***Group C Thread (USA 1st, England 2nd advance)***

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  1. EyeGetUnlucky

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    GROUP C


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    [size=14pt]Schedule

    Saturday June 12

    England [​IMG] 1 : 1 [​IMG] USA (Royal Bafokeng Stadium)

    Sunday June 13

    Algeria [​IMG] 0 : 1 [​IMG] Slovenia (Peter Mokaba Stadium)

    Friday June 18

    Slovenia [​IMG] 2 : 2 [​IMG] USA (Ellis Park)

    England [​IMG] 0 : 0 [​IMG] Algeria (Cape Town Stadium)

    Wednesday June 23

    Slovenia [​IMG] 0 : 1 [​IMG] England (Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium)

    USA [​IMG] 1 : 0 [​IMG] Algeria (Loftus Versfeld Stadium)

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    England:

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    Last App: 2006(Quarterfinals)
    Best App: 1966 (Winners)
    Record in WC: (W-D-L) 25-17-13

    Star Player to Watch: Joe Cole Wayne Rooney [Manchester United]

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    England, “The Three Lions”, are facing a ton of pressure in this World Cup as it will be the last one with most of their ‘golden generation’ that has disappointed thus far. England has plenty of talent, but are facing fitness and form issues. Ferdinand’s injury could be a blessing in disguise for England as he was not in good form for the majority of the season and King had a great season. If Gerrard and Lampard can finally find some chemistry, this team has a great chance to finally silence the critics. Rooney will be counted on to do most of the scoring, and if his club season was any indication, that won’t be a problem. The one weakness of this England team, as Iker Casillas pointed out earlier this week, is at GK. And no player on the team wants to be faced with a shootout, as England routinely chokes.

    England fans are expecting a deep tournament run, and with Fabio Capello (the best manager in the tournament), their fans should be confident. He had some surprise inclusions in his 23, but has won 18 of the 24 games he has coached for England. Is this the year that England finally performs up to expectations and the level that their roster would indicate?


    United States:

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    Last App: 2006(Group Stage)
    Best App: 1930 (3rd Place)
    Record in WC: (W-D-L) 6-3-11

    Star Player to Watch: Landon Donovan [L.A. Galaxy]

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    The United States won CONCACAF and are expecting to get out of the group. Bradley is limited tactically so the U.S. will run their usual 4-4-2 counter attacking style of play. Donovan is in the best form of his life and will have to carry the team on his back, and the team does not have many scoring options. Altidore, while extremely talented, struggled in England this year but has performed well for the USMNT. Gomez and Buddle have been hot lately, and hopefully continue their good form into the tournament as in order to make a run, the U.S. needs a true scoring threat. The biggest concern for the U.S. is definitely the defense, which has struggled big time recently. With Onyewu not at 100%, the center of the defense could be exposed. Fortunately, Howard is one of the best GKs and has always been a strong performer for the USMNT.

    Bradley knows his job is on the line, and he must get the team out of group play. The group is relatively easy so he should be thankful. Is this the year that the U.S. steps up and shows the rest of the world it can compete in soccer?

    Slovenia:

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    Last App: 2002 (Group Stage)
    Best App: 2002 (Group Stage)
    Record in WC: (W-D-L) 0-0-3

    Star Player to Watch: Samir Handanovi? [Udinese]

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    Slovenia pulled off the biggest qualifying shock by beating Russia on away goals thanks to a last minute goal in Moscow. They are one of the more underrated teams in the tournament, and are led by rising GK Samir Handanovi?. He helped Slovenia allow only 4 goals in 10 games during UEFA group play, the least amount by any team that played ten games. They mainly play a defensive 4-3-3, and have shown the ability to play both possession and counter attacking styles. Their biggest weakness is upfront, as they have no big time goal scorer, and considering that most of their games are defensive battles, it could pose a problem if they fall behind.

    Slovenia has shown they can beat good teams. They not only upset Russia, but also beat Slovakia home and away in qualifying. Their defense is well organized which may pose problems for the U.S., and if Handanovi? is hot, they could add the U.S. to the list of upsets. Slovenian fans will be thrilled with just getting out of the group, as they have only made one other WC appearance and went winless. So the big question for them is not only do they win their first WC game, but do they advance to the elimination round for the first time in history?

    Algeria:

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    Last App: 1986 (Group Stage)
    Best App: 1982 and 1986 (Group Stage)
    Record in WC: (W-D-L) 2-1-3

    Star Player to Watch: Nadir Belhadj (Portsmouth) [Suspended for Slovenia match]

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    Algeria is a very tough team to predict. You don’t know what you are going to get with them. They have shown they can beat some solid teams as they advanced over Egypt in qualifying and Ivory Coast in the African Cup of Nations. And they have also shown that they can get totally outplayed by unknown teams. Like the U.S. and Slovenia, they do not have a proven striker and in result play a 4-5-1. So each country thin up front is playing a different formation, and it will be interesting to see which one works best. The Algerians are led by Nadir Belhadj who showed just how talented he is by making an immediate impact on the game against Chelsea in the FA Cup Final after coming on. Unfortunately for Algeria, he is suspended for their first game against Slovenia. I’m sure they would have preferred to open up against England, because they can’t lose to Slovenia and expect to advance and it will be difficult to get a result without one of their star players when they do not have much depth.

