TMB Weightlifting Thread: Learn to Swim

I'm just spitballing based on my knowledge of anatomy so I could be wrong, but wouldn't the hang clean work the hammys less than starting from the ground? Not getting the full range of motion? Or is it a time under tension thing?

I saw the most ingenious thing at the gym today. Using the prone leg curl to do hip thrusts.

 

Power clean uses more leg drive while the hang clean uses more upper back imo.

Been running 531 BBB for two cycles now. Seen great improvement on OHP and bench. Squat and deadlift have stalled a little bit. Should I incorporate another squat or DL day but keep it light?

 

Time under tension. It's like good mornings tier agony if you do cycling from the hang. Even in a pull from the ground, you load your hammies when you past the knee for the big pull.

 

I feel like when I lift it past my knees I'm not in position to explode with my hips to get the bar up. So I deadlift, then pause, then hang clean is what ends up happening

 

Do you finish in a squat or the power position?

 

The terminology aside, if your issue is power from the floor, make sure your chest rises before your butt. I am 99% confident that you're losing power because your ass goes up and your chest has to catch up, leaving you in a hang-- trick is to get in a good squat position and make sure your chest moves first, the bar moves vertically, and you slam your hips into it when it reaches them. You should be leaned back and flying by then.

Do some lightweight cycling from the floor. Floor to hang. Floor to hang to hips (called power position, unfortunately). Floor to hang to hips to front rack. Floor to hang to hips to front rack to squat. Cycle cycle cycle. You'll see where the weakness comes.

 

Caveat: I'm just some dude

 

That should work. Get some volume in with a variation like front squats.

 

Thinking about it and this seems right. I think my hips are rising up so my legs are too straight when the bar goes past my knees which is why my hips have nowhere to go.

 

Go forth my friend

 

BrentTray Could also be a form issue. Take videos of your sets and try to diagnose the issue

 

Well I found exactly where I injured my hip. If y'all remember last November I had an arm injury where some fibers got really bundled up down my inner biceps and it felt like a bass guitar string. I've been prying around my hips with my back buddy tool and last night as I was laying in bed I felt into my groin (hey now) at a different angle and found the exact same bass guitar string. Once I located it, I can now feel it with my hands in normal positions. It's one of my adductors. Time to hit up my sports doc to get some manual therapy on that bad boy. He had my arm healed up quickly, so hopefully I'll get similar results.

I've squatted and deadlifted like twice in 5 weeks. I'm gon' be so weak.

 

That sounds amazingly painful

 

I don't expect it to be particularly pleasant.

 

Most people call them "Asian Massage Parlors"

Good luck on your recovery.

 

Bench last night. 265x3 went fast especially the initial explosion off the chest. Lockout still needs work. OHP after that 145 three sets of 10.

 

Going to the American Open (Mattie Rogers swooooon) in December then my first powerlifting meet in Jan. Meathead winter in full swing.

 

just sauteed kale for the first time with evoo salt and pepper and put some hot sauce on it. it was terrible.

 

did legs on monday. going to do them again today I think. Friday afternoon is usually pretty dead at my gym which is nice. I've been doing squats, leg press, leg extensions and two other machine lifts on leg days. Been doing deadlifts on back/bi day. Yah I know I need to separate into push/pull exercises.

 

Fuck leg extensions. You're already hitting quads twice with squat and press which both work quads way more. You don't need to rip your knee up. Leg curls and glute bridges should be in your arsenal or you're going to have a major imbalance. Back/bi day is perfectly fine and efficient since you only need 1 or 2 exercises to hit the biceps fully (seated incline curl is my recommendation). Push/pull days are usually talked about in the context of compound movements. Don't matter as much on your accessories.

 

I do leg curls. Maybe I'll take out leg extensions. I like seated incline DB curls as well for biceps.

 

I enjoy me some leg hyper extensions as well as a glute/hammy accessory

 

our private board, sans WED and I, has an obsession with calf raises

 

I don't want to jinx myself, but I watched the video below and used my muti-dildo toy (AKA body back buddy) last night and I THINK I released the area and broke up the adhesion. I'm going to continue with manual therapy over the next week. While it's a bit tender from the actual digging as can be expected, my range of motion is noticeably better and I have zero pain at hip extension as I have been.

Will continue to monitor and see where it is in a few days to know for sure. Chances of squatting and deadlifting Monday just improved dramatically regardless.

Pray for me fam.

 

you did nothing but triggered a pain control theory... breaking up adhesions is a load of bullshit. a surgeon uses a scalpel to cut through that shit during surgery.
your increased range of motion is from the pain control theory that you triggered and the only way you can maintain that new range of motion is to automatically load the tissue or your body is going to shrink wrap back...sorry...from the east coast in physical therapy school on the west coast and this manual stuff has gone way to far. it has a place but its completely misunderstood

https://thesportsphysio.wordpress.com/2014/11/09/a-change-in-perception/

studies linked throughout the article and yes i have a lot more

 

Drugs only help a little

http://www.bbc.com/sport/olympics/37371735

 

Ilya is using? Well I'll be

 

#LeagalizeIt

 

There's pretty decent evidence for myofascial release being good for rotator cuff issues but that's about it

 

Why would it be good for one ball and socket joint and not the other?

 

again just pain control

 

There was also increased rom in some of them.

Edit: Decreased disability not increased rom

 

yep because pain control theory....basically anyone who is tight or lacks ROM is playing tug of war with their CNS. put that person under anesthesia and you could take a person with "tight hamstrings" and pin their knee cap to their nose.

so this increased ROM you get from the rubbing with butter knives and foam rolling is only temporary and you have to load that tissue in the new ROM to actually start to create a change...or the body is just going to shrink wrap back to the way it was

 

So would you suggest putting 95lb on the abr and sinking into a squat to increase ROM? Trying to learn something.

 

That's exactly what he's saying.

Weight that shit down and stretch it out.

 

Been doing this a bit lately to work on some ankle mobility. Sink into a goblet squat and push one knee forward for 15-20 secs then switch to the other knee.

 

quinn is juggernauts PT...ive attended several of his seminars and the dude is top class...ill post some videos below. i have some i can post when i get home...

 

I have an affinity for all things JTS

 

if anyone has a subscription to their forum. quinn has some of his full seminars on video that you can watch. fantastic information on squat, hinge and overhead assessments.

 

I did. I cancelled because Chad bitched out on his program. May resubscribe to listen to Quinn. I've thought about subscribing to Duffin's new site as well.

 

Cliffs on Chad

 

Chad's a chad

 

He was supposed to write an entire year of programming. Quit after 6 months.

 

Damn, I thought he had already written it in its entirety before releasing it.

 

He may have, but he was releasing it a week at a time. He did an AMA on reddit 2 days ago and he still hadn't released anything since June

 

Watched 8 of that PT Docs videos. Now incredibly disappointed I didn't at least attempt to pursue that kind of career