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  1. CF3234

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    would go a long way to smoothing relations with the fanbase. However, the fact that every contract being signed right now starts low then balloons after 2 years is very odd/disturbing
     
  2. danny2430

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    Typical behavior

    Tank and the players are gone at the trade deadline

    They were openly taking offers on Ozuna and Jose...fuck these guys
     
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    They were taking offers but we're asking for a kings ransom for Jose

    Ozuna wasn't going to be shipped unless we got a legit starter back, was obvious after we told the Mariners to fuck off with that bullshit offer
     
  4. Jack Parkman

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    I really pray these queers are expecting to sell the franchise in 2 years
     
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  5. CF3234

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    Marlins sign Jose to a 1 year 2.8 million deal. Sucks they couldn't get a long term deal done, but it is a good sign that it didn't have to go to arbitration
     
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    I cant believe Jose/Boras agreed to 2.8MM
     
  7. danny2430

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    This is just to avoid going to court, offer right in the middle of the arbitration figures

    Long term deal wasn't gonna happen
     
  8. CF3234

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    yea, but the marlins are notorious for taking players to arbitration and only hurt feelings happen at arbitration
     
  9. Jack Parkman

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    Marlins officially sign 2B Dee Gordon to five-year contract extension. Deal is worth $50 million. (via @FOXSports)
     
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    former beat writer, Juan C. Rodriguez died tonight of cancer. Was a good reporter and a good guy. Cancer sucks
     
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    yeah I saw that, thats awful
     
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    Such a little cocksucker

    Marlins Prez David Samson on having Scott Boras on dais at Chen press conference: Always good to see him in person instead of the newspaper.
     
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    for the love of god, please tear down the old walls completely. Citi Field looks awful because they half assed it
     
  18. Jack Parkman

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    ESPN did their annual farm system rankings

    We were 29th out of 30

    :facepalm:
     
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    :shocker: Who was last?
     
  20. Jack Parkman

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    Angels
     
  21. Jack Parkman

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    So a combo of Preston Wilson, Eduardo Perez and al leiter are taking tommy huttons spot

    I guess leiter is no longer doing Yankees games? I thought he was pretty good
     
  22. Jack Parkman

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    The #Marlins indeed have agreement w/ Craig Breslow, as @bradfo reports. Gives much-needed lefty depth. Wouldn't be stunned if he makes it.
     
  23. Jack Parkman

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    Next on #Marlins shopping list, a starter. Realistic: one of these three - Lohse, Simon, Harang. Longshots: Lincecum, Lee
     
  24. Jack Parkman

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    ### The Marlins haven’t guaranteed Jarred Cosart anything, even indicating a willingness to send him to the minors if he doesn’t win a rotation spot. But let’s be clear: The Marlins would feel a lot better about their rotation if he thrives this spring and wins the No. 4 job, behind Jose Fernandez, Wei Yin Chen andTom Koehler.

    But here’s the question: Is the 25-year-old Cosart the pitcher who went 13-11, with a 3.69 ERA for Houston and Miami in 30 starts in 2014, or closer to the one who went 2-5 with a 4.52 ERA in 13 starts last year during a season disrupted by vertigo?

    One encouraging sign: Batters hit just .231 against him in 2014, after his July trade to Miami, and .243 last season.

    “At my best, I’ve shown I can beat the best,” he said. “I showed in 2014 what I could do. I feel great, haven’t had any vertigo symptoms.”

    He said his first-ever bout with vertigo last year “was pretty unbearable. It was like a really drunk feeling, everything spinning.”

    Symptoms subsided by September after “therapy, rehab, lots of head exercises, following laser points with my eyes, lots of crazy stuff. The doctor said I don’t have to worry about it any more.”

    ### Of the other contenders for the final two rotation spots, Adam Conley (4-1, 3.76) impressed the Marlins the most last year, though some internally believe Justin Nicolino (5-4, 4.01) has the higher ceiling. Edwin Jackson (4-3, 3.07) was far more effective as a reliever last year than as a starter the previous two, but the Marlins would be comfortable with him as a No. 5. David Phelps (4-8, 4.50, missed final seven weeks with stress fracture in forearm) can’t be discounted.

    Kendry Flores (1-2, 4.97) and Jose Urena (1-5, 5.25) are long shots and it would be a bad sign if perennially disappointing Brad Hand is in the rotation.

    ### Don Mattingly has no more important decision than deciding whether he wants AJ Ramos or Carter Capps pitching the ninth.

    Ramos converted 32 of 36 save chances last season, with a 2.30 ERA and .184 average against, but allowed six home runs in 70 innings and said he stressed out his parents by getting himself into difficult situations too often.

    “This is nothing new to me,” Ramos said of needing to win the closer’s job again. “Nothing ever comes easy to me. My whole life, I’ve had to work my butt off.”

    Capps was usually jaw-droppingly dominant (.168 average against, 58 strikeouts and 18 hits allowed in 31 innings) but missed the final two months with a strained elbow. He says he’s healthy.

    He doesn’t have a career save, and while everybody loves his stuff, two scouts have told me they’re concerned about his durability because his unique delivery puts so much pressure on his arm. Mattingly suggested closing might be better for Capps’ health because when he throws in the bullpen, he knows he would be coming in the game.

    Fangraphs’ Jeff Sullivan and Brad Johnson combined on an interesting piece on Ramos and Capps on their web site, which we encourage reading. Some highlights:

    “When Ramos runs into trouble, it’s with his fastball. The pitch is merely adequate which makes him a somewhat uncommon closer in this age of blazing heat. He still has velocity – 93 mph worth of it. He just doesn’t get the best results with the pitch.

