Official Gardening/Homesteading thread: Our back yards are our grocery stores

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  1. Nug

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    Got everything in the ground over the weekend, now to wait.

    Went with:
    -4 bell pepper plants (2 red and 2 green)
    -2 jalapeno plants
    -2 cherry tomato plants
    -2 zucchini
    -2 squash plants
    -2 eggplant

    Not nearly as packed as I thought it would be in a 6x4, but I'll wait and see when they start growing.

    Anything to be on the look out for immediately after planting?
     
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  2. BIGASSTITTIES

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    sounds like you may be over crowded when everything matures methinks
     
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  3. StevieJanowski

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    It does sound a little crowded (easy to do at planting time when everything looks so small). Even using a square foot gardening method, the zucchini and squash (depending on variety) can eat up a ton of square footage. One tip with those cherry tomatoes would be to keep them in the back and potentially trellis them the best you can. The nice thing about a cherry tomato in a small space garden is you can train them to grow vertical and not take up too much space.
     
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  4. Nug

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    Thanks. I have the tomato completely encircled by a trellis, so hoping it grows straight up.

    I did the squash and zucchini near the edge and am hoping that if they grow according to plan, I can have them grow into my yard and won't have to stay in the 6x4 box
     
  5. bigred77

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    someone told me to periodically lift up the leaves of the tomato as they grow out of the trellis to make them rest up higher then their natural spot they chose, it helps keep the plant going up instead of out
     
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  6. StevieJanowski

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    I think the seed packet for my Super Sweet 100 cherry tomatoes says a height of 5-6', but growing them in both Texas and Minnesota, I've had the plants reaching a good 6-8' by the end of the year. Some folks say you can top them to concentrate more energy on larger fruit, but I've always had nice size cherry tomatoes without ever topping the plants. :idk:
     
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  7. Open Carry

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    Think I got my garden planned

    Cherry
    Sun sugar
    Black cherry
    Riesentraube​
    Heirloom
    Paul Robeson
    Orange strawberry oxheart
    Brandy wine red​
    Tomatillo
    Toma verde​
    Peppers
    Early jalapeƱo
    Thai dragon​
     
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  8. Taques

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    Ordered some more pepper seeds from spain: http://www.semillas.de/shop_en/

    fantastic prices, but takes 2 weeks, and some people have reported that customs occasionally seizes seeds (i guess because its shipped from the canary islands?). figured it was worth the risk for the cheap seeds - got them today and they all seem to be there:
    rocoto san isidro
    jay's peach ghost scorpion
    pimenta de neyde
    numex suave orange
    fidalgo roxa
    queen laurie
    7 pot white
    chupetinho/biquinho (sweetie drops)
    mako akokosrade

    most of these are gonna be saved for next season, but put some sweetie drops, suave orange, and rocotos in some soil tonight
     
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  9. bigred77

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    Welp, fuck me, i guess it didnt like being planted

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  10. Taques

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    should start one from seed imo
     
  11. lhprop1

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    We'll have to compare notes on the Paul Robeson tomatoes. Apparently, it's all the rage amongst tomato nerds.
     
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  12. Doug

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    I think next year I'm going to grow a wider variety of crops and start from seeds.
     
  13. Nug

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    Approx when would you need to start seeds if you're shooting for a fall planting? Guess it depends on your area, but think I'm gonna try to start some seeds for a fall harvest. It doesn't get cold until late Nov/early Dec down here
     
  14. bigred77

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    What is the advantage here?
    Ive never done much more with seeds then throw a packet in the ground
     
  15. Taques

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    i feel like you have an easier time transplanting but that may just be anecdotal
     
  16. bigred77

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    Thats probably because you had spent more time getting to know the plant
     
  17. billdozer

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    Bees were on my peach tree today.

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  18. Cheshire Bridge

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    Flavor profiled for these? Sounds awesome
     
  19. Taques

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    suave orange's flavor is very similar to a habanero but with only a little heat. it's a strain that new mexico state univ cultivated. would be good to make habanero sauces for people without a high heat tolerance

    sweetie drops are really good pickled, sweet and tangy without any heat. these are awesome with salad greens and pasta salads

    jays peach ghost scorprion is (obviously) a cross between a ghost pepper and trinidad scorpion that is supposed to be slightly sweet but still a superhot

    rocoto san isidro is a C. pubescens so its pretty unique. ive never eaten one of the rocoto species but ive read that they are pretty crunchy, juicy, and slightly fruity. this one in particular is pretty hot - on par with a red habanero. rocotos are supposedly harder to grow and need a long season so we will see what happens

    i dont actually know what pimenta de neyde is supposed to taste like - i got it because the plant and peppers grow purple. also got the fidalgo roxa because it was a good looking plant (i think these are both around habanero level heat)

    queen laury is about as hot as a jalapeno and supposedly good to make sauce with

    white 7pot is slightly less hot compared to other 7pots, but is still really hot. i got it because they look really cool and are very productive for a pepper of that heat level

    mako akokosrade was one that got thrown in there for free, but the internet says its about as hot as a red habanero
     
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  20. One Two

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    Checking in for the Paul Robeson Party. Grew one last year. Fantastic flavor, shitty production. Got a seedling from a different source this time, hopefully it'll be more robust




    Hot peppers in containers > hot peppers in the ground

    They HATE wet feet, and will be much healthier and happier planted in a container. Miracle grow potting mix is ok, but Fafard or similar with a little coco noir mixed in is perfect for peppers. As far as fertilizer, they thrive with neptune's 2-3-1 and cal mag. You can mix some tomato tone in with the soil medium as well.

