Mad Max: Fury Road.

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  1. Emma

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    Also, a fun theory to think about from Reddit

    So I just got done watching Fury Road and have been thinking about the motto scrawled on the wall behind Immortan Joe as he enters the harem chamber - "Who Killed The World?"

    It is apparent that the three main warlords are representative of their chosen "commodity" - water, weapons, & gasoline. But, I believe they actually represent something greater - the cause of the apocalypse itself and each of them is in fact a representation of one of the four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.

    Immortan Joe represents Conquest/Pestilence. We know that he pursues and enslaves people in the Wasteland (i.e. Furiosa's origin) and then turns those conquered people so they view him as god-like and the path to heaven. In this way, he assumes the same duality as the Christian horseman - as both a righteous figure (some interpret Conquest as Jesus spreading the gospel) and an evil figure (some interpret Conquest as a false prophet), and also as an infectious influence like the modern "Pestilence" (he "turns" his slaves into followers).

    IJ and his followers also embody Pestilence by their own bodies. They are covered in festering sores, are misshapen and/or disabled, and have tumors from the nuclear radiation (side note: I find it interesting that Fury Road is the first time Miller has basically beaten everyone over the head with "It was global thermonuclear war, dummies!", when the series has only ever strongly hinted at that before).

    The Bullet Farmer represents War. This is an easy one but hear me out. The Christian horseman isn't simply the embodiment of all war, it is the embodiment of unchecked aggression and "non-righteous" conflict. In a modern sense, War is simply unchecked militarism and internecine warfare. The Bullet Farmer doesn't merely represent these qualities, he actively pursues them. When the rest of the group is stuck in the mud and the three warlords have a talk, The People Eater tells him to wait and not hurt the "wives", but instead he goes riding off alone (unchecked aggression) and fires wildly with no regard to who he hits (collateral damage/internecine warfare/"friendly fire").

    The People Eater represents Famine. "But he's fat!", you say. Read on, this requires more backstory of the Christian horseman. Famine is generally shown carrying weighing scales to measure grain during a famine. When he appears Saint John hears an exclamation on the prices of grain, but it then concludes:

    and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine

    Why does the voice say this? It's generally interpreted to mean that luxury goods should remain unaffected by famine, meaning the rich will not suffer, while the poor will. In this way, Famine also embodies the injustice and gluttony of the rich. We see this reflected in the characters surrounding The People Eater - many will resort to eating mutant salamanders, whereas TPE is extremely obese and has major gout, he is obviously well-fed.

    TPE also embodies Famine in his name. Throughout history there are recurring episodes of cannibalism practiced by people who were not getting enough nutrients.

    So, I bet you're wondering "who's the fourth Horsemen???"....it's Max. Max is Death. Nowhere is this more clear than Max's visions of the dead people he has been unable to "save". He carries the dead with him, leaves people dead in his own path, but can also never be killed himself. Max and Death are both remorseless forces of nature, and that is especially true in Fury Road.

    Well, that's my theory. Hope you all enjoyed it.

    EDIT: goodbye inbox! This thread blew up overnight. Lots of discussion here but some think I'm overanalyzing a very simple action movie. I think it's perfectly fine to view Fury Road as a simple summer blockbuster popcorn flick. I really enjoyed the movie for those reasons too. But, once I left the theater, the themes of the movie really struck a chord with me. Fury Road, while packed with action, really isn't a fun and happy movie like most summer blockbusters. That's why I put the sidenote in about nuclear war. It's not that Miller hasn't pointed it out before, it's that Miller is pointing out the effects of nuclear war. The mutations, the sickness, the spoiled earth and bad water. In the end, Furiousa and crew are "saved" but the world is still dead. Fury Road is a funeral dirge for the modern world. When one of the women talks about how the old world had shows, how everyone had enough, how you didn't have to kill....Miller is taking directly to the viewer. "This could happen. If we Fuck up, this could happen to us." And I think it's a mistake to not analyze that, to throw that away simply because of the movie's genre.

    EDIT2: Another sidenote - did anyone else notice that, as they were putting on IJ's breastplate, he had an MFP Badge? Did he take that from one he killed or was he perhaps an MFP Officer like Max before? Discuss.

    EDIT3: /u/madgadabout expounds on what the death of the three warlords represents here. Really great point.
     
  2. BrickTamland

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    Still the most accurate post ITT.

    Send your wife out for wine night with the girls, she's going to hate this movie.
     
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  3. MANPOW

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    Bout to RPX 3d :cool:
     
  4. spagett

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    Thought it was really entertaining.
     
  5. Hoss Bonaventure

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    Just got back. So good and I'm going to be seeing it again in theaters.
     
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    It was awesome, I need to see it again. The whole time I couldn't stop thinking about how they filmed it.
     
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  7. Emma

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    All the cars and stunts were real and working.

    • Those people on the swinging poles? REAL.

    • Flaming guitar guy blasting music? REAL and it actually played music.

    • Explosions? REAL (touched up with CGI to make them standout against the sand)

    • Motorbike jumps? REAL

    ────────

    For some scenes fist-fighting on top of the truck Greenscreen was used, because really you cant actually fist-fight on a speeding truck. The scenes in the citadel also had CG backgrounds (the giant cogs/lift were real, but the cave behind wasnt) same with giant Immortan Joe symbol carved into the mountain.

