DotA 2: -APEM pros only go fast!

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  1. J.R. Bob Dobbs

    J.R. Bob Dobbs Fan of: Firing Coaches, Cutting Players


    don't do it at TI5
     
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  2. miles

    miles All I know is my gut says, maybe
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    Today, miles attempts to learn space cow
     
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  3. BrickTamland

    BrickTamland You're not Ron...
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    Engage

    Disengage

    Re-engage

    Your nuke is your face: throw it at squishy shits repeatedly.
     
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  4. OTM

    OTM Apathy chic: you can't be hurt if you don't care.
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    Also, if a team fight breaks out, you can charge a target in the back and stun multiple heroes.
     
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  5. BrickTamland

    BrickTamland You're not Ron...
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    miles

    pro-tip: before charging an Invoker (which I suggest doing early and often,) make sure he doesn't have a cold-snap ready before you end up on dotawtf
     
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  6. LuPoor

    LuPoor Cuddle with the homies watching Stand By Me
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    MoM is way overrated on SB. Don't build it.

    Aghs on SB is the ripe tits. Build it like second or third item.
     
  7. J.R. Bob Dobbs

    J.R. Bob Dobbs Fan of: Firing Coaches, Cutting Players

    >being able to farm an aghs on sb without mask

    ???
     
  8. BrickTamland

    BrickTamland You're not Ron...
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    I've been building spirit breaker in the following way:
    1. Urn
    2. Treads
    3. SB/SE (situatonal)
    4. Vlads (if no one else is carrying it)
    5. AC
    If the game isn't over by this point, you've lost.
     
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  9. LuPoor

    LuPoor Cuddle with the homies watching Stand By Me
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    Kill things. I'd rather pay more money for a Vlad's than get a MoM. In my experience of diving face first into team fights with him, the upped damage you take has a bigger effect than your increased attack speed.
     
  10. J.R. Bob Dobbs

    J.R. Bob Dobbs Fan of: Firing Coaches, Cutting Players


    >killing things post 11 minutes without mask

    ????


    mask of madness offers insane dps and value for 1800 gold. Plus you can use it to farm the jungle.
     
  11. LuPoor

    LuPoor Cuddle with the homies watching Stand By Me
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    I play (lol like I ever play anymore) him as a 4/5. Items that will would let me farm the jungle quicker are (were) of little interest to me. I farm(ed) people, not jungle camps. Treads wand urn glimmer was a nice early build for poverty cow.
     
  12. miles

    miles All I know is my gut says, maybe
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    Is there a difference in build for him if you're playing as a 4, rather than a 3?
     
  13. OTM

    OTM Apathy chic: you can't be hurt if you don't care.
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    Urn wand lothar's seems to work for skillet.
     
  14. RonBurgundy

    RonBurgundy Well-Known Member

    Any tips on Arc Warden? He has horrendously bad win rates in trash tier but with Midas->Necro->BoTs->Rapiers build and rat your clone to victory looks really really tough to bring down aka What Fear raped a pro team with.
     
  15. LuPoor

    LuPoor Cuddle with the homies watching Stand By Me
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    My god. Techies yesterday and arc warden today? I want you to die
     
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  16. RonBurgundy

    RonBurgundy Well-Known Member

    All part of the All-Hero-Challenge. After learning the game a little, I thought it would be good to learn to play all the heroes. Not my fault valve put techies next to AW.

    37 left.
     
  17. J.R. Bob Dobbs

    J.R. Bob Dobbs Fan of: Firing Coaches, Cutting Players


    go safelane

    rush midas BOTs rapiers



    if you get an early midas, you win

    if they crush your lane, you lose.
     
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  18. Skiddly

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    Aghs space cow? wut?
     
  19. LuPoor

    LuPoor Cuddle with the homies watching Stand By Me
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    Does an AoE bash on nether strike with a 20 second CD sound good to you (RIP 12 second CD)? It's the best thing you can do for him if the game is all 5v5 team fights.
     
  20. Skiddly

    Skiddly Well-Known Member
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    I don't think it sounds all that good at all tbh :P
     
  21. J.R. Bob Dobbs

    J.R. Bob Dobbs Fan of: Firing Coaches, Cutting Players

    It isn't.

    4300 gold to maybe get your ult off twoxe
     
  22. RonBurgundy

    RonBurgundy Well-Known Member

    Rat Doto. I took 5 towers and a set of racks and we still got beat. CANCEROUS

    http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2138736999

    4th Rapier was on its way back from shop as they took the ancient.

    I've looked at Dotabuff and saw a bunch of high level guys get a MoM? Should I do that?
     
  23. miles

    miles All I know is my gut says, maybe
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    When the other team picks Ursa/SF/Omni and Omni just follows Ursa around the entire game, permanently casting repel

    Kill me pete
     
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  24. miles

    miles All I know is my gut says, maybe
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    dazzle build pls
     
  25. BrickTamland

    BrickTamland You're not Ron...
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    Too situational to post a skill build, but generally poison touch and shallow grave are value points while maxing shadow wave and taking your ult whenever possible. Max grave over poison touch afterwards.

