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  1. OZ

    OZ Old balls

    Good to see. Usually, as mentioned in the article, when the team addresses something under McCarthy it becomes a thing of the past.
  2. Dirt Dirt McGirt

    Dirt Dirt McGirt Dirtin for Certain

  3. duc15

    duc15 Run through the tape

  4. Rammer Jammer

    Rammer Jammer Fan Of: Bama, Braves, Packers, MSU Baseball

  5. Bo Ryan

    Bo Ryan Head Coach of Wisconsin Men's Basketball, Bo Ryan

  6. IanC

    IanC Hurr Derrrr herrrrrr, Bork! Bork! Bork!

    If the Pack get hooked up with some good compensatory picks I wouldnt mind them drafting a QB higher than people might think. :twocents:
  7. Rammer Jammer

    Rammer Jammer Fan Of: Bama, Braves, Packers, MSU Baseball

    Do we draft a RB this year?
  8. Dirt Dirt McGirt

    Dirt Dirt McGirt Dirtin for Certain

    No earlier than 6th round I don't think but I like your thought. I'm not at all comfortable with Graham Harrell as the backup.
  9. duc15

    duc15 Run through the tape

    Where is a guy like Kirk Cousins projected?
  10. Bo Ryan

    Bo Ryan Head Coach of Wisconsin Men's Basketball, Bo Ryan

    Impressing the scouts. Late-late second to early third as of now. Guys football smart.
  11. James the Saint

    James the Saint WE SEC NOW

    I think it depends on how they feel about Alex Green and James Starks going forward. We haven't seen enough on Green to really make a judgment one way or another. I'm not sure Starks has the potential to ever be a true primary back, I think he's much better off as part of a two-back system. That's where the NFL game has headed anyway. I've doubted for years how long Grant really has left because I don't think he's going to age gracefully. Eventually I think he's just going to burn out in a hurry and we'll be fucked if not prepared.

    I would definitely take a back in the middle rounds. It's definitely not a priority but I think the position should be addressed.
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  12. 20/20/20/20

    20/20/20/20 hoes call me mr. never wear the same thing

    Do you guys think Prince Amukamara will get a starting corner spot next year?

    Also, what do you think about Eli next year? I'm not sure if he will be able to have another season as awesome as this one.
  13. Jean-Ralphio

    Jean-Ralphio CEO @ Entertainment 720 #flushedwithcash

    :injun:
  14. OZ

    OZ Old balls

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  15. rv12

    rv12 Cowabunga

    so Flynn walks
  16. duc15

    duc15 Run through the tape

    After reading up on the situation I'm glad we didn't use the tag on Flynn.
  17. Rammer Jammer

    Rammer Jammer Fan Of: Bama, Braves, Packers, MSU Baseball

    So we get nothing for Flynn and who are we using the tag on now?
  18. duc15

    duc15 Run through the tape

    We will get a Compensatory pick in next years draft. And today is the deadline for the Tag and I doubt we use it.
  19. IanC

    IanC Hurr Derrrr herrrrrr, Bork! Bork! Bork!

    JS Online makes a great point: what if the Pack had waited on Jordy?

    http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/141453173.html
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    Reminder: Packers made out on Nelson