    Like Slovenia, Algeria is just happy to be in South Africa as Egypt was supposed to win their qualifying group. But that won’t stop their fans from expecting more. Can Algeria upset Slovenia without their star to put a lot of pressure on the U.S. and basically making the final group game a win and you’re in?

    [size=14pt]Group Overview

    England has the best manager and most talented roster in the group so they are basically a lock to get out of the group. They come in as one of the favorites to win the whole tournament, but they do have a thin backline and a history of coming up short at the big stage. The United States should advance, but they have a knack for making things harder than they should be. The Americans must get favorable scores against the two “weaker” sides if the expect to advance. It will be interesting to see if any team can steal points against England, which would prove valuable in their hopes to advance. Do no underestimate Slovenia who defeated a Russian side full of stars in order to qualify. This is one of the most interesting groups in the competition and should be very exciting to follow.

    Game(s) to Watch: :americafuckyeah: games and Slovenia v Algeria

    Picks to Advance: England - USA
     
  2. broXcore

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    i think aaron lennon is another player to watch for england. i really hope our back line steps it up.
     
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    Yeah I am pretty worried about him matching up against Boca.
     
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    Slovenia will be the tricky team in this group, they are more than capable of beating England and USA. Still, i expect the mentioned teams to advance.
     
  5. eric cantona

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    ive lost all credibility. i said in the thread on the mainboard that the us-england game would be won or lost in the middle third of the field. this guy just agreed with me:

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  6. JPWahoo

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    I think Dempsey has gotta be a real key for us. He's scored big recently in international play, if that continues, we should make it out of the group fine.
     
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    :americafuckyeah: :americafuckyeah: :usasmug: :usasmug: :americafuckyeah: :americafuckyeah:
     
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    Awesome, andres. Just kopped that as my FB default for the game.
     
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    Best US world cup jersey ever.
     
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    3 Lions
     
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  14. ohhaithur

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    That Slovenia/Algeria game has all the makings of another 0-0 draw. Going into the second games, we might be looking up from the bottom of the standings, which will be tough.
     
  15. Jorts

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    A draw from them is the best the US can hope for... especially if they lose tomorrow
     
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    Jorts is being all kinds of gay about this.
     
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    :shocker:
     
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    sofa king pumped
     
  19. Jorts

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    How's that? Really doesn't matter what happens tomorrow against England. Best US can hope for is a draw between the other 2.
     
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    :ohdear:
     
  21. ckl22

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    Altidore will start tomorrow per ESPN and Bradley
     
  22. ohhaithur

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    I mean he's probably right, no? England's getting through so only one of the 3 other teams will. Wouldn't it be better to chase two teams at 1 point than 1 at 3?
     
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    USA USA USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Better wreck shit tomorrow...
     
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    USA USA USA
     
  30. Iron Mickey

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    fuck yeah

    and

    fuck you
     
  31. Jorts

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    Truth hurt?
     
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    Not at all-- just getting my 'murica on. Everyone knows I'm a godless, blame-America-first, ivory tower, pinko, commie, academic liberal.

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  33. Sam Elliott

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    So damn close!!!!!!
     
  34. football501

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    Gah, Im going stir crazy.
     
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    :oshit:
     
  36. Fcbarcelona

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    Ian Poulter will play in his birthday suit for the 1st round if England loses today hahaha
     
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    the lineup, according to the USMNT twitter

    Howard; Cherundolo, DeMerit, Onyewu, Bocanegra (c); Donovan, Bradley, Clark, Dempsey; Altidore, Findley


    Clark :(
     
  38. NATigerXIII

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    For England:

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    Lennon Lampard Milner Gerrard
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  39. BayouMafia

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    not crazy about Findley either. Would rather Buddle.
     
  40. Fcbarcelona

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    why the fuck is findley starting

    fucking facepalm













    please prove me wrong findley
     
  41. football501

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    I dont like Milner over lol Joe Cole or Carrick.
     
  42. ckl22

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    Findley could barely finish vs. Australia...yeah i know his speed is good but c'mon. At the least Buddle will prob. sub in for him after halftime
     
  43. clemsonvianj

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    predictably infuriating inclusion of clark.
     
  44. NittanyKnight

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    At bar in america and it is 5 people in england kits versus 2 of us in USA kit.

    :facepalm:
     
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    Since ESPN 3 is not streaming this game anyone have a link in English? Loading up Univision now but would prefer to understand what they are saying.
     
  46. football501

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    Murder them.
     
  47. Mix

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    fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkk findley is our worst player on this squad and he is starting?
     
  48. clemsonvianj

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    wow wow wow. he's our 2nd worst player.
     
  49. vander02

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    Clark :blowup:, I just don't get Bradley's infatuation with Clark. He is a one dimensional player that adds nothing going forward and doesn't cover enough ground on defense. Edu is such a better player.
     
  50. Corky Bucek

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    Findley, the fuck