Official Middle East/ISIS thread: Tehran up another part of the Middle East

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  1. BROADWAY JOE

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    This is probably the same unit fighting today
     
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    http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-iraq-mosul-20161020-snap-story.html

    The special forces are expected to lead the way into Mosul, where they will face fierce resistance in an urban landscape where Islamic State militants are preparing for a climactic battle. The offensive is the largest operation launched by Iraqi forces since the 2003 U.S.-led invasion and is expected to take weeks, if not months.
     
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    A us soldier died in an IED attack.
     
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    Syrian rebel convoy on the way to Aleppo in another attempt to break the siege


    intense fighting in South Aleppo
     
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    Peshmerga lighting up an ISIS SVBIED with a Milan ATGM.

     
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    Isis and al-nusra are fighting each other?
     
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    yeeeah they probably confused it with al nasr
     
  12. JGator1

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    Yeah they've cooperated when absolutely necessary in isolated parts of Syria but in Aleppo they've been fighting each other for a while.
     
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    Syrian rebels preparing to launch their biggest attack to break the siege of Aleppo, article in spoiler


    Syrian rebels prepare 'Mother of all Battles' for Aleppo
    https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/i...s-for-aleppo?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=sf


    It is nearly zero hour, and Syrian rebels are girding for a decisive assault on Aleppo, which they say could decide the outcome of the war.

    Thousands of fighters from a range of militias are heading north from the rebel's stronghold in Idlib ready to take part in the assault.

    Dozens of vehicles have been converted into suicide VBIEDs or car bombs to pave way for the first phase of the attack by 600 specially trained "storm troopers".

    If they are successful and break the regime's siege of east Aleppo, they could well rout the regime from the whole city, and secure northern Syria for the opposition.

    If they fail, Aleppo will almost certainly fall into the regime's hands and the future for the Syrian opposition will look very bleak indeed.

    "The fight for Aleppo will be the final battle," one rebel fighter told The New Arab.

    Unity

    A joint military command centre - Ahl al-Sham [People of Syria] - has been set up, and it includes no fewer than five factions, including the Free Syrian Army, Nour al-Deen al-Zinki, and Jaish al-Fatah.
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    Members of the opposition say the myriad of rebel groups - secular, Islamist and jihadi - have finally found common ground, and fighters are "without exception" eager to take part in the offensive.

    "All factions within the Fatah Aleppo operation room agreed to participate as much as possible. They will commit all their resources, heavy weapons and all other available means to succeed with the general goals," said Ibrahim al-Idlibi, a media spokesperson for the Free Syrian Army's 21st Combined Force, formerly known as the 101 Division.

    "Jaish al-Fatah has enough manpower to continue with the push, even after we break the [siege of Aleppo]," he said.

    The offensive was temporarily put on hold, after the Syrian regime captured a strategic hilltop in Aleppo, but the opposition insist the attack will still go ahead in the coming days or weeks.

    If the last-ditch attempt to secure East Aleppo is successful, it will secure critical supply routes into the city.

    Critically, it would limit the regime's ability to launch counter-attacks on East Aleppo, and from this stronghold the rebels could move into regime-held West Aleppo.

    Capital of commerce

    Damascus might be the capital of Syria, but pre-war Aleppo had the larger population and was the country's industrial and economic hub, although war has undoubtedly changed this situation.

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    Aside from the prestige of capturing Aleppo - its location close to the Turkish border and inroads into other parts of Syria also make it an important prize for both sides.

    In August, after the regime laid siege to east Aleppo, the rebels launched an offensive to break the blockade.

    It began with civilians making their own "no-fly-zone" by burning hundreds of tires to create a thick blanket of smoke shielding the build-up of fighters, and preventing further bombing of residential areas.

    Then the offensive began with thousands of rebels breaking the siege - albeit briefly.

    Mohammed Rashed, an officer and head of the media office of Jaish al-Nasr, a Free Syrian Army faction in Aleppo, said that the new offensive would rely on coordination across the board if it is to be successful.

    "What I can tell you is that civilians within the districts will play a key role, a factor which will help us during our movements," Rashed said.

    "The offensive will work simultaneously in several directions. The start is expected in the west, from where the rebels should push into three different parts of Aleppo, the west, south and another 'surprise' direction."

    The thin corridor of land into east Aleppo secured by the rebels during the August offensive - around the al-Ramousa district - proved unsustainable to hold. Vulnerable to attack from two sides, it fell again to the regime within days.

    No way back

    President Bashar al-Assad has made it clear he won't accept a long-term truce with the rebels, and ultimately wants to defeat the opposition on the battlefield.

    Aleppo appears to be the theatre in which Damascus wants to deliver a decisive blow to the rebels.

    East Aleppo has been largely flattened by waves of Russian and regime air raids since a ceasefire broke down in September. More than 1,000 people - mostly civilians - have been killed in the past two months of bombing.




    Syrian rebels have prepared vehicles packed full of explosives
    for the initial stages of the attack
    Translation: "We are ready to greet the 'green buses'
    and it will be a good meeting, God willing"

    Meanwhile, a regime offer of "reconciliation" for civilians has been rejected - with only a handful of East Aleppo's 300,000 civilians leaving the district through "humanitarian corridors".

    At the same time, regime-aligned fighters have launched another offensive and moved deeper into eastern Aleppo.

    "The goal is clear, our people in Aleppo are suffering and we are their only hope," said Rashed.

