LFC: Dalglish, Rush, Fowler, Owen, Torres, Suarez, Sturridge, Origi

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  1. Ace Boogie

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    Uh lambert. At least Ings has some tread left on the tire.
     
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  2. CoastalOrange

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    I thought I saw a rumor this morning that we were looking at bringing in Milner on $100,000 per week wages.
     
  3. Illinihockey

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    I think this is a trick question. Both are a waste of money.
     
  4. Illinihockey

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    He's not taking a paycut to come to Liverpool. Its why I've been against this signing from the start.
     
  5. roonskie

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    So what are everyone's odds we sell Sterling this summer?
     
  6. clemsontyger04

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    Ings is at least still young and has potential value.

    Lambert is a broken down has been
     
  7. Illinihockey

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    I'd say not even 50%. However I think the odds we sell him after next season is 100%.
     
  8. animal_mother

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    more worried about Coutinho tbh...
     
  9. BPDuncan

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  10. Quick

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    Sterling leaving would be a disaster. Not gonna even lie.
     
  11. BPDuncan

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    More or less than Teixeira?
    :angrycorn:
     
  12. animal_mother

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  13. JonathanCoachman

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    You'd probably receive double what he's actually worth depending on the buyer. Just don't spend the money on Graziano Pelle, James Ward-Prowse and Ryan Bertrand this time.
     
  14. roonskie

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    FIFA trade but whatever I know it won't happen:

    Straight swap Sterling for Gotze.
     
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  15. BPDuncan

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    You sound like The Mirror.
     
  16. rainey

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    HAHAHA
     
  17. Andy Reocho

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    i'm still failing to figure out why you all think Ings would be a bad signing.

    not old, scored a good number of goals on a crap squad, and has a good work rate.
     
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  18. roonskie

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    For our 3rd or 4th forward he's an ok signing.
     
  19. Andy Reocho

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    He certainly shouldn't be the leading striker. but he's a pretty good 2nd option for a Europa league team
     
  20. BPDuncan

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    I think our fear is he will be the only signing up top. I like the signing, as pointed out above.

    My question to you is if that would make him a premier signing for a team almost relegated? :awesomeface:
     
  21. Andy Reocho

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    yes because i know he can score goals for terrible teams
     
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  22. BPDuncan

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    [​IMG]
     
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  23. Illinihockey

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    Because liverpool should be trying to buy 2 or 3 players to upgrade their top 11, not buying a bunch of squad players like they did last summer
     
  24. Andy Reocho

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    I'd like to think you can still sign 2 or 3 first teamers along with Ings.
     
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  25. Pasta88

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    Ings for 4 mil is a good buy. Don't get the fuss.
     
  26. rainey

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    Liverpool needs to take risks, Ings is the safe play that won't work out. Inter and AC Milan are both a wreck and have young attacking talent that would probably look at Pool as an attractive offer. Why not beat Inter to Jovetic?

    Stuttgart might get relegated and have Timo Werner. Schalke look set to miss the CL and have an ass load of young talent.
     
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  27. JonathanCoachman

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    This wasn't serious was it? You'd have to throw Coutinho in there and still I doubt Bayern would accept that.
     
  28. animal_mother

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    and why would a CL and WC winner come to a place w/ no champions league?
     
  29. Wu

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    This would devastate Wenger beyond belief.
     
  30. JonathanCoachman

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    Gotze has never won the CL. Stupid bitch was still a Dortmund player when Bayern won it. That may have been the most Judas moment in all of sports history to announce that when he did.
     
  31. Illinihockey

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    Ibe is signing a 5 year deal next week reportedly, that's good. Apparently Skrtel is signing a contract extension as well which is not good news.
     
  32. Pasta88

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    It was more leaked by Bild than announced by anyone.
     
  33. Andy Reocho

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  34. Illinihockey

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    Apparently Sterling is talking to Bayern. I'd give him the Suarez treatment, get him to sign a new contract and tell him they'll sell him next year....make one more run at Champions League with him and maximize his value.
     
  35. Illinihockey

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    That goal in the FA Cup Final is just ridiculous. That's a full 35 yards out and he just puts it in on an absolute rope
     
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  36. Illinihockey

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    Just hope tomorrow is Johnson, Lucas, and Lambert's last game at Anfield too.
     
  37. roonskie

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    2 of those 3 I absolutely agree with. 1 I'm only good with if we buy a replacement.
     
  38. Illinihockey

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    Apparently Kolo is going to be brought back for a year
     
  39. steamengine

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  40. BPDuncan

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    Yep. But I am looking forward to seeing him more often here in the States, even if for a short period of time and not at his best.
     
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  41. steamengine

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    Blurred Icon: Steven Gerrard’s Contradictory Greatness
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    I’m thinking about the connection between a fan and an athlete — I mean the essential one, the basic identification, the feeling that the person in the red shirt is representing me out there. That some important part of me is wrapped up in another person’s ability to hit a jump shot, score a free kick, return a serve, make a tackle. It’s one of the simplest forces in sports; also surely one of the strangest, because why should I care whether youcan catch a ball or not? Why should that have the power to make me happy or cause me pain? And yet I not only care whether you can, I feel involved when you do, as though my wanting you to do it somehow made you do it — as though desire made you my avatar.

    On some pre-broadcast-media, hyper-local level, on the village green or the high school football field or whatever, it’s easy to see how this would work. The fans know the athletes. They know their families. When the Muggleton boys ride over to the next town to take on Dingley Dell, of course a Muggletonian will feel invested. The outcome of the match has something to do with her tangible, everyday reality. What’s mysterious about fandom, though, is that it doesn’t seem to diminish as it becomes depersonalized. Strangers on TV awaken the same quick bloom of sympathy, even when they’re playing for cities to which neither you nor they have any lasting ties.

