Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by Joe_Pesci, May 12, 2010.
There was a thread on this a while back.
My friends and I were just talking in our Facebook messenger about the Russian meteor and they're all dumb so I decided to put it in perspective for them and figured people might be interested in here:
NASA estimated that it created a blast equivalent to 300,000 tons of TNT when it exploded in the atmosphere. Just so you can put the Russian meteor explosion in perspective, 300,000 tons of TNT is like 20 Hiroshimas or 15 Nagasakis.
And just because I'm sure you guys want some cool facts: The largest nuclear weapon ever made was called the Tsar Bomba, detonated by the Soviet Union in 1961. It was 57 megatons, or to put it in perspective of the explosion and the bombs dropped on Japan, 57,000 kilotons, or 57,000,000 tons. It would be roughly equivalent 3800 Hiroshimas, or 2850 Nagasakis.
And for further perspective, the recent North Korean tested yielded about 7 kilotons.
First response after I typed all that: NK = pussies lol
found this part of the assassination
"Joseph Goebbels on his wedding day. Hitler was his best man and can be seen behind him in a trench coat and top hat."
"The Quagga is an extinct subspecies of the plains zebra"
"John Young and Charles Duke training for the Apollo 16 mission in the New Mexico desert."
Alan Shepard, America's first man in space, puts on his Navy Mark IV spacesuit.
Charles Godefroy taking his Nieuport 11 “Bébé” through the Arc de Triomphe in Paris on August 7th, 1919.
Construction of the Eiffel tower in July, 1888.
Construction of Brasilia city, which would later become the capital of Brazil. 1960.
Famous album cover art for The Beatles album Abbey Road, correct? Not exactly, this is them walking back in the opposite directi
Che Guevara and Fidel Castro.
Albert Einstein's matriculation certificate that he received at the age of 17, showing his final grades.
Filming Star Wars inside of the iconic “Millennium Falcon” spacecraft.
Crew of the Starship Enterprise next to NASA's Enterprise in 1976
The US-built ENIAC (Electronic Numerical Integrator and Computer) was the first computer ever made
The unbroken seal on King Tut's Tomb.
The First Google Team in 1999.
The first Wal-Mart store was opened in 1962 by [a salesman] Sam Walton. It was called Walton's Five and Dime.
The moment George W. Bush was notified of the September 11 terrorist attacks.
Henry Ford, Thomas Edison , Warren G. Harding and Harvey Samuel Firestone lounging together.
Mathias Rust's Cessna 172 that landed illegally in the Red Square on May 28, 1987.
A German amateur pilot that flew from Finland to Moscow (while being tracked by the Soviet air defense as well as Soviet Jet Interceptors - which never received permission to fire).
One of the first photos that was taken inside of Hitler's bunker (Führerbunker) in 1945 by Allied soldiers.
Winston Churchill in a swimsuit, 1922
Madonna, Sting and Tupac hanging out.
The Quagga is an extinct subspecies of the plains zebra.
The real boarding pass for RMS Titanic
Steve Jobs and Bill Gates chatting in 1991.
Elvis Presley during his service in the U.S. Army.
During the Apollo 16 mission, Charles Duke left a family photo on the moon that was enclosed in a plastic bag.
Vought F4U Corsair crashes on the deck of a carrier when the arresting gear failed
The following photo is believed to be the last photo ever taken of the RMS Titanic before it sunk in April 1912.
John F. Kennedy at NASA's Cape Canaveral Missile Test Annex in 1962.
1884 De Dion, Bouton et Trepardou Dos-à-Dos is the oldest running car on the planet.
Douglas MacArthur signing the official Japanese surrender instrument aboard the USS Missouri, 1945.
Hitler inspecting the massive 800mm “Schwerer Gustav” railway gun from afar.
George S. Patton's Dog, Willie, mourning his best friend on the day of his death.
Joseph Goebbels on his wedding day. Hitler was his best man and can be seen behind him in a trench coat and top hat.
George Armstrong Custer and some of his fellow soldiers, during the American Civil War.
Howard Carter, an English archaeologist, examining the opened sarcophagus of King Tut.
An RAF pilot getting a haircut while reading a book between missions.
Manfred von Richthofen, aka “The Red Baron”, petting his dog on an airfield.
Samurai. ~ 1860 – 1880
A team of SAS soldiers in North Africa, 1943.
Soviet soldiers stop for a break in 1945 on the outskirts of Berlin.
Tsar Nicholas II goofing around with his friend in 1899.
Walt and Roy O. Disney on the day that they opened the Disney studio. Beside them are their wives and mother.
John Young and Charles Duke training for the Apollo 16 mission in the New Mexico desert.
The Tunguska Meteor Impact, 1908.
Spyros Louis, the first Marathon race winner, in a traditional clothing during the first Olympic Games. Greece 1896.
