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  1. tmbrules

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    save your money
     
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  2. texasraider

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    I'm in for $700.
     
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  3. Bruce Wayne

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    Anybody have a Financial Times sub?
     
  4. allothersnsused

    allothersnsused Wow that’s crazy
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    Cool, so the fed is going to raise rates right as I pay off my student loans and start looking to buy a house.
     
  5. je ne suis pas ici

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    Federal Reserve policymakers on Wednesday kept the central bank’s benchmark short-term interest rate near zero, opting against the first increase since 2006 after determining the economy still isn’t strong enough to handle it.

    Fed officials sharply downgraded their economic forecast for this year. They projected the economy would grow between 1.8% and 2% this year, well below the range of 2.3% to 2.7% in its last forecast in March.

    Given the slow start to the year, and inflation that remains low because of the decline in oil prices, many analysts had expected the Fed would not raise rates until at least September. Some economists have said they don’t think the Fed will raise the rate until next year.

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    glad i went variable on my student loan refi.

    3.8% bitch!
     
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  6. allothersnsused

    allothersnsused Wow that’s crazy
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    Went variable a year ago and it's paying off. Scheduled to be done next September so, at this point, even a big hike won't affect me all that much. Still gonna hit me right in the mortgage though.

    :getmoneyfuckbitches:
     
  7. Cheshire Bridge

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    Oh man. I'm basically playing roulette here haha. Still don't think they default this time.
     
  8. je ne suis pas ici

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    think they are
     
  9. je ne suis pas ici

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    and, selfishly, kinda hope so

    KEEP THOSE INTEREST RATES DOWN BITCH! WOO FREE MONEY
     
  10. two

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    Any of you do real estate investing? Dying to get into multi-family homes...
     
  11. Cheshire Bridge

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    Just opened a trade king account. Good move?
     
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  12. je ne suis pas ici

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    hmm, greece likely to be ok

    but lol raising corporate and the VAT... gonna have a shit ton of growth because of that
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    Pensions
    The plan includes a restriction on early-retirement options from this year, saving €60m this year and €30m next year. The measure will accelerate a clampdown that was previously going to be phased in over several years.

    An increase in pension contributions will raise €350m this year and €800m next year, while a higher health contribution from retirees will raise €135m this year and €510m in 2016.

    Tax
    A rise in VAT will generate €380m this year and €1.3bn in 2016.

    Income tax rates remain intact, but a solidarity supplement on top of the main rate that was brought in after the crash is to rise, raising €220m this year.

    Corporations are to be clobbered with a surcharge of 12% on profits above €500,000. Corporation tax also rises to 29% next year from 26%, raising €410m.
     
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  13. Cheshire Bridge

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    YOLO got in at 8cents
     
  14. Joe Louis

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    RUskoolie
     
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  15. texasraider

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    got in at $0.06 :warn:
     
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  16. Baseballman86

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    Good move. I use TradeKing. One of the cheapest costs per trade out there. For the avg investor (90% of us), I don't see why you'd need anything else.
     
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  17. Cheshire Bridge

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    Bet on Greece imo...
     
  18. Cheshire Bridge

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    Gimme some plays, folks. Need some betting action since all sports betting is over until august....
     
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  19. Jax Teller

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    Keep in mind that ticket prices and basically every cost associated with making movies have skyrocketed as well.
     
  20. allothersnsused

    allothersnsused Wow that’s crazy
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    I just transferred a couple hundred to my Robinhood account YOLO.
     
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  21. Baseballman86

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    Oh for sure, but even with all that I'd still be shocked if they don't get a boost.

    The only potential "gotcha" I see is that previous years may have had more mid range movies that added to the total, whereas 2015 is setting up to be top heavy with blockbusters. I would still guess (not based in any actual data) that blockbusters drive better sales for theaters. Those bring kids and merchandising and with those come big concessions purchases.

    Ps, AMC is back up to where I bought now and I also just remembered it's currently sporting a 2.6% dividend as those posted today.
     
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  22. je ne suis pas ici

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    they are fairly far off, especially on their fucked up entitlements

    Greek crisis: deal unravels both sides reject reform measures before crunch finance ministers meeting

    VAT

    Greece: 0.74pc in tax rises from 2016, with some end to exemptions of highest 23pc band
    Creditors: 1pc of GDP, with an elimination of all exemptions for highest 23pc band

    Defence cuts

    Greece: €200m in cuts in 2016
    Creditors: €400m in cuts in 2016

    Pensions
    Greece: 0.4pc in cuts, through early retirement reforms from 2016; increases in social security contribution. Healthcare contributions at 4pc. Gradual phasing out of supplementary pensions for the poorest
    Creditors: 1pc in cuts. Early retirement plans to be enforced as of July 1. Total and immediate phasing out of supplementary pensions. Healthcare contributions rise to 6pc

    Corporate taxes
    Greece: special 29pc rate on corporate profits, and special levy of 12pc for earnings over €0.5m
    Creditors: corporate tax rate to be reduced to 28pc.
     
