BIRMINGHAM THREAD (Home of the 2022 World Games & a Better Place to Visit than Serbia)

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  1. ramszoolander

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    FWIW compared to other karting tracks, Autobahn is dirt cheap.
     
  2. Barves2125

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    I've heard that chicken place out there is shit. Thoughts?
     
  3. TheFreak55

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    I tried it once and shit was a perfect way to describe it. Co-workers keep going and say it has gotten better but still inconsistent as fuck
     
  4. Barves2125

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    Heard the chicken was meh and the sides were garbage. Haven't tried it myself.
     
  5. TheFreak55

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    I wouldn't bother trying it just go on over to Area 41 pizza
     
  6. je ne suis pas ici

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    bham CC debating raising minimum wage to 10.10. not trying to turn this into a political rant but its more so:

    1. this is to distract people from giving themselves a 200+ % raise
    2. doing it this quick/fly by the night shit (they set the agenda YESTERDAY) is stupid as any huge policy change like this needs input from everyone
    3. gonna fuck up shit that relies on part time work (say, hop city, or people working at a barons game, even the summit is bham) and raise prices immediately for the rest of us. woulda been nice to give those types at least a chance to speak on it.
    4. they still wont bring uber so fuck them
     
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  7. TheFreak55

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    Anybody gone or going anywhere specific for restaurant week?
     
  8. je ne suis pas ici

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    it passed. up to 8.50 next year and 10.10 in 17

    enjoy restaurant week now when you can, because you'll be picking up the tab for the restaurants increase in wages now.

    we should really just legislate everyone has to have a job and own a car too. ban poverty while we are at it
     
  9. PrinceWimbley

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    you sure?
     
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  10. Merica

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    :roll:

    You know those increased wages going to workers don't just disappear right? They now have more money to contribute to the local economy.

    And waiters don't make minimum wages anyway. Most of the cooks don't either. The dishwashers, the hostesses, and the food runners are the only people this will even affect in a sit down restaurant. That's like 4 people tops in a night going from $8-$10.

    If restaurants raise their prices it's because they feel like they can take advantage of some suckers.
     
  11. Capstone 88

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    SWIM doesn't like giving anyone a chance to better themselves in this country if they're not already white and upper middle class or above.
     
  12. je ne suis pas ici

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    minimum wages arent meant to be living wages. thats kinda the point. its for part timers, teenagers etc. now those same teenagers wont be able to get a job while someone who is ok making minimum wage and only 1 40 hr a week job as opposed to getting 2-3 jobs or trying to get scholarships for night school takes it instead.

    youre not expanding the pie capstone, only divvying it up differently.

    its akin to moving veggies around your plate, you may wanna act like it shows you've done eaten it, but really you havent done shit
     
  13. Merica

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    Minimum wages aren't meant to be living wages, but they are living wages for millions in this country. I love how you paint it as "someone who is okay making minimum wage" and not "someone who has no other job prospects but to make minimum wage." I guess they could live off the government tit or sell drugs, but you'd paint that as worse.

    So what exactly are they supposed to do?

    And I'm not sure what the hell you're trying to say in your veggie analogy honestly.

    (For the record I don't think you don't want other races to have an opportunity to better themselves, I just think you can be a bit myopic when it comes to people with different backgrounds than you.)
     
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  14. Barves2125

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    Swim is more worried about teenagers finding part-time jobs than he's worried about uneducated adults being able to find full-time employment.
     
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  15. TheFreak55

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  16. je ne suis pas ici

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    yes. highlands. tmrw. i am excite.
     
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  17. MA

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    Made my first foray into Avondale this weekend. Went to Post Office Pies. It's quite the diverse area.
     
  18. colonel_forbin

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    Well, but then you have the macroeconomic argument that increasing wages increases everything through inflation because the bottom dollar is worth less, so increasing minimum wage does nothing at all since all prices will increase.

    Not getting into that argument and I don't feel like we need to have some huge macroeconomic discussion, but I don't think you're doing the situation justice by just thinking that increasing wages will mean those costs will only get passed to the restaurant owners and no one else, and all other markets will benefit without any costs being passed to them.
     
  19. Merica

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    Obviously the costs will be passed on in a ton of ways. My main point is that people tend to view the increase in labor costs in a vacuum, while avoiding the fact that more people now have more income to buy things.

