The Wall

Discussion in 'Game of Thrones (ASOIAF)' started by friedskillet, Apr 24, 2012.

  1. skiedfrillet

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    i haven't read the books, and don't want to get buttfucked by spoilers if i look this up, so can anyone tell me what the shit the wall is and where it came from? TIA
     
  2. Lawnole23

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    Brandon the Builder built thousands of years prior with "magic." No one knows how it was actually built. It's basically there to keep the wildlings and Others out of Westeros.
     
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  3. skiedfrillet

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    :respek:
     
  4. Verbal Kint

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    They did say that when he raised it they used spells as well. In the old days the Night's Watch would continually raise it higher with ice and rocks (mainly ice) but in the last couple of centuries they've continually lost man power so they don't have the numbers to build and are simply maintaining. They never explicitly say why the numbers are down but the logic seems to be that before Aegon the Conqueror came and conquered the 7 Kingdoms and started the Targaryan rule and Westeros was actually 7 kingdoms that constantly warred, fought, bickerred, etc the Wall was a perfect place for defeated lords and soldiers to go and still maintain some honor but no longer be a threat. So the Night's Watch was honorable and filled with knights, lords, princes, etc. Once the 7 kingdoms fell under one rule and the constant fighting stopped, the Watch was no longer serving that purpose and became manned almost solely by criminals, cripples or those in disgrace
     
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  5. skiedfrillet

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    is there a book or something out there that tells the stories pre-GoT?
     
  6. zeberdee

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    nothing about Robert's Rebellion or the time of Brandon the Builder, but there are the Tales of Dunk & Egg which provide a little bit of backstory.
     
  7. skiedfrillet

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    that'd be a pretty awesome movie imo. the shit leading up to first season of GoT
     
  8. Babou

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    Did the Children of the Forest help Brandon with the wall or did he just learn some of the magic from them? Can't remember.

    Also, I thought initially it was just for the Others, and the wildlings (along with fighting them) kind of happened over the centuries while people thought the threat of the Others was gone.
     
  9. Arkie Proud

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    I never thought about this, but it makes perfect sense. I always figured that, at one time, the area north of the wall was a legitimate threat and taking the Black was honorable because you had a purpose. Now, everyone thinks the area north of the wall is full of 'grumkins and snarks' and taking the black is a fool's errand. Your theory is better.
     
  10. LT8

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    It was initially just for the Others, wasn't build to keep the wildlings out.
     
  11. Lawnole23

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    The Children of the Forest worked with the First Men to fight back the Others then they built the Wall. It was originally to keep the Other out but now keeps the Wildlings out as well.
     
  12. kentucky_dawg

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    Would you recommend reading this series?
     
  13. zeberdee

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    yea, definitely. I really enjoyed them. they're easy reads too. all three are probably less reading (and definitely less intense reading) than one ASOIAF book.
     
  14. London Humphreys

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    Absolutely. They are all less than 100 pages each and shed a lot of light on all things blackfyre, and introduce you to some of the Targs that you hear mentioned in the main books.
     
  15. zeberdee

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    I think they're closer to like 200-250 pages each IIRC.
     
  16. London Humphreys

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    I read them on e-versions on the iPad, and they were all less than 100. I didn't buy them because they were part of collections that I didn't give a shit about.
     
  17. zeberdee

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    hmm...I don't know. I have an e-version too I read on my phone. it was all three in one file and each book was 200-250 pages. not sure what the difference is.

    either way, it's an easy and fun read. highly suggest them.
     
  18. Eamudo229

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    Where did you get them from? I recently got an IPad and would like to read them and like yourself, I have no intention a buying a collection of a bunch of other shit I don't care about.
     
  19. LT8

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    Download them off demoniod. Then download the program Calibre. Upload the torrance into Calibre and then hook your iPad up to your computer and transfer it to that. Might be an easier way, but this is what I do.
     
  20. London Humphreys

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    I found PDFs on frost wire and used docs to go to transfer them to iPad. I then selected to open them in the kindle app.
     
  21. Arkie Proud

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    Calibre and iPads do not get along because Steve Jobs was a huge fucking tool and I'm glad he's dead. You have to somehow use iTunes to sideload books to iPad. Goddam I hate Apple.

    Also, I have all three D&E stories. PM me if you want them.

    /rant
     
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  22. Swt

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    My mac use to work fine with calibre but now it does the shit Arkie says. I think I just send it to Itunes, then from itunes to my phone.