Auguste and Louis Lumière, the first filmmakers in history, 1914
A lot of those were repeats, but that is going to happen in 107 pages. The sealed door to king tuts tomb was my favorite. I wonder what it felt like to walk into a room that no one had been in for over 3000 years. What an erie feeling.
Coronation of Napoleon I.
James Strang, one of the claimants to the mantle of leadership for the Church of Latter Day Saints of Jesus Christ aka the Mormons. He basically started his own kingdom, even had himself crown as an ecclesiastical monarch, in Michigan with 12,000 followers.
But hey, lets look at other people claiming to be heir to non-existent thrones, first the three of France.
Louis Alphonse, Duke of Anjou of the Legitimist line (Louis XVI was the last in power)
Henri d'Orléans, Count of Paris of the Orléanist line (Louis-Philippe)
Charles Napoléon, of the Napoleon line (Napoleon III
EDIT: He's actually a practical republican in the French scene so many Bonapartists view his son Jean Christopher to be the true heir at this point.
Nicholas Romanov, Prince of Russia, one of two claimants to the Russian throne seen here with Dmitry Medvedev (not sure if it's when he was President or PM)
Constantine II of Greece, one of the few living monarchs ran out of their country
Try as the might they can't do shit for now.
Go hang yourself elsewhere!
The cartoonist who drew this famous caricature of Louis-Philippe morphing into a pear was put into jail:
here is a number of torture devices in the tower of London
Reza Pahlavi, the crown prince of the Pahlavi (Iranian/Persian) dynasty.
As a young man, being sworn in as Shah in Egypt shortly after his Father's death in 1980
Him today, usually advocating for a non-monarchist secular state in Iran.
Interesting tidbit: Reagan and the NRA not only supported but demanded a gun ban when it was black people who had guns
Lindy Patton, age 96
George Young, age 91
Daniel Taylor, age unknown
Carrie Pollard, age 78
Anne Maddox, age 113
All of these photographs were taken between 1936 and 1938 in Alabama and are part of the Library of Congress collection Born in Slavery: Slave Narratives from the Federal Writers' Project, 1936-1938which contains more than 2300 first-person accounts and 500 photographs of former slaves.
One of these accounts as an example (also from Alabama):
Caroline Holland, born in 1849, posted:
One night [in 1861] atter we had all gone to bed I heered a noise at de window, an' when I look up dere wuz a man a climbin' in. He wuz a nigger. I could tell eben do I could scarce see him, I knowed he wuz a nigger. I could hear my mistis a breathin', an' de baby wuz soun' asleep too. I started to yell out but I thought dat de nigger would kill us so I jes' kep' quit. He come in de window, an' he see us a sleepin' dere, an' all of a sudden I knowed who it wuz. 'Jade,' I whispers, 'What you a doin' here?' He come to my bed and put his rough han' ober my mouf.
'Listen you black pickaninny, you tell em dat you saw me here an' I'll kill you,' he say, 'I th'ow yo' hide to de snakes in de swamp. Now shet up.'
Wid dat he went to de dresser an' taken mistis' money bag. Atter dat he went to de window an' climb down de ladder an' I didn't do nothin' but shake myself nearly to death fum fright. De nex' day de oberseer an' de pattyrollers went a searchin' th'ough de slave quarters an' dey foun' de money bag under Jade's cot. Dey tuk him an' whupped him for near fifteen minutes. We could hear him holla way up at de big house. Jade, he neber got ober dat whuppin'. He died three days later. He wuz a good nigger, 'peer to me lak, an' de bes' blacksmith in de whole county. I kep'a-wonderin' whut made him want ter steal dat purse. Den I foun' out later dat he wuz a goin' to pay a white man ter carry him ober de line to de No'thern States. Jade jus' had too big ideas fo' a nigger.
There are even some audio interviews here. The latest one (the one from 1975) later turned out to be a hoax, though.
e: Almost forgot to ask, but I couldn't find out what happened to the plantation owners after the war. They did retain/rebuild their political and economical influence, I guess, but did their milieu dissolve at some point ot are there still planter families around somewhere?
These old WTC advertisements (or in this case, an anti-advertisement) are great. Keep in mind that the son of one of the guys behind this is Douglas Durst, who now owns a controlling stake in the new WTC after he also whipped out a full page ad complaining about the new one.
There were tons of great anti-monarchists in the Civil War period. There was John Lillburne leader of the Levellers the first ever democratic political party in the country.
And there was also Gerrard Winstanley the leader of the Diggers, a group that advocated radical land reform attempting to save common land that was being enroached by enclosures.
