I really truly believe this may be the best Star Wars movie to date. It looks absolutely incredible AND Darth Vader will forever be the best villain in cinema history.
I agree that TFA was recycled in many ways, though the Luke stuff was actually kinda brave in my opinion and not something we've seen before in a big budget movie like that. By far the safest thing would have been to fulfill our badass old Jedi Master Luke Skywalker fantasies. They also went with the female protagonist, which I know has been in vogue lately but certainly wasn't when the majority of Star Wars fans became Star Wars fans. But I take issue with the "garbage" part.
Garbage was a bit much, I'll admit. But it's not one of the 3 best movies in the series. It might even be below RotS, might.
You're taking crazy pills if you put any of the prequels ahead of the other 4 those are just terribly made movies all the way around
the newness could still be a factor, but I'm going to be honest if you gave me the option of watching TFA or ROTJ right now I'm pretty sure I'm picking TFA. I hate ewoks though.
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Jealousy isn't a good look for you droid. It's ok to admit that my movie is better than any of yours. Just roll off into the sunset, nobody cares about you anymore.
Re TFA - I get why/how people feel the way Artoo does. I get the criticisms, but I loved the movie and it didnt bother me one bit.
I rewatched TFA a week ago for the first time since it was in theaters. The absurdity of the Battles of Takodana and Starkiller Base and the weakening of lightsabers bothered me a lot more than they did on my first few watches. Nothing a good story wouldn't have overcome, but TFA wasn't that. I'd have it firmly between Return of the Jedi and Revenge of the Sith and even with the Ewok crap, I really wonder about those who have it above ROTJ.
what's this now? I put it third in a tie with ROTJ, but probably give the nod to Jedi because it ended the story (so far as we knew) in a satisfactory way.
I don't think you should be able to take a lightsaber to the face like Kylo Ren does and walk away. Finn has one jammed in his shoulder and doesn't lose his arm, he gets struck in the back and it's like he just got hit with a whip. There was no such thing as a glancing blow in the first six movies, and I found it to be a way to cheapen the value of swordsmanship and force connectivity in the use of the saber.
Well as I am an expert on such things, it didn't appear that either went that deep. By your logic, Finn should've been cut completely in half by Kylo.
always has been. I remember old message board threads I've seen discussing whether or not a lightsaber could have deflected the Death Star's laser if positioned correctly.
And Kylo's lightsaber isn't as powerful as evidenced by it's rather crude aesthetic design and ragged blade.
Fair enough, but that's hitting armored metal on a guy who has particular force-related pain tolerances, not a light jacket worn by some dude off the street who continued to fight after getting a hole in the shoulder. The shot to the back shouldn't have been survivable, imo.
it did put him in that coma he's in at the end of the movie. a lightsaber straight through the shoulder would just create a shoulder wound like being shot would. It wasn't even done with much force.
Artoo Are your feelings on TFA influenced by Mr. Plinkett's review? I think he kind of nailed it, except for his criticism of the characters (aside from Kylo, who I couldn't stand). I really liked Rey, Poe, and the black. I didn't feel the emotional disconnect that he seemed to observe. In fact, the three new characters were my favorite part about the whole damn movie! BUT I do agree with the rest of what you're saying. I even said at the time that, while a good movie and one I enjoyed, that it kind of soured the end of ROTJ while basically rehashing the entire story. As a tool to get people back into the universe, it was a tremendous success. Quality wise- it fits in between the OLD Trilogy and the New, IMHO. ROTJ is criticized for the EWOKS and shit, but it's either my favorite or second favorite SW movie. So many amazing scenes: -Darth Vader arriving on the second Death Star -The Emperor arriving in that most Nazi of ceremonies -Darth Vader coming down to meet Luke on Endor... -Harrison grabs Leia's boob after she's shot like it's the most important thing in the world -The final Throne Room confrontation has the best lightsaber fight, the best movie turn of all time, and the Emperor shoots lightning out of his hands for fuck sake. -Lando and pussy lips destroy Death Star II. Seriously, do you guys remember when they did that? -THE MOST PERFECT ENDING EVER: Darth Vader returns from the dark side, the Empire is defeated, Luke, Leia, Han, Chewie, Artoo, Lando are all triumphant heroes. It's perfect. Return of the Jedi is GREAT and I hate that the Ewoks ruin it for people when they are a small part of it and the rest is just amazing. Leia also wears that awesome outfit in the beginning.
you have to take into account that the actual art in the training of lightsaber swordsmanship has been lost for DECADES now. Kylo isn't a Sith yet and Rey is barely a padawan in terms of skill. I doubt Kylo Ren even knows about the different forms of saber combat, much less trained in them extensively.
Qui Gon didn't have ancient force magic to resurrect him. Hey remember when he was supposedly able to go force ghost?
They're Mon Calamari cruisers. Corellia was under imperial control and the only corellian ships of any size the rebellion had were corvettes.
Random thought: I kinda hope Kylo doesn't have another mask this go around. Just walk around all badass with his facial scar.
watch some south park. though I think you are right that they were referred to as corellian corvettes last night
Finn should be dead - If you ran my spine through with a cutco bread knife like that I would be dead, let alone a gosh darn laser sword.
Or a cybernetic back. And like, we see a doctor droid ops checking his spine, just like with Luke's hand, except Finn's arms and legs spasm instead of just his fingers so he's like flopping around like a fish.
No. The initial love affair wore off after watching it a few times. The parallelism was glaringly obvious. I was mildly upset with myself for not seeing it immediately.
Re-hashing the Death Star story line for the third time was just lazy and convenient writing. Logically, it doesn't really make sense within the story - The Empire fell and then the people that took up its cause were able to build an exponentially more powerful (and expensive) space station in the two or so decades that followed. THAT and it bringing a reality check that things don't always end well rubbed me the wrong way- i.e.: Parents get divorced, friends lose touch with each other and make horrible mistakes, etc. Couldn't be more excited for Rogue One, though.