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  1. RU-Omega Potato

    RU-Omega Potato We play 'til the gun you crotchety old bitch.
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    Watch this and then think about the depth that could be built if we decided to trade away Romo & Dez (straight up. no tricks) for high draft picks over the next 2 years from teams that need a QB and a star receiver.




    I'm not talking about David Copperfield doing magic tricks for retarded kids the way Jimmi took the Vikings. I'm talking about straight up deals for high picks with teams desperate enough to go for it (and you know they're out there). We're winning without either of these guys on the field right now and what you could build with properly selected youth could really put us back into Dynasty mode. We've really, really drafted well the last few years so maybe it's not as far fetched as it might originally seem.
     
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  2. Buff_Ruffnek

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    Do you think Jerrah would part with either Tony or Dez ?
     
  3. Tony Ray Bans

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    I just can't get on board with trading Dez. I think when he's healthy he's among the best receivers in the league and we would be lucky to find someone of equal skill in the next 2 or 3 drafts even if we used first round picks which I would prefer to use on defense anyway. That is just my opinion and I will openly admit a lot of it is driven by my fandom of Dez but I would be more upset about losing Dez than Romo
     
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  4. dallasdawg

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    trading dez is dumb as shit and I'm not even going to get into it further than that
     
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  5. Arkadin

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    I don't think you trade dez, and I don't think you're getting anything worth trading Romo for and being back in the place of one injury away from 3 wins
     
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  6. jrmy

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    I don't agree with trading Dez with Williams contract up soon. Beas is an elite slot receiver but if Williams leaves that leaves you with inconsistent as hell Butler and who else on the outside?
     
  7. Tony Ray Bans

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    I think we are going to need to use a draft pick in the 2nd or 3rd round on a WR to replace Williams. He had his bright moments but I think we can do better
     
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  8. zachary

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    No way in hell you trade Dez. Fuck that idea. I can't think of any WR in CFB right now that would come close to his talent
     
  9. RU-Omega Potato

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    Sorry but imo Dez is starting to break down. I hope GMs around the league feel the same way you guys do if we shop him around.

    7 years in the league and 2 years removed from an All-Everything season. Since then 12 games total and not all that impressive when he did play last season. Remember, people thought Jimmi & Jerry were nuts to trade Walker and he was in his prime.

    Edit: FWIW I hope he comes back and has a monster rest of the season but I hope it acts as an audition tape for somebody else. Cowboys have also gotten pretty good lately at identifying when it's time to go (Murray). This really wouldn't be much different than that.
     
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  10. Tony Ray Bans

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    When he played against the Eagles last year (even with Weeden at QB) he balled and caught an insane TD in triple coverage. Dude is a beast IMO. I really hope we don't trade him. It could be 5 years before we have a WR that good on our team again
     
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  11. Al Bundy

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    I thought Dez really sucked when he played last year but it was probably more rust than anything. He dropped some big passes. I'd take a late first for him in a second.

    I'm not down on Dez though. I think he still has some good years left. Hard to ignore the injuries and big contract though.
     
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  12. jrmy

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    You would have to be a mega potato to want to trade Dez
     
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  13. Buff_Ruffnek

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    I just wish 88 would get healthy,
    When he's a 100% he is a game changer, fairly certain T Williams is gone after this year, unless he'll resign a team friendly deal.
     
  14. Tony Ray Bans

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    http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2016...z-bryant-is-a-nightmare-for-opposing-defenses
    Lost in the midst of a media-laced "quarterback controversy" is the fact that some injured Cowboys are on their way back to the offense. We can discuss the Darren McFadden's and James Hanna's of the world later. The big return comes in the form of the Cowboys most demonstrative receiver who's been cleared to go. Dez Bryant doesn't want to hear any more questions about his health.


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    Dez Bryant is ready to be part of the huge divisional showdown on the eve of Halloween and ready to be a part of a winning team at 5-1. As the Cowboys prepare for their bye week, they'll be welcoming a dominant face back into the lineup.