    Steven Gerrard played his 700th game for Liverpool this week, in a 2-1 win against Bolton in the FA Cup. Gerrard, who is in his final year with Liverpool before moving to the LA Galaxy next season, is both as local and as global as a superstar athlete can be. He has spent his entire career with the Merseyside club, grew up near it, has deep roots in the area; his 10-year-old cousin Jon-Paul Gilhooley was the youngest person killed in the 1989 Hillsborough Stadium disaster, the tragedy that helped forge modern Liverpool fandom into a more-than-a-club identity. At the same time, you can buy counterfeits of his jersey in Hong Kong alleys. You can find his face on billboards in African cities, can find his supporters on every continent — people who speak English or don’t speak English, people who couldn’t find Anfield on a map. His centaurish smashing through the Liverpool midfield has made him a psychic avatar, explicably or inexplicably, for millions and millions of people.

    This also makes late-career Gerrard a fascinating example of the kinds of meanings athletes take on over time, of the freight of all that emotional investment. He has played for Liverpool for more than 16 years, and in that time he’s been everything, has stood for everything. He’s been the simple-hearted hometown lad who’d go drinking with fans after matches. He’s been the tabloid-pointillist celebrity caricature who, WAG in tow, partied England out of the World Cup. He’s been the stout-hearted leader whose sheer presence, Zinedine Zidane once said, made him the best player in the world, but he’s also been the disgraced lout who was once arrested for gang-assaulting a DJ — the rumor said that the guy wouldn’t play a Phil Collins song. He’s been the big-moment, screaming-drama goal scorer, the hero of the Miracle of Istanbul; he’s been the arrogant gloryhound killing Liverpool with his addiction to 30-yard shots. He’s been the beloved captain of England. He’s been the punch line who couldn’t play with Frank Lampard. He’s received so much attention for so long that every identity and counter-identity he’s ever accrued has been left to run in its own separate thread of mutually exclusive — but somehow not mutually excluding — conventional wisdom.

    Maybe this is what it means to be a legendary athlete in 2015. You become the blurred index of your own accumulated personas. The history you develop doesn’t so much overwrite itself as stack atop itself at different levels, like lines of Matrix code. The surge of identification that made fans care about you in the first place eventually thwarts its own function; supporters who have followed you to share in your significant moments finally can’t see you through the carapace of memories they’ve enclosed you in. Gerrard has become such a cipher over the past few seasons that hardly anyone even agrees whether he’s good or not.

    But that’s not quite true. What’s true is that he’s been so overrated and so underrated at so many different points throughout his career that he somehow seems to exist, always, on both those planes at once. He’s both an immortally great player and a minor English embarrassment. He’s one of the best midfielders of his generation and also a technically limited poster child for the inflated reputations of native-born Premier League stars. Did he save Liverpool (they won the Champions League!) or ruin Liverpool (no league titles across his entire career, plus that infamous slip)? You can lay a lot of sins at the feet of the English tabloids; a dearth of negative capability is not one of them.

    It used to be that watching him play offered a way back into some sort of original appreciation. Love him or hate him, he was something to see. He had this way of running that was both heedlessly aggressive and a little bit slumped into itself, a way of charging ahead with his shoulders fragilely hunched. He was self-protectively bludgeoning. He had been a defensive player early in his career and there were years when you could sense him liberating his way forward, feeling his way into the freedom of attack. But he always played with a bit of that old ball-kludging brusqueness. He attacked the goal like he wanted to tackle it.

    During the peak of the Rafa Benítez years, you sensed that Gerrard’s ideal version of soccer was a kind of highly choreographed billiards game, one in which he set the balls clacking to his own sense of pattern and time. He had an instinct for big moments, too, or at least enough of one to give you a bad case of confirmation bias. Which is all you can expect from an athlete, really. Later, he combined with Luis Suárez on the befores and durings of about a hundred thousand set-piece opportunities. But he’d receded a bit by that point; he was spending less time as the obvious shaping influence on the pitch. That was partly because he was getting older, probably, and partly because, when you’re playing with Suárez, it’s hard not to get drawn into his personal raging black hole.

    It might be different if he’d won the Premier League a couple of seasons ago. But as it is, he’s past the point where the contradictions of his legacy can be resolved by anything he does in a match. So how do you identify with him now? Liverpool fans love him, of course, or most of them do. But they love him the way you love a house you know you’re about to move away from, less as an active presence and more as a kind of locus of treasured experiences. He is instinctively one of the fiercest and most direct soccer players I’ve ever watched. But the invisible wiring of sympathy that animates spectator sports is set up to create endings like this, at least when the grid becomes powerful enough. Every moment is lived so many times, matters so much, registers so intensely that it becomes unforgettable. And so the most complete icon becomes the cloudiest figure, the palimpsest on which so much writing is layered that it finally becomes illegible.
     
  42. swiggle

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  43. Quick

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  44. swiggle

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    Apparently another Rodgers themed banner flying over again today.
     
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  45. Frank Martin

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    the best part of Gerrard's amazing strikes were they didn't come on a random Saturday in Stoke. They came in the 86th minute on our way out of Champions League and the 91st minute down in the FA Cup final. Pure class.
     
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  46. Illinihockey

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    Torres was great but man I wish we could have seen Gerrard in his prime with Suarez. That would have been insane.

    Also I can't remember what pod it was but think of how many more goals Gerrard would have had if he wasn't forces to take corners his entire career
     
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