    Arcanes (into guardian greaves late game) and urn are generally a safe bet.

    You're a poor 5, so obviously all the wards, dust, sentries, smoke are on you.
     
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  26. swiggle

    swiggle Ya'll finished or ya'll done?
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    If you do get a little stash of gold, Force Staff and Glimmer Cape work well.

    Also good to ALWAYS carry a tp scroll with you. If you happen to get ganked, and those doing it have no lockdown, you can grave yourself and tp away.
     
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  27. LuPoor

    LuPoor Cuddle with the homies watching Stand By Me
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    Concur on everything said so far, would like to add that MoC/solar crest is also very good on dazzle. Weave + solar crest is an insane amount of armor addition/reduction, and shadow wave is physical damage so it's got nice synergy.
     
  28. swiggle

    swiggle Ya'll finished or ya'll done?
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    Good call on the medallion. I was thinking of that after I posted and couldn't remember it's name.
     
  29. swiggle

    swiggle Ya'll finished or ya'll done?
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    Fucking steam maintenance
     
  30. BrickTamland

    BrickTamland You're not Ron...
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    THE DOTA 2 GAME COORDINATOR IS A LAZY WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT.
     
  31. swiggle

    swiggle Ya'll finished or ya'll done?
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    Dont know if dota can get any easier than that last game
     
  32. Name P. Redacted

    Name P. Redacted I have no money and I'm also gay
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    when your team doesn't buy obs or sentry wards
     
  33. RonBurgundy

    RonBurgundy Well-Known Member

    FUCKING PUT THE TEAM ON MY BACK THO. You're welcome for my rat dota, taking your towers, gankin your snipers.

    4 Rapiers is pretty hilarious.

    http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2141006953

    Actually a miserable team to rat against, much prefer 1-2 supports who die in 3 hits.

    Also, MoM is excellent mid to late for rat pushing lanes before Rapiers are up.

    Also, so fucking impossible to stop cheese like that. I can take t3 towers in like 5 seconds. Never playing that shit again. They ended up turtling to try to protect t3 and racks after 40 minutes, they never crossed river after 50 minutes. Such a dumb way to play dota.
     
  34. OTM

    OTM Apathy chic: you can't be hurt if you don't care.
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    Now you know why I hate Alliance.
     
  35. miles

    miles All I know is my gut says, maybe
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    cegtfc
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    I made the mistake of rewatching the end of our 70 minute loss last night so I could understand what happened. It was worse than I imagined.

    For the rest of you: we have mid-racks down, a pickoff, and are heading down mid for the GG push. We've generally been winning team fights for the last 10-15 minutes. We move to high ground, initiate the fight... and our Slark walks outside their base.. and TPs away... to defend a tier 3 tower. We narrowly lose the teamfight, and they march down and end the game.

    :killme:

    I thought he just never joined the push. He was fucking there and left.
     
  36. skiedfrillet

    skiedfrillet It's not a lie if you believe it.
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    Clemson Tigers

    now you understand why i raged so hard before logging
     
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  37. swiggle

    swiggle Ya'll finished or ya'll done?
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    I do remember wondering why the fuck he tp'ed to bottom lane. So so bad.
     
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  38. OTM

    OTM Apathy chic: you can't be hurt if you don't care.
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    If only you guys got to witness the oracle Lina lane that followed. Amirite cegtfc?
     
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  39. miles

    miles All I know is my gut says, maybe
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    :cerealkiller:
     
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  40. swiggle

    swiggle Ya'll finished or ya'll done?
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    I had an alright time
     
  41. OTM

    OTM Apathy chic: you can't be hurt if you don't care.
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    Wait you're not swiggle are you?
     
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  42. miles

    miles All I know is my gut says, maybe
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    Yes
     
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  43. OTM

    OTM Apathy chic: you can't be hurt if you don't care.
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    SHIT
     
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  44. OTM

    OTM Apathy chic: you can't be hurt if you don't care.
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    I'M SO CONFUSED
     
  45. OTM

    OTM Apathy chic: you can't be hurt if you don't care.
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    But yeah, Oracle + Lina nuke is insane.
     
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  46. miles

    miles All I know is my gut says, maybe
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    fwiw I am swiggle and that bum Sadpanda is cegtfc
     
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  47. Stylee

    Stylee Well-Known Member
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    I had you guys mixed up too
     
  48. swiggle

    swiggle Ya'll finished or ya'll done?
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  49. OTM

    OTM Apathy chic: you can't be hurt if you don't care.
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    MAYBE IF YOU USED YOUR TMB NAMES
     
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  50. miles

    miles All I know is my gut says, maybe
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    Haha, I was spectating your guys game last night

    Was what i meant by :cerealkiller:
     
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