    By Tyler Dunne of the Journal Sentinel

    March 5, 2012 12:26 p.m. |(42) Comments
    Green Bay --Ted Thompson has had some big decisions to make this off-season.
    Does he dare give the franchise tag to Matt Flynn? How much is center Scott Wellsworth? And what to do with veterans Donald Driver and Chad Clifton?
    Now imagine if the Packers general manager would have waited to re-sign Jordy Nelson, if he watched idly by as the wide receiver's market value soared. It was fairly evident Nelson was an ascending player late in the 2010 season. After all, he did catch nine passes for 140 yards and a touchdown in the Super Bowl. So three games into 2011, Thompson inked Nelson to a three-year, $12.6 million contract.
    At the time, the deal made him just the 27th highest-paid wide receiver. And this year, as of now, Nelson is the 14th highest-paid player on his own team.
    Granted, there's some logic on Nelson's part, too. He should be in line for a much bigger deal down the road. But Thompson couldn't have played this situation much better from the Packers' perspective. Just keep an eye on the contracts that are handed out to free agent wide receivers this off-season.
    On Monday, the Buffalo Bills signed Stevie Johnson to a five-year, $36.25 million contract, which includes $19.25 in guaranteed money, according to ESPN's Adam Schefter.
    To recap, Nelson finished 2011 with 1,263 yards on 68 receptions with 15 touchdowns. His 18.6 average ranked third in the NFL for receivers with at least 40 catches. And that touchdown total was third-best in the league. Johnson -- amid the antics -- had 76 receptions for 1,004 yards and seven scores.
    Chicago's Earl Bennett (24 rec., 381 yards, 1 TD in 11 games) signed a five-year, $18.55 million deal in December.
    And somewhere, San Diego's Vincent Jackson and New Orleans' Marques Colston are probably Googling a new car.
    However you slice it, Thompson and the Packers avoided a major dilemma by signing Nelson when they did. He emerged as one of the league's elite receivers. The position in general is very healthy, in many ways the backbone of the team. Somehow, the G.M. has managed to keep Nelson, Greg Jennings, James Jones, Randall Cobb, Jermichael Finley and -- maybe -- Donald Driver together at reasonable prices. Many other teams are top heavy at the position financially.
    If one of of Green Bay's receivers does leave down the road, it wouldn't be catastrophic. The Packers, refueling at the position almost annually have surrounded their MVP quarterback with weapons.
    OK, so Thompson has splurged on a whopping total of three -- count 'em, three -- unrestricted free agents the last five years (Frank Walker, Brandon Chillar and Duke Preston). He probably won't empty the bank account for a premier pass rusher this month. But the Packers are where they are because they've thought ahead with players like Nelson. Johnson's contract in Buffalo is another reminder.

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  20. duc15

    duc15 Run through the tape

    Packers are supposedly going after Chris Meyers
  21. duc15

    duc15 Run through the tape

    interesting to see if we actually pursue any bigger names in the coming days
  22. Rammer Jammer

    Rammer Jammer Fan Of: Bama, Braves, Packers, MSU Baseball

  23. Rammer Jammer

    Rammer Jammer Fan Of: Bama, Braves, Packers, MSU Baseball

    “@ShawnZobel_DHQ: I've been told that the Packers have interest in running back Mike Tolbert”
  24. Bo Ryan

    Bo Ryan Head Coach of Wisconsin Men's Basketball, Bo Ryan

    Sort of want
  25. duc15

    duc15 Run through the tape

    not sure what to think about Tolbert. I would rather spend money on D if we are going the FA way.
  26. Jean-Ralphio

    Jean-Ralphio CEO @ Entertainment 720 #flushedwithcash

  27. Dirt Dirt McGirt

    Dirt Dirt McGirt Dirtin for Certain

    I like Tolbert a lot. Great pass catcher and pass protector. Doubt we grab any free agents though.
  28. Rammer Jammer

    Rammer Jammer Fan Of: Bama, Braves, Packers, MSU Baseball

  29. OZ

    OZ Old balls

    I'd take Tolbert. Of course I'd much rather take somebody that can rush the pass along with Clay and a healthy Collins.
  30. Dirt Dirt McGirt

    Dirt Dirt McGirt Dirtin for Certain

    The number of bad contracts given out these past two days is hilarious. Can't believe Jordy agreed to that 3 year, 13 mill deal when guys like Pierre Garcon is banking $42 mil.
  31. James the Saint

    James the Saint WE SEC NOW

    Really goes to show you how important building successfully through the draft is. You'd think it would have occurred to Snyder and co. in Washington by now that maybe they should invest some in a strong scouting staff and a general manager that knows what he's doing with regards to the draft.
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  32. Dirt Dirt McGirt

    Dirt Dirt McGirt Dirtin for Certain

    I don't think it matters who the GM is, Dan Snyder is gonna spend money.
  33. duc15

    duc15 Run through the tape

  34. Rammer Jammer

    Rammer Jammer Fan Of: Bama, Braves, Packers, MSU Baseball

    Reports saying Flynn to Seattle
  35. Dirt Dirt McGirt

    Dirt Dirt McGirt Dirtin for Certain

    And the deal isn't high enough to get us a 3rd rounder damnit
  36. Rammer Jammer

    Rammer Jammer Fan Of: Bama, Braves, Packers, MSU Baseball

    Crap i wasn't sure how that worked.
  37. Bo Ryan

    Bo Ryan Head Coach of Wisconsin Men's Basketball, Bo Ryan

    Well, that's unfortunate.
  38. duc15

    duc15 Run through the tape

    I think Flynn is going to be pretty good in Seattle.
  39. James the Saint

    James the Saint WE SEC NOW

    Sucks to not get much of a return for Flynn but that was a risk in not franchising him. We probably should've cashed him last offseason.