"The power of enclosing land and owning property was brought into the creation by your ancestors by the sword; which first did murder their fellow creatures, men, and after plunder or steal away their land, and left this land successively to you, their children. And therefore, though you did not kill or thieve, yet you hold that cursed thing in your hand by the power of the sword; and so you justify the wicked deeds of your fathers, and that sin of your fathers shall be visited upon the head of you and your children to the third and fourth generation, and longer too, till your bloody and thieving power be rooted out of the land."
Guess who this is:
Cant remember his name, but that kid that was forced to go back to cuba. He was 5 or 6. It was a big story. There was that famous photo of some kind of official tearing him away from his family.
Am I right? I think that is him, but at the same time, he looks too old. Doesnt seem like that long ago
It's Elian Gonzalez.
Upon coming back to Cuba, the state treated him like a celebrity and he became all gung-ho about it.
Damn. how old is he? It didnt feel that long ago
Wailing on an AKtar.
he's a former general and graduate of the School of the Americas and did monstrous things during the civil war. Here's his wiki entry:
Pérez is a graduate of Guatemala's National Military Academy (Escuela Politécnica), the School of the Americas and of the Inter-American Defense College. During his time in the army he served in the notoriously brutal special forces (known as the Kaibiles), as director of military intelligence, and inspector-general of the army. In 1983 he was a member of the group of army officers who backed Defence Minister Óscar Mejía's coup d'état against de facto president Efraín Ríos Montt. While serving as chief of military intelligence in 1993, he was instrumental in forcing the departure of President Jorge Serrano after Serrano attempted a "self-coup" by dissolving Congress and appointing new members to the Guatemalan Supreme Court. In the wake of that incident, Guatemala's human rights ombudsman, Ramiro de León Carpio, became president and appointed Pérez as his presidential chief of staff, a position he held until 1995. Considered a leader of the Guatemalan Army faction that favored a negotiated resolution of the 30-year-long Civil War, Perez represented the military in the negotiations with guerrilla forces that led to the 1996 Peace Accords. Between 1998 and 2000 he represented Guatemala on the Inter-American Defense Board.
Genocide and torture allegations
United States' National Security Archives provide evidence of Pérez Molina's involvement in the military dictator Efraín Ríos Montt's scorched earth campaigns of the 1980s. He was put in charge of counterinsurgency in the Ixil Community in 1982-3, when 80-90% of the villages were razed. At least 184 civilians were killed or disappeared during his deployment.  
In July 2011, the indigenous organization Waqib Kej presented a letter to the United Nations accusing Pérez of involvement in genocide and torture committed in Quiché during the Guatemalan Civil War.  Among other evidence, they cited a 1982 documentary in which a military officer whom they claim is Pérez is seen near 4 dead bodies. In the following scene, a subordinate says that those 4 were captured alive and taken "to the Major" (allegedly Pérez Molina) and that "they wouldn't talk, not when we asked nicely and not when we were mean [ni por las buenas ni por las malas]."
Pérez denies his involvement in any atrocities. "I have nothing to hide," he told Reuters and said he was proud of his role in the civil war. Pérez has never been charged with any human rights violations; however, he is the subject of a new investigation into the disappearance of Efraín Bámaca led by Guatemala's top prosecutor. 
Guatemala has been fucked for so long its goddamned depressing. People still get disappeared or killed by "random violence" for speaking out against the government.
2000? If he was six then, that'd put him at 19 this year.
Reindeer in WWII.
And that gun guitar is so fucking awesome. Too bad it's wielded by a shitty human being.
Monticello, Thomas Jefferson's estate, in the fall.
Wrote a paper on the Diggers in college. This is the only time that I've heard anyone mention them outside of a history class.
Egyptian axe, about 3600 years old
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Urinal. Paris. 1875
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they have those in downtown amsterdam nowadays.
Rare vintage photograph of an onna-bugeisha, one of the female warriors of the upper social classes in feudal Japan
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A hundred years ago today, Winston Churchill ordered British, Australian and New Zealand troops to invade Turkey, sending them to an unscale-able beach where they were mowed down like animals.
coincidentally I'm currently reading Dead Wake: The Last Crossing of the Lusitania by Eric Larson (great book btw) and read about this on Friday on the 100th anniversary
On of my fave authors
Some fun facts. The Russians were the ones who tried using dogs as anti-tank weapons (against the Germans)But they were never successful. That black stick you see pointing up on the dogs back was the automatic detonator. At first they didn't have automatic detonators, the dogs had to pull a string that dropped the bomb under the tank, and it never worked. So they added the automatic detonator to solve this issue. Problem was the Russians trained their dogs using Russian tanks, which ran off of diesel fuel. German tanks ran off of gasoline. So in the field, the dog had been trained unknowingly to recognize the smell of the tank. So instead of blowing up German tiger tanks, all they blew up was Russian tanks. I believe the most German tanks they ever blew up in one battle was 8. That battle also had 2500 German tanks in it...
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