    Means they can't handle your moves, breh.
     
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  20. RonBurgundy

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    When you queued and finally matched, skill bracket wasn't accounted for. Can mean a huge gap in hidden mmrs
     
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  21. RonBurgundy

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    Yeah awful. And my awesome pudge play was definitely not the reason we lost what so ever
     
  22. Champ

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    Man, Bounty Hunter is so good. I tell my team from the start I'll be playing the 5, pretty much no items are needed to be relevant, so I take care of courrier/wards, get a few track kills to get Mana boots/Mek/Greaves, and basically help my team get farmed while pinging at objectives and warding where I want them to go.

    http://www.dotabuff.com/players/371777579/matches?hero=bounty-hunter

    For some reason, I don't think that 61 KDA is gonna stick for much longer though.
     
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  23. Champ

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    Btw, here's my steam ID if anyone wants to add me - 371777579
     
  24. swiggle

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  25. miles

    miles All I know is my gut says, maybe
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    added
     
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  26. miles

    miles All I know is my gut says, maybe
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    Bounty is one of those heroes that I know is good and fairly simple to play, but for whatever reason I just never play him.

    Probably should start with all the riki's Ii play against.
     
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  27. RonBurgundy

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    I need to play him as a 5 with manaboots and Mek/ggs , but I end up trying to go some trash build that's more fun, like deso and Dagon lul

    Ps I'm trash with BH no surprise
     
  28. RonBurgundy

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    So I've learned I can play pretty much any role, except I absolutely cannot mid.
     
  29. Champ

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    Fuck US East during the day.
     
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  30. RonBurgundy

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    Que? Estados Unidos Este?
     
  31. miles

    miles All I know is my gut says, maybe
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    Miracle has been a pile of shit on Liquid so far
     
  32. Poetic

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    EE's new squad is absolutely skull fucking Swindlenoob and Tier 17 team CoL.
     
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  33. miles

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    Yeah, poor Moo
     
  34. RonBurgundy

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    In today's episode of "Anything can work in shit tier MMR":

    My team:
    Riki(me) - offlane
    Tinker - offlane
    Slark - mid
    BH - safe
    Lion - safe

    Them:
    PL/Lich - safe
    SF - mid
    Slardar/Kunkka off

    Tinker afk for first 3 minutes and randomly DC'd throughout, abandoned and returned at one point. We lost t4 but won fight and their diebacks.

    70 minute game. I went through 24 diffusal charges

    http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2708421300
     
  35. miles

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    -Playing against an invoker, SF, Timber, Shadow Shaman
    -Radiance Alch builds satanic instead of heart :donotwant:
    -Drow never builds a bkb in a 56 minute game
    -25 mmr
     
  36. Poetic

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    Man I hope this EG sticks together a while, so likeable on that True Sight documentary.
     
  37. RonBurgundy

    RonBurgundy Well-Known Member

    Waow



    Also, I bought a HH on Riki after diffusal to do the quest from the battle pass, surprisingly worked well (they had a Huskar, LC, and Alch so it worked well) but obviously strength completely wasted on Riki and bad gold per value in general for an agi hero. Item is awful though, 30second CD feels like eternity.
     
  38. miles

    miles All I know is my gut says, maybe
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    not to mention the 100 mana cost on heroes that usually have shit mana pools.

    It and RoA need reworks. Like being components of bigger items or something.
     
  39. BrickTamland

    BrickTamland You're not Ron...
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    Aquila is perfect as is.
     
  40. miles

    miles All I know is my gut says, maybe
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    I meant Rod of Atos

    Pretty much only justifiable on skywrath mage
     
  41. LuPoor

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    Necrophos. Visage. Techies???
     
  42. miles

    miles All I know is my gut says, maybe
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    For necro, would you really want to use a 3100 gold slow item for a slot on a carry hero? I think I'd much rather just put that gold toward a sheepstick or a shivas.

    Visage and techies aren't real heroes so they don't count iyam
     
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  43. miles

    miles All I know is my gut says, maybe
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    Silencer is probably another acceptable answer that I forgot tho
     
  44. RonBurgundy

    RonBurgundy Well-Known Member

    Never on techies or Necro

    Better items out there but ok on OD, SM, Silencer
     
  45. LuPoor

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    It gives necro lots of health and int, has a beautiful buildup, and the active is quite useful. It isn't core but I think it's situationally more than viable.
     
  46. miles

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    People used to get rod on OD sometimes but I think now that hurricane pike has been introduced by the time you get that and blink the time in the game to buy Rod is long past.
     
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  47. RonBurgundy

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    Welp I dotabuff'd it.

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    #nailedit
     
  48. BrickTamland

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    OD and core Silenecer do work with RoA, but I get your point.

    People tend to overlook items that don't do damage.
     
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  49. swiggle

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    Seems like it would work well on Pugna with his ult. One of those items I don't really think too much about, for some reason.
     
  50. RonBurgundy

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    Legion Commander is so fun. Fuck the haters, jungling is really effective. I have a 100% win rate with her.