    Your profit margin might decrease if you keep your prices the same, but you also have a larger pool of potential customers since their income has increased. So there's a potential for you to make more money even if your profit margin has decreased.

    Or again, you can take advantage of suckers who have no clue about your cost structure, and increase your prices to the point that you have a larger profit margin while using increased labor costs as justification.

    For the record I think it's pretty shady how quickly this passed with zero input from the community before making the decision.
     
  20. TheFreak55

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    And what percentage of companies do you think will actually do it/view that way?
     
  21. Merica

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    I'll stop, but what are some things that happen during Restaurant week? Do a lot of places have specials or anything? :idk: I don't think I've ever participated.
     
  22. Merica

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    I don't know. If they raise their prices too much, people will stop buying from them and other places will capitalize on it.

    Again, all this means is more people will have more money. I guess some businesses could shut down out of principle but I doubt that will happen because they still want to make money even if they don't agree with this decision.

    I'd imagine this affects manufacturing more than anything since their products are actually being sold up against businesses outside the city limits that don't have the same minimum wage laws, but honestly I don't even know how much manufacturing is going on in downtown Birmingham these days.
     
  23. PrinceWimbley

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    http://www.bhamrestaurantweek.com/
     
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  24. colonel_forbin

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    Yeah but more money =/= more buying power. If minimum wage gets increased $1 but a gallon of milk and a loaf of bread each go up $.50, then buying power is the same. It doesn't matter that they are making more money.
     
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  25. Merica

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    That depends on the businesses. They all aren't going to increase their prices and the ones that do won't do it at the same rate. If one business has raised its prices to the point where they are no longer competitive, then that business will fail unless they are selling a premium item.

    At which point you have to wonder if they even pay their employees minimum wages at all. Since your expectation is that you'll receive excellent service in an exceptionally clean environment, the employees are going to be compensated for their above average service.

    And even if their buying power within the city doesn't increase as you say, their buying power is still increased on a macro level. Their cable bill, their credit card bill, their car payment, etc. will be more affordable to them, meaning they have more money to spend within the city on services and goods.

    So yes it does matter that they are making more money.
     
  26. One Two

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    Let's argue over a wage increase that will do nothing to help minimum wage workers get out of poverty levels and only move fast food companies closer to replacing 75% of their employees with self ordering machines. Cool.
     
  27. Where Eagles Dare

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    Except that isn't the fucking point. Unless FDR was just bullshitting everyone.

    "No business which depends for existence on paying less than living wages to its workers has any right to continue in this country."

    ....

    "By living wages, I mean more than a bare subsistence level—I mean the wages of a decent living."
     
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  28. Hoss Bonaventure

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    This FDR fellow sounds like a dirty, commie, pinko bastard.
     
  29. Redav

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    Swim probably hates fdr fwiw
     
  30. Where Eagles Dare

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    Still doesn't negate the reasoning behind minimum wage.
     
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  31. Redav

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    I love fdr fwiw
     
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  32. Where Eagles Dare

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    What reasonable socials american wouldnt?
     
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  33. wes tegg

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  34. Barves2125

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    Agreed. Let's get back to universally agreed upon facts.

    For instance, Milo's is fucking delicious!
     
  35. PrinceWimbley

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    I have this sweet hat:

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  36. Capstone 88

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    Fuck you.
     
  37. TheFreak55

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    Milo's is a shitty burger that they have to cover in sauce to make edible
     
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  38. je ne suis pas ici

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    Lol at Merica and Where Eagles Dare runnin to the commie thread to bring reinforcements into the fucking birmingham thread

    Pathetic
     
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  39. southlick

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    Take this to the appropriate left/right thread imo
     
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  40. Where Eagles Dare

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    That was only Merica. I came here and read ur bullshit after seeing his post.

    Carry on, little brother city
     
  41. Merica

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  42. ramszoolander

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  43. ramszoolander

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  44. ramszoolander

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    THIS IS TERRIBLE BUT STILL BETTER THAN MOST OF THE POSTS ON THIS PAGE
     
  45. ramszoolander

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    ALMOST THERE...
     
  46. ramszoolander

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    ...FREE AT LAST....
     
  47. ramszoolander

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    ...FREE AT LAST...
     
  48. ramszoolander

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    THANK GOD ALMIGHTY
     
  49. ramszoolander

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    WE ARE FREE AT LAST
     
  50. ramszoolander

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    (almost, at least)