    The last time this offense was truly rolling was in 2014 and there are some similarities in that team and this team. Both teams dominated on third-down percentage, both teams had the league's top rusher and both teams had defenses that could make big plays at crucial times in the game. These two almost look like mirror-images of each other. The one thing that is truly missing is a dominating receiving presence, although, you could make an argument for Cole Beasley right now. Dez Bryant broke the franchise record for receiving touchdowns in 2014 with 16.


    Since 2010, Dez Bryant is second on the active receivier touchdowns list with 60, the only player with more touchdowns is Rob Gronkowski. It's not like the 2014 team dominated in passing statistics (16th) and they're currently 20th as we speak. Still, they dominated in scoring and that's what they are doing right now and getting better with each week. That should only increase with the addition of Dez Bryant. It really doesn't matter the quarterback in this argument, Dez will Dez and when he does, it can dominate games.

    The Cowboys don't have to be the most outstanding passing attack because that's not their M.O.; they win by pushing guys off the ball and slowing the game way down with their running attack. They want to physically beat up the opposing teams and that's where a guy like Bryant can become a nightmare. In 2014, as Romo was putting the ball in the gut of DeMarco Murray and the offensive line was doing what they do, people would have to pick their poison. When they would load the box against the run, that's when Bryant would strike.

    As much that has been made about Dak's unwillingness to throw the ball deep, there isn't much reason for him to do so and not much truth behind that either. Dak Prescott is currently second in the league in yards-per-attempt with 8.2, it's not like he can't get the ball in the air when he wants to. He's not at Tony Romo-level of throwing the ball deep with 47 yards being his longest throw but Dak has put some great touch on his passes as was seen against Green Bay to Brice Butler.


    The deep ball is a wrinkle that will come with time but it's just as much about the timing of that throw than anything else. Dez Bryant's impact isn't diminished by not hauling in 68-yard bombs once a game. He can do extreme damage in every facet of the passing game. He's a mismatch for anyone and can be used in the slot, on slants, on screens; you get the point.

    It's why when you hear people like Donovan McNabb and some Twitter ranters discuss the possibility of trading his talent, it's met with laughs and serious pondering of those people's credentials. Dez Bryant is not a run-of-the-mill talent that's easily replaceable. He's one of the most physical receivers in the NFL and it makes covering him a tall task for anyone who dares to take it.

    Last year, the Dallas Cowboys were without Dez Bryant and Tony Romo and were cooked from the beginning. This year, the receivers like Butler, Terrance Williams, and Cole Beasley have come to life in their absences. Still, don't get it twisted, Dak deserves some iof that credit because he's getting them the ball. The receivers didn't just come to life, they have a better signal-caller. With Dez back in the fold, this offense can reach even new levels of destruction on defenses across the league.

    Josh Norman made headlines last season when he suggested that the Cowboys' get back the $70 million that they paid Bryant. As entertaining as that was, Norman knew he was picking on a guy with a foot injury that was never right in 2015. It seems somehow, some way, his tune changed and here's what he said about Dez recently before their matchup in week two:

    "Man, he’s a hard guy to control," Norman said. "Once he gets that motor going, it’s all she wrote. He’s a physical specimen. He gets the ball at the highest point. He’s a threat, man. He’s a threat. It will be exciting to see that again. Looking forward to it as always."

    "You’ve got to respect the good ones, the great ones," Norman said. "You go out there and disrespect somebody once and they come back and they hear that and you go on the field and you see them torch you for 100-some yards. It will be a little issue there. You swallow a big piece of humble pie beyond that. I respect each and every one of them for what they do in their craft. Their freak athletes at the top of their games, elite as they come. I want to compare myself up against that. If I can come within a measure of that, I’ll be OK."

    Those statements are what we're talking about here when we get excited about Bryant's return. He's the type of guy that defenses don't want to get revved up. Once he starts, the pounding usually doesn't stop. I'll remind you guys that the Cowboys got their behinds spanked against the Eagles on Thanksgiving in 2014. After the game, all Dez Bryant would say is that he's going to tag them back. Before the game, Malcolm Jenkins and Bradley Fletcher were jawing back and forth with Dez. When the game started, Bryant absolutely torched the Eagles' secondary for six receptions, 114 yards, and three touchdowns.

    That's the Dez Bryant that this team needs down the stretch. The guy that once a defense is bruised by the running game, he can put it away with devastating performances. It doesn't take much to get Bryant going and once he does; watch out NFL.
     