    "Aleppo will be reopened, but our struggle continues everywhere the Assad regime is present."

    Rashed said the first wave of attacks in the Aleppo offensive would include 4,000 men, and will allow them to link up with around 10,000 rebels inside east Aleppo.

    It will combine a wave of suicide attacks from the Fatah al-Sham vanguard, while opposition engineers will detonate five massive underground "torpedo" bombs buried under the city.

    The opposition hope to replicate their lightning attack on Idlib province in 2015, when they captured the provincial capital and then moved into other areas such as Jisr al-Shighour. The surprise offensive gave the Syrian opposition full control over the first Syrian province.

    That was an assault which took six months to plan; the opposition have a much shorter timeframe to coordinate attacks to retake Aleppo.

    Another challenge is that while the Jaish al-Fatah-led offensive in Idlib was made up of similarly ideologicallyaligned groups, the Aleppo offensive will rely on secular FSA and Salafi commanders working together.

    If they fail now, the wounds from the defeat will take a long time to heal. Many agree that east Aleppo will likely face the same fate as many other places in Syria that resisted sieges - in the end, most yielded to the pressure.


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  14. (Z)

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    When did they stop?
     
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    You pretty much doom yourself from the start when you use "Mother of all Battles"
     
  16. fsugrad99

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    Seriously, there have been like, a dozen Mothers of all Battles in my lifetime.

    Need to re-brand. Maybe, like, this is a Main Event of a B-Show.
     
  17. RoyalShocker

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    It's almost easier for ISIS... Imagine the logistics, communications, permissions, arguments, backdealing, demands, etc. that have to be resolved in working together/separately against the common enemy of ISIS. Let alone how the fuck do you even know an ISIS army/fighter from the rest of them (no offense, y'all look like Mexicans to me).

    All ISIS has to do is recruit and kill. Their task is much more simple aside from the fact that they are facing a global super power, a nuclear super power, and almost the entire Middle East.
     
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  18. WhiskeyDelta

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    That's one of the reasons Israel has lasted this long; all its enemies distrust each other and won't work together.
     
  19. JGator1

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    The other groups only cooperate out of necessity and clashes among them happen often, most recently between Ahrar al Sham and Jund al Aqsa(who merged into Jabhat Fatah al Sham). They're also all intermingled in Idlib and Aleppo while ISIS heartland in eastern Syria is completely their own.
     
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    Faylaq al Sham drone footage of recently captured al-Assad suburb in West Aleppo
     
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    Looks like Dresden.

    It's insane how they've managed to actually clear out the buildings and everything, which makes it look even more creepy. Just giant empty lots everywhere.
     
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    Iraqi forces have entered Mosul
     
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    We're surrounded and pretty much fucked, may as well fight one another

     
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    I didn't think there was any fighting to the west. I thought it was all on the east side of Mosul.
     
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    Ahh, just read it's a Shia militia group that claims to control one road leaving Mosul to the west.
     
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    Unfortunately the PMU contains many groups that fought against the US when we were in Iraq and they're heavily influenced by Iran but we're kinda stuck with them.
     
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    3 Americans dead in shooting at Jordan military base
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/jordan-air-base-shooting-leaves-us-military-trainers-dead-reports/
    Last Updated Nov 4, 2016 11:31 AM EDT

    Three U.S. service members were killed Friday in a shooting incident at a military base south of Jordan’s capital city Amman, a U.S. official said.

    The service members were in vehicles approaching the gate of a Jordanian military training facility, where they came under small arms fire, the official said. The U.S. was working with Jordanian officials to investigate further.

    Jordanian state news agency Petra first said the shooting occurred at the entrance to the King Faisal Air Base, in the al-Jafr area south of Amman, after the vehicles carrying the service members failed to stop at the security gates.

    The agency later dropped the reference to a vehicle failing to stop at a gate, saying only that there was an “exchange” of gunfire.


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    A Jordanian military source reiterated to CBS News, however, that the incident occurred at a gate to the base, when a vehicle carrying the trainers failed to stop.

    The Jordanian source told CBS News it appeared to be an accidental shooting rather than terrorism, but the nature of the incident remained unclear.

    The U.S. Embassy in Jordan said in a statement that it was aware of “reports about a security incident involving U.S. personnel” and that it was in contact with Jordanian authorities, “who have offered their full support.”

    Attacks on U.S. personnel are extremely rare in Jordan, a close American ally in the Middle East. Jordan is one of the only Arab nations to have joined the U.S.-led military coalition fighting ISIS in Iraq and Syria.

    In November 2015, a Jordanian police officer opened fire at a regional police training center in the Jordanian capital, killing two Americans, a South African and two Jordanians before being shot dead.
     
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    They are about 2mi from the airport where isis is dug in big time

    Isis still biding their time deeper into the city
     
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    ^^^^^if SAA maintains control it severely hampers the rebels chances of breaking the siege^^^^^
    Tiger Forces + Hezbollah are as good as it gets for the regime
     
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    That woman makes lara Logan look like she's doing a weather report In Mosul.

    Hope she makes it home safely
     
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    rebels chances of breaking the siege of Aleppo get slimmer and slimmer
     
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    Clip from a documentary on Nusra(JFS) suicide bombers, calls into question claims about "targeting civilians"
     
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    wtf
     
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    While this was pretty obviously not a civilian gathering, there is no question that the regime does target civilians as well as legit targets. Surely both sides fudge the figures to fit their purposes.
     
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    They do!