I don't know that it was mishandled I think Cavs fans for the most part just severly overrated what it would be worth
They didn't move it early in the offseason when teams we're trying to shed contracts to make room for max free agents. Instead of taking the best offer, assuming they even had any, they held out and gambled on getting something worth while later. They gambled and lost. It happens.
Disagree. I've said all along I didn't think we'd be getting much for it and Marlo said a month ago before free agency had started he thought we'd get a trade exception for it. People wanting to believe we were getting Jamal Crawford or Joe Johnson or whatever were just overestimating it and its easier to say the front office screwed up
They were engaged in talks for it early in FA. That much has been reported already. Pretty hard to argue they misplayed their hand. I think they would have had a better chance to move it in combination with something else prior to the draft. The longer it dragged on the less likely they were to get anything of value out of it. A trade exception is nothing to sneeze at. Assuming they can make a deal this week they are essentially just giving themeselves more time to bring on another piece during the next season.
What was reported, is that the Cavs were interested in those deals. Each time those reports popped up my response was well of course they are but is the other team I share Corchs concern on the trade exception. I'm happy to have it because it gives another year to figure something out but I'm just not sure what assets they'd move to add anyone
Dude, congrats on being correct. I'm not saying they had those guys in the bag or that the just failed to pull the trigger on those deals. Obviously they need the other teams to be interested. The time to make a move was at the beginning of the offseason. They weren't going to get shit once the major dominos fell in the offseason.
I'm just saying I'm not sure there was ever anything more than this on the table so if that's the case they didn't really mismanage it. They kept trying to see if they could get something more than just an exception and came back to it Just trying to cut the FO a break because I'm not sure there was ever a better option
Trading for a guy specifically as a trade chip because his contract is non-guaranteed and eventually doing nothing with it is not mismanagement?
I was talking about this off season what they did I don't recall what they trade was that brought him in and don't think we really gave anything up for him but if we gave up anything of value then yes I agree. However I think it was 2nd. If we didn't give up anything of any real value to get him it was pretty low risk and was taking a flier we'd be able to get something eventually and I don't really see anything wrong with that.
And you said yourself not to discount the trade exception. I don't have high hopes for it but if we end up not and it turns out we moved a 2nd round pick and eventually got nothing back is it a big deal as opposed to a guy sitting on the bench who would never play for us
@WojYahooNBA Cleveland has traded Brendan Haywood and Mike Miller to Portland, league source tells Yahoo Sports. @WojYahooNBA Portland will send two second-round picks to Cleveland, league sources tells Yahoo Sports. @WojYahooNBA Cleveland gains a $13.35M trade exception in the deal. The Cavs will have one year to use it.
We have plenty of 2nd's to trade. Hopefully someone with an expensive veteran will be looking to unload cap space in prep for 2016
@WojYahooNBA To be accurate on trade exceptions, they cannot be combined. Cleveland will have two exceptions -- $10.5M and $2.85M.
Now Windhorst and the ABJ guy are saying the 2nds are headed to Portland not Cleveland. 2019 better of TWolves and Lakers 2nd and 2020 Cavs 2nd
lol what the fuck are we going to use as trade material? We can't trade our 2017 first because we traded our 2016 first, right?
That's what I have been talking with a buddy about by text. I like that we're extending our window to do something but unless someone is just doing a flat out salary dump we have nothing to tempt them
I've been generally impressed with Griffin so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. I think our best chance would be getting into a 3 team deal
Yes. The better of the 2 Orlando has right to swap picks in 2019 2nds between Houston and Cleveland (both owed to NY) and whichever 2 Orlando doesn't end up with goes to NY.
Yeah worst case scenario is it runs out a year from now without being used and we gave up Scottie Hopson and cash for nothing
I'm surprised we haven't heard anything on Tristan getting close to a deal. I mean Tristan brings a lot to the team and he's one of Lebron's guys but paying him more than 15M/yr would be dumb.
You know what is going to be terrible? Like 5 years from now when Lebron retires, Love leaves, Kyrie leaves, and we have nothing else in the pipeline.
Pretty good info here https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast...Brian+Windhorst+w%2F+The+Golden+Boyz&ext=.mp3
Cleveland PD reporting Kyrie could be out until January. Dammit. Would rather he not come back until he's 100% though, even if it means missing 1/3 of year.
SLAM Magazine @SLAMonline 44s45 seconds ago Tristan Thompson is Not Attending LeBron James' Voluntary Cavs Workouts in Miami http://slam.ly/WipoSD
Tristan wants $94 mil. Cavs want to give $80. This whole thing is ridiculous and wouldn't even really be possible if Rich paul wasn't one of Bron's boys. This thing is gonna drag out for a long time. http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/1...millions-apart-start-training-camp-approaches
Hell, $80 mil is ridiculous IMO. He holds us hostage a bit because the franchise wants to keep Bron happy (I guess that also means keeping Rich Paul happy???)
He was going to get overpaid regardless, so I'm ok with that. definitely more palatable than 5/94 or whatever that rumor was