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  15. RU-Omega Potato

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    Here's to hoping he's 100% and stays that way.
     
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  16. Buff_Ruffnek

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    Dak is going to start against the fecals...:woot:
     
  17. Buff_Ruffnek

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    And congrats to David Irving, NFL Defensive Player of the Week...
     
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  18. Tony Ray Bans

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    Just a hell of a game man. 3 forced fumbles and a sack. Dude played 19 snaps
     
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  19. Buff_Ruffnek

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    Pretty damned good use of his oppurtunities, hope he sees alot more time on the field as in pass rushing...like Dallas is way ahead and the opponents have abandoned the run game...
     
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  20. jrmy

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  21. Tony Ray Bans

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    Agreed. We probably have to let one of Carr or Mo walk. I would prefer to keep Mo. For a 6th round pick Anthony Brown has been a STEAL. Slid right in for Scandrick and made some great plays in the slot and last game went to the outside and played GREAT in place of Mo.
     
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  22. Arkadin

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    Wouldn't get my hopes up on Jaylon unfortunately
     
  23. zachary

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    wouldn't mind letting Carr walk at all
     
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  24. Crepeswithasmile

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    why do you say that? everything that's been reported lately suggests that he could possibly be ready to play the last quarter of the season.
     
  25. Arkadin

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    That's just a bad injury. So hard for people to come back anywhere close to what they were before. I'm rooting for him, but I wouldn't get my hopes up at all
     
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  26. zachary

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    fuck u debbie downer
     
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  27. Arkadin

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    Tell that to Robert Edwards
     
  28. Crepeswithasmile

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    i never will forget watching his knee explode on that beach in Hawaii. thought he was going to be a good rb in the league.
     
  29. Arkadin

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    yeah, same. a young ark loved that guy
     
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  30. * J Y *

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    Would need to see the offer for Dez. If a team wanted to overpay you'd really have to look at it.
     
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  31. Tony Ray Bans

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    even if a team offered us what we gave up for Roy Williams, I don't think I would do it and I don't think you'd get that from anyone. Only the Pre-Stephen Jones cowboys are that dumb
     
  32. * J Y *

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    I'd do a 1st and 2nd if there was a wr equivalent to Zeke in the draft. I'm bearish on Dez though.
     
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  33. Tony Ray Bans

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    Understandable, given that. I just haven't seen a receiver in college at the moment I would want more than him. Even this last draft didn't have that guy IMO
     
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  34. * J Y *

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    Yea I don't think he's there.
     
  35. Arkadin

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    No one is giving up that draft pick to take that guy to trade for dez...
     
  36. jrmy

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    I bet the Raiders would trade us all their picks for Dez
     
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  37. Tony Ray Bans

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    Man I am really excited to have Dak but part of me will be sad we will probably never seen Tony get a ring

     
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  38. NineteenNine

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    He'll get one as a backup this year.
     
  39. Tony Ray Bans

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    Huge game tonight. I hope the Eagles who played the Redskins show up instead of the Eagles who beat the vikings last week. Lets hope Dez has his usual big day against Philly as well
     
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  40. FightingCock

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    I traded him for Beasley and Tyrell Williams so hope not lol
     
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  41. Tony Ray Bans

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    I am starting Beas today so I hope he gets his but I will take a 1000 point fantasy loss in exchange for a Dallas win haha
     
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  42. zachary

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    So excited for this game tonight. This will be a good tough game no doubt
     
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  43. Arkadin

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  44. Tony Ray Bans

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    Man i hope that isnt true. Ever since the screenshots of the texts came out where the girl was asking people to lie for her I kind of filed it under "non-story" but sometimes where theres smoke theres fire :/
     
  45. dump

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    He doesnt deserve one
     
  46. Tony Ray Bans

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    Everyone can't have the heart and drive of Johnny Football
     
  47. dallasdawg

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    "Could"
     
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  48. zachary

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    I'm not worried in the slightest bit. Nothing will come of this
     
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  49. jltperson

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    :facepalm:
     
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  50. Al Bundy

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    Welp....I think we should let zeke play more and carry the football and stuff.