    They also digitally removed harnesses and wires (like when Max is upside down off the truck)

    Behind the footage

     
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  8. OHW

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    Yeah, Avatar popped into my head while I was watching it and how that was such a "cinematic achievement". All that was was assholes jumping around in front of green screens on a sound stage.
     
  9. RonBurgundy

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    If I've never seen the originals could I just see this and understand what's happening/enjoy it?
     
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  10. OHW

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    yes
     
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  11. IHHH

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    Yes, you might not enjoy it but it would have nothing to do with not seeing the old Mad Max movies.
     
  12. RonBurgundy

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    This or Avengers?
     
  13. -Prime-

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    This
     
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  14. VaxRule

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    Mad Max was better than Ultron.
     
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  15. *DIESEL*

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    I preferred mad max by a decent amount.
     
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  16. Hoss Bonaventure

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    Gf is starting to work on my Immortan Joe costume for Halloween.
     
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  17. Emma

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    Mad Max shows you how average Avengers is
     
  18. GuyOnA_Buffalo

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    With such a petrol shortage, you'd think they'd have more fuel efficient vehicles.
     
  19. MANPOW

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    Really wanna play Twisted Metal right now
     
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  20. paulski

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    I went to see Avengers 2 yesterday... whilst it wasn't bad, I'd be really disappointed if Mad Max wasn't quite a bit better.
     
  21. BrickTamland

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    I'd like to know how much gasoline was consumed in the production of this movie.

    Mad max: Fury Road
    2015 carbon footprint award recipient
     
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  22. Teflon Queen

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    Avengers is more of a kid friendly movie...not very comparable
     
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  23. TheChad

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    I can already picture groups of sluts dressed as the reproductives for Haloween
     
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  24. Jax Teller

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    And I won't complain at all.
     
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  26. lazy bum

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    whenever this question arises, the answer is always "nah".

    this movie was almost perfect. Sat there with a stupid grin on my face for 2 hours.
     
  27. OopsPowSurprise

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    not true - need to consider how it was originally filmed. usually yeah its a no go and a money grab, but some films had 3d filming and i'd rather see it the way the director intended imo
     
  28. Gunners

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    Elvis' granddaughter was in it

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  29. miles

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    she fine
     
  30. lazy bum

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    there has yet to be a 3D movie I'd prefer to see in 3D, even when the director may have intended.

    Hell, the only one I can think of outside of dumb horror movies that probably really put forth the effort for his actual vision is Cameron for Avatar, and I still prefer the 2D version of that.
     
  31. *DIESEL*

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    I thought they did a really solid job with the 3D. Not sure how it was filmed, but usually, for me, in 3D movies, I end up kinda forgetting that I'm watching 3D. Like after an hour or so into the movie, it doesn't really stand out anymore. Ends up feeling like a waste of money.

    That didn't happen for me during this movie. Imo, the 3D stood out the whole time. Shit was legit.
     
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  32. Emma

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    Go 2D

    Watch 3D on your second time around if/when you get the urge.

    The movie wasn't like most in 3D, but you will encounter some brightness degrading.

    Can be overwhelming as well, or at least for me it was. There's a handful of times where it's cool to watch in 3D, but I fully recommend 2D to take all the glory in.
     
  33. Gunners

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    The 3D is fantastic, you won't be disappointed.

    Think I'm gonna see it in regular RPX this week, believe this is the first movie I'll see in theaters multiple times. Loved it so much.
     
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    agree to disagree - not gonna clog this thread about the merits of 3D/2D/IMAX
     
  35. Emma

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    The best part of the 3D experience was when

    Nux crashed the Tatra 6x6 into the overpass, causing the rocks to collapse. When Guitar Hero's vehicle ate shit, his guitar flung forward right into your face and snapped back just as you had the urge to reach out and grab it
     
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  36. Emma

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    Also, I got a free pass to any movie within 180 days last night.

    The left speakers went out for a little more than 1 minute during the movie. Fortunately, this was my second time seeing it (in 3D this time) and you could hear everything that was being said (just a bit more distorted).

    Should I see it a third time? I am thinking no, because I want to relive the movie when it's released.

    There's Star Wars, Jurassic World, Black Mass, Mission: Impossible
     
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  38. VaxRule

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    Definitely 3D
     
  39. Teflon Queen

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    I was pissed there wasn't a Star Wars preview at mine...Jurrassic World looks terrible though...so much shit cgi
     
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    Didn't even realized I had bought a 3d ticket shit just completely overwhelmed me

    Amazing but I was exhausted afterwards two hours of just crazy shit
     
  41. VaxRule

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    I got an Ant-Man preview.
     
  42. TheChad

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    or fuel efficient guitars



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    En route to the theater

    Dick in hand already
     
  44. Joe_Pesci

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    I saw this today. In 3D, inadvertently. It was awesome.

    I rolled my eyes at the Bane voice a few times.
     
  45. TheGrifter

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    I'm normally anti-3D, but this was one of the best uses of the technology I've ever seen. It was subtle and only used to add an extra layer of depth.

    Would recommend 3D.
     
  46. Emma

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    My eyes' acceptance to 3D evidently suck
     
  47. Wu

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    Wow wow wow

    Exhausted after leaving the theater. Good God almighty what an experience.
     
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  48. Corch

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    Wait.

    You're mad that a movie that's about dinosaurs has a lot of cgi?

    :roll:
     
  49. Nizz

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    Her husband is the guitar player
     
  50. Joe_Pesci

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    the original used a lot of robots, which is why it's held up so well
     
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