    “When he slumped last season, he had four multi-run innings in the space of 15 games. What do you want to bet his fastball was to blame in those games? (hint, it was). Make no mistake, Ramos is a very good relief pitcher despite his ordinary fastball.”

    Fangraphs, in that piece, calls Capps “arguably the best reliever in all of baseball. He throws just two pitches, and they’re both elite. Ridiculously so. His fastball averages 99 mph. With his deceptive [delivery] and excellent extension, it’s perceived to average about 101 mph. Sometimes it’s even faster. When they swung, hitters fouled it off 41 percent of the time. They whiffed 35 percent of the time. That leaves about 24 percent of swings as a ball in play.

    “With Capps, it just seems a matter of time before somebody puts a barrel on a fastball. Even AroldisChapman allows the occasional extra base hit. Capps’ fastball allowed just one double and one home run. His elite velocity should keep him in the discussion for best reliever in baseball.”

    ### Besides Ramos and Capps, Mike Dunn and Bryan Morris will be in the bullpen, Phelps presumably will be if he isn’t the fifth starter and Kyle Barraclough and Brian Ellington have a good chance to stick. Veteran left-hander Craig Braslow, with the Red Sox the past four years, must pitch well this spring for the Marlins to keep him and his $1.5 million salary.

    That’s eight relievers, with seven being the most the Marlins likely can afford to keep. And room likely would be made for Jackson if he’s effective in the spring but isn’t the No. 5 starter. So that’s nine. Injuries can sometimes sort these things out.

    Difficult to see Hand (4-7, 5.30) sticking again after five years of underperforming. Though some believe Conley would be an effective reliever, the Marlins likely would want him to pitch as a starter at Triple A if he doesn’t win a rotation spot.

    ### The Marlins need a strong comeback year from Dunn, whose ERA rose from 2.66 to 3.16 to 4.50 the past three seasons, with 75 base-runners allowed in 54 innings in 2015. He had 23 holds, no saves and three blown saves last season.

    He still throws hard (65 strikeouts), but his location wasn’t as sharp. Morris (5-4, 3.14, 18 holds, two blown saves) is competent, but batters hit .275 off him.

    ### Really curious to see what two pleasant surprises (Barraclough and Ellington) can do this year.
    Barraclough, acquired from St. Louis for Steve Cishek, exceeded expectations: 2.59 ERA in 24 innings and a .154 average against.
    Ellington, a 16th-round draft pick in 2012, also impressed: He throws in the high 90s, was 2-1 with a 2.88 ERA, and batters hit .193 off him.

    Beyond Capps, the Marlins have “a phalanx of guys who throw 96-100 like Kyle Barraclough, Brian Ellington, Bryan Morris, Jose Urena,” Peter Gammons said. “It is not out of the realm of possibility that with the staff they have assembled and paid for to work pitching — Jim Benedict, Juan Nieves for starters—the Marlins could have the best bullpen in the National League East come July.”

    So the bullpen isn’t burdened, it’s so important that the fourth and fifth starters get the Marlins deep into games. A healthy, productive Cosart would help.
     
  25. Jack Parkman

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    Smh it's already starting

    From @clarkspencer - Sources: Marlins reliever Carter Capps undergoes MRI on right elbow miamiherald.com/sports/mlb/mia… @heraldsports
     
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    Welp

    RHP Carter Capps to undergo Tommy John surgery today by Dr. James Andrews. #GetWellCarter
     
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  29. CF3234

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    So Jose will not start opening day.

    Doing everything they can to piss him off
     
  30. danny2430

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    You're crazy if you thought he was gonna stick around

    He hates the organization
     
  31. CF3234

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    Of course i know he's gone. But a guy can dream
     
  32. Jack Parkman

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    Cosart this spring: 9.2 IP 0 ER 9 Ks

    Pray he can get back to his form 2 years ago
     
  33. Jack Parkman

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    Need Conley/Cosart to keep pitching like they have this spring

    #Marlins rotation to opening the season:
    Wei-Yin Chen
    Jose Fernandez
    Adam Conley
    Tom Koehler
    Jarred Cosart
     
  34. Jigga

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    Anyone seen how the stadium looks with the new walls?
     
  35. Jack Parkman

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    Haven't seen the finished product just when they were originally starting it
     
  36. Jack Parkman

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    Opening day! This is the year! FISH ALL THE WAY BABY
     
  37. CF3234

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  38. Sub-Zero

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    as happy as ever i use a buddy's MLB.tv login because no way i would be paying this season (other than the beer i give as gratitude....because im pretty sure the account is his brother's in the first place)
     
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    Well, we all hate the organization, but we stick around. And they're not even willing to pay us hundreds of millions of dollars.
     
  40. Sub-Zero

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    too real :donotwant:
     
  41. RWisoursavior

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    Ah, the most Marlins way to start a season, with a delay.......
     
  42. CF3234

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    ??? It's typical opening day ceremonies.
     
  43. CF3234

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    New dimensions look nice. Much better than citi field.
     
  44. RWisoursavior

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    Yes, and the organization should have the ceremony schedule down.
     
  45. CF3234

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    This was "scheduled" so the introductions and national anthem could be shown on TV. Jeez man
     
  46. Jigga

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    Stuck on the god forsaken west coast of the state. Rays on 2 channels and Fish on none.
     
  47. Celemo

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    Take it easy on us tonight, please and thank you
     
  48. Jack Parkman

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    fish should be on mlb tv
     
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    Fish on MLBTV and probably on the EI free preview on DirecTV