  23. je ne suis pas ici

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    i cannot fathom a VAT in America. ever. fucking europe.

    and remember, all those reforms listed above have to be voted on by greece's batshit crazy parliament

    greece's GDP is shit. with 2x the amount of people of ALABAMA their gdp is only slightly above it and barely half the same per capita GDP

    i say that to say a few billion here and there is an incredibly large number for a state like Alabama and by extension Greece
     
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  24. RUskoolie

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    Multi-family? Have 25% for downpayment. Maybe 20% if you're lucky. Or you can move there and do as low as 3% FHA. What are your questions?
     
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  25. je ne suis pas ici

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    Greece? Well.... bye
     
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  26. Cheshire Bridge

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    I'll start 'worrying' Monday morning.
     
  27. je ne suis pas ici

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    Euro-area finance ministers rejected Greece’s request for a one-month extension of its aid program, which expires Tuesday, shutting down any last chance for a financial stopgap until the referendum is held.

    After withdrawing more than 30 billion euros as the anti-austerity Coalition of the Radical Left, or Syriza, took power, depositors are now reacting to the latest twist in the five-month standoff with European leaders and creditors. One banker said 110 million euros had been withdrawn from his institution as of 11:30 a.m. Athens time on Saturday.
     
  28. Cheshire Bridge

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    Meh. I'm on the hook for $300. I'll still believe it when I see it.
     
  29. je ne suis pas ici

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  30. je ne suis pas ici

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    It was more or less impossible for Greek banks to open tomorrow, once the European Central Bank announced it was turning off emergency lending to them.

    Because in the absence of any increase in this so called Emergency Liquidity Assistance, the banks had no way to supply cash to Greek depositors who have been anxiously withdrawing their savings.

    And, to state the obvious, banks that run out of cash are kaput.

    So for banks to re-open, restrictions - known as capital controls - have to be put in place on the amount depositors can take out.

    When these restrictions are announced, Greece will be half a step nearer to exit from the euro - since a core rule of the eurozone is that there should be no restrictions on the movement of money or capital.

    Euro exit not inevitable
    But tumbling out of the euro would not be inevitable - as Cyprus shows: the Cypriot government introduced limits on how much cash could be taken out of banks in 2013, and has since taken steps to mend its finances while remaining in the euro.

    The temporary closure of banks in Greece, and the expected introduction of capital controls, is however very bad news for Greece: Greek people will have less money to spend and business less to invest; so an already weak economy will probably return to deep recession.

    As for the impact on the rest of the eurozone, corporate treasurers and wealthy individuals will wake up on Monday wondering if their money is safe in the banks of other weaker eurozone economies.

    So in the coming weeks and months, capital may seep out of the likes of Portugal, Spain and Italy - at potentially significant long term cost to those economies.
     
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  31. Frank Martin

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    Not a good look so far today.
     
  32. RUskoolie

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    Anyone with any thoughts on the China stock bubble? The stories I've read scream insane bubble and I just bought some puts in an ETF but thinking of dropping a few grand into another: YANG, a triple short ETF.
     
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  33. Cheshire Bridge

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    Win some lose some
     
  34. Beachy Toast

    Beachy Toast He wants you too, Malachi.
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    The volatility index I put in on Friday is already up 25% on Greece. :shocker:
     
  35. Joe Louis

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    VXX? was thinking I should thrown some money at that last week ...
     
  36. Beachy Toast

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    TVIX; I'm gonna be watching the news like a hawk the rest of the week, as it can have huge price swings. But based on how the Euros keep shouting at each other and Greece isn't paying tomorrow, it should be an interesting week.
     
  37. Joe Louis

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    Interesting that the market opened up today ... maybe an opportunity to double down on your VIX stuff, with the Valaryian Doom that is Puerto Rico on the horizon ...
     
  38. allothersnsused

    allothersnsused Wow that’s crazy
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    Almost all my stuff is in indexes and they're all killing me. My only good investment since I started moving money into the market at the beginning of this year has been TSLA.
     
  39. Cheshire Bridge

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    I'm down 32%. And that's only bc the market is closed until July 6.
     
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  40. Joe Louis

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    I'm in cash ... I like cash ...
     
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  41. Rabid

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    Lol. Of my non-retirement investments: 45% cash, 39% hedge fund, 5% Bonds, 4% Large Cap, 3% Small Cap, 3% International
     
  42. Cheshire Bridge

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    Talk to me about the hedge fund...
     
  43. Rabid

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    I would, but then I would have to kill you.
     
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  44. Cheshire Bridge

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    Yolo.. I want in...
     
  45. Rabid

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    [​IMG]
     
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  46. The Banks

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    Gonna be an interesting week or two
     
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  47. Frank Martin

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    This is my first year investing myself because all my retirement went to my pension. Wish robinhood had existed years ago so I could have capitalized on all that growth. Feels like I'm starting at the worst time.
     
  48. Joe Louis

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    your entrance today will have little impact on your growth over the next 30 years IMO. stay disciplined, investing is a long term proposition ...
     
  49. Joe Louis

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    WSJ article I'm reading makes it seem PR is pretty close to a restructuring deal for their power authority. still fucked probably but buying some time at least ...
     
  50. Cheshire Bridge

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    I knew Greece wasn't that dumb. Theyre accepting a 2 year deal.