    And what the shit is this about the Packers being interested in Tebow? Heard it on SportsCenter this morning, hopefully it's just talking head nonsense. Not only do I think he's a deficient NFL QB (and that's being kind) and probably couldn't amount to anything even under the tutelage of Clements and Rodgers, he's a huge distraction that couldn't do anything but poison the drama-less atmosphere McCarthy has crafted post-Favre.
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  40. blind dog

    blind dog Razorbacks

    allpro special teamer jarrett bush signs for 3 more years
  41. James the Saint

    James the Saint WE SEC NOW

    Anyone else get the feeling we're going to regret not re-signing Wells? After the debacle that occurred on the DL letting Jenkins go thinking we could easily replace him, I'm a little nervous. Even if a QB like Rodgers having a rookie center is a scary proposition for a Super Bowl contender.
  42. Dirt Dirt McGirt

    Dirt Dirt McGirt Dirtin for Certain

    :killme: he has definitely improved upon his all-shit team status from a few years ago but he still annoys me. Makes zero impact on D.

    According to the Journal-Sentinel and PFT, the Packers are very interested in OLB Manny Lawson. I'm definitely in favor of signing him because he'll be pretty cheap for a probable starter and an upgrade over Walden/Zombo/Jones.

    The Green Bay Packers don’t dabble in free agency much. Their only notable transaction of the past week was the re-signing of special teamer Jarrett Bush.
    But with the market cooling and price tags lowering, G.M. Ted Thompson may be poised to make some moves.
    Per Ty Dunne of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, the Packers have interest in free agent linebacker Manny Lawson, and the two sides “have been in discussions.”
    While Lawson lacks ideal explosiveness rushing off the edge, he could be an upgrade on the likes of Erik Walden, Frank Zombo, and Brad Jones opposite Clay Matthews. As explained in our top-ten list of intriguing free agents left on the market, Lawson is an adept run-defending linebacker and excels in pass coverage.
    Lawson is also the No. 60 overall player in the PFT Hot 100.
  43. Dirt Dirt McGirt

    Dirt Dirt McGirt Dirtin for Certain

    So far it is, they're using McCarthy's comments from before the draft that Tebow was in as reason they'd be interested. McCarthy said he'd love a chance to work with Tebow. I actually don't think it's a bad idea as I like Tebow and you could do much worse than him as a backup plus we'd only have to give up a 5th rounder at most. Unfortunately, Tebow would bring a media circus to town and that's not something the team or fans want.

    Yeah, I wanted us to bring Wells back but he got a pretty hefty deal for a guy on the wrong side of his career. I think it's likely we sign a FA center like Dan Koppen to a short-term deal and draft someone this year or next to be the guy down the line.
  44. James the Saint

    James the Saint WE SEC NOW

    Pat Lee signed a one-year deal with the Raiders
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  45. Dirt Dirt McGirt

    Dirt Dirt McGirt Dirtin for Certain

    Thank Raptor Jesus
  46. IanC

    IanC Hurr Derrrr herrrrrr, Bork! Bork! Bork!

    I think there are better ways to spend $6/year than a 30+ center. Remember, Jennings, Rodgers, and Matthews all need new contracts soon.
  47. Dirt Dirt McGirt

    Dirt Dirt McGirt Dirtin for Certain

    Same. We don't have a ton of cap space and we still have all those big-money extensions we need to get done.
  48. tradercane

    tradercane New Member

    Just wanted to say that I am a new Packers fan. I was formerly a Jets fan with the Pack being my second favorite team but now I am all Packers. Since I was already a Brewers fan I thought this would work out great.

    For the draft i think we should look for a cornerback in the first round if there is one worthy of going at that slot.
  49. Jean-Ralphio

    Jean-Ralphio CEO @ Entertainment 720 #flushedwithcash

    First of all welcome to the pack.

    I disagree. our current cornerbacks looked great when we had a pass rush. we need OLB and DE/DT more than we need cornerback. Woodson is obviously near the end but I would rather get the pass rush fixed this year.
  50. James the Saint

    James the Saint WE SEC NOW

    CB is one of the last positions I'd address. Woodson still has the skills and Williams, despite a drop off last season, is still a damned good corner in his own right. As DJ said, when our pass rush was effective we had an elite secondary. I'd look for Shields to break out in a big way this season and perhaps we see Woodson make his inevitable shift to safety in 2013. Hopefully Davon House or maybe a draft pick this year can then transition to the nickel role.

    Thompson really has to make it a priority to draft a DL or LB with the first rounder, even if that means jumping up a few slots. We really can't afford to come away from the first round without having upgraded the pass rush.

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