    Thanks,

    One Two
     
  21. One Two

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    I'll piggy back on the hot pepper planting in container by adding they will do fine in clay pots. The economical route is 5 gallon utility buckets (like at Wal mart) with holes drilled in the bottom. They love smart pots though
     
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  22. Open Carry

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    I'm planning on doing my pepper plants in pots. I've used fox farm for soil before with other plants with excellent results.
     
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  23. billdozer

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    Tilled my garden and put black plastic out over it to keep weeds out for now. Going to plant watermelon and cantaloupe through the plastic. Going to figure out what to do for everything else. Weeds have taken over the garden the last 2 years, going to try and improve on that this year.

    Also, getting more bees on Saturday.
     
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  24. Doug

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    Never did peppers in pots before, may need to try
     
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  25. One Two

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    It's the only way. Trust me
     
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  26. Russellin4885

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    For those thinking about planting looks like we are going to get another good shot of cold air late next week, moving in around the 30th and hanging around for a few days possibly. Looks like this is going to effect most of the country. Might want to hold off planting or at least be aware that you might have to cover your stuff next week.
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  27. Doug

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    Looks like I'll be planting April 2nd
     
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  28. lhprop1

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    Are those temps on the right? If so, are those in Celsius or American?
     
  29. Russellin4885

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    Departures from average but in American, this far out it'd be tough to nail down exact temperatures but there is a good chance of a significant cold shot for most of the country in the March 30 - April 2nd time frame.
     
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  30. lhprop1

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    That's no biggie, then. Wife and I will be on the north shore of Lake Superior next weekend. 18 degrees below the norm will still be in the high teens/low 20s. I've got no problem sitting in the outdoor hot tub in that. If it was -18, we might have an issue.

    It's going to make going from the hot tub into Lake Superior a lot more eye opening, though.
     
  31. RedNole

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    So my wife is asking me to build some above ground planter boxes for her to plant some veggies/herbs. Anyone recommend a style of box to build/plans? This is our intro in to gardening so I fully assume we will fuck it up.
     
  32. Russellin4885

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    I'm probably going to hold off until middle of April. Looks like we are going to get into a very cool pattern for the first half of April. This is the modeling for April 1st - April 7th, if this occurs we will be looking at colder temperatures than we just had this past weekend for most of the east coast. Obviously not everyone on here lives in the east but this pattern is going to effect most of the country.

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  33. Boar Skarloff

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    I've got lettuce, spinach, radishes and carrots about an inch tall. Thinned em out a little this past weekend.
     
  34. billdozer

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    I put my name on the local extension office call list for honeybee swarms. Got a call this afternoon and went over and got the bees. When she called, she said they were on her lawn chair, but when I got their, they had moved like 2 minutes earlier. Made it a lot harder, but I got them still. Probably $250 dollars work of bees. The swarm was about the size of 2-3 basketballs.

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  35. billdozer

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    After getting the swarm yesterday, I went and picked up 2 packages of bees that I ordered and put them in hives.
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    I also moved the swarm into a bigger box. I also found out today that this swarm was from one of my Dad's friends hives. He watched them fly off and lives nearby where I picked them up at. I offered to give them back to him, but he said finders keepers.
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  36. Weedlord420

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    i love this thread and really need to hustle on some ideas

    Taques take pics of your pepper growing set up bud
     
  37. Taques

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    it's an apollo 600w HPS bulb underneath my office desk

    pic from today (gave everyone a really aggressive haircut in preparation for going outside as the canopy was getting too thick):

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  38. je ne suis pas ici

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    what are these? I found these in my pine island when i was transplanting some azeleas maybe 18-24 inches under the ground. this is near a tree stump i cut down last year so i dont know if it is cancerous/rotting roots or wild sweet potatoes or what
    thinking its just tumors on roots

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  39. AIP

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    possible it's a canna.......... it looks like a bulb of some sort though
     
  40. fetumpsh

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    To me they look more like tubers than bulbs. Not much of a distinction, just changes what might grow from them.
     
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  41. texasraider

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    My orange tree has tons of blooms this year but I haven't seen any bees yet. Am I citrusly screwed?
     
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  42. billdozer

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  43. billdozer

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    Also, here's one of my bees on my blueberries.

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  44. CraigAnne Conway

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    I think I'm going to build a raised garden bed in the back yard at my new house.
    Any tips or suggestions before I just go buy wood and build it?

    Also if anyone has done this, please post pics if you can for ideas
     
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  45. AIP

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    it's all about the dirt, get good dirt to start with

    Make sure you have lots of sun


    what is the critter situation like ?
     
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  46. CraigAnne Conway

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    Not a lot. Just occasional rabbits
     
  47. AIP

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    wow, mine just have buds on them
     
  48. Open Carry

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    Don't do what I did and onky use top soil. If you go back to posts in this thread from May or June of last year you'll see my raised bed project. I had to level the whole area first using top soil and used that in the bed as well instead of using something with a little more organic material in it. I should have mixed in compost or something.
     
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  49. AIP

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    as AU3kGT said it's all about soil. I made the mistake of just buying the $1 a bag top soil to start with and my 1st year the garden really didn't do much. Over the years I have added some sand, compost, manure and the crops are great now. If I could redo it all I would have bought the $5 a bag good organic soil.
     
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  50. billdozer

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