Totally agree. I get chills reading it as well. "We were not there." "Our knees do not bend easily." "We swore a vow."
its obviously sam the pussy slayer or jon dies, gets reborn, is released from his vows, saves the world, then rejoins the watch to prevent any sort of dispute over the true heir to the iron throne ala maester aemon
Reading ASOIAF the 2nd time (or 3rd or 4th) is like reading different books. So many things you don't pick up on or gloss over the first time. That being said, that TOJ sequence is one of the most powerful And iconic scenes in the series.
the second time I read aGOT was immediately after I finished it the first time. It was the only book I brought with me on vacation.
I missed so much on my first read through. 2nd was much better. Plus the mashup of 4 & 5 was really cool.
I don't think I've ever met someone who didn't enjoy the reread way more than the first read through.
I'm with you on the whole there are so many books out there that rereading books is a waste... But I enjoyed my reread of ASOIAF so much that I'm sure it made up for whatever 5 books I won't have time to read right before I die.
After reading ASOIAF- I tried to read a few books, might've finished one or two but they couldn't come close to the depth I had just finished so figured I had to start the reread, it's all I could think about when trying to read something else
A couple of thoughts that popped into my head during tonight's episode with everything at Hardhome- Randyll Tarly gets so fed up with Mace that when he finds out that Sam isn't a complete failure and real shit is going on north of the wall, he takes his army up there. The Others and the wights will get lured into King's Landing by Jaime where he'll sacrifice himself and kill his sister at the same time by setting off all of Aerys' wildfire.
13th Lord Commander, 13 'Other' aristocrats including the Night's King, things that make you go: hmmmm
What does "13th lord commander" refer to, though? Is that the one who supposedly turned into the Night's King?
yeah, I find it curious because we got all these other names/descriptions and tales from the age of heroes and the long night yet the night's watch (which back then was a pretty big damn deal) commanders (at least the first 12) don't have a name or at least a description that has passed down through history.
Yes. He was the 13th. I think the other theory is that he was a Stark, which would make him "know" who Jon is when he was staring at him in last night's episode.
I guess I didn't read as much into the stare as most people. I figured he was just paying extra attention to Jon because he realized he had a Valyrian steel sword, making him the only threat to the Others in that entire camp.
That very well be the case. The Stark tie in is just a theory. Jon was wrecking shop and he may have just noticed him and the sword and that's all it was.
AA/Brandon Stark went to fight the long night with 12 companions. They all became white walkers somehow, corrupted by the magic of the children of the forest. One of them did not become a white walker at first though, presumably Brandon Stark. In honor of his 12 friends, he names himself the 13th lord commander of the wall in their honor. Brandon built the Wall, Winterfell, and Dragonstone using the magic of the children. AA/Brandon Stark kills his wife in order to make Lightbringer. The 12 white walkers resurrect his wife as a white walker, which convinces AA to join the white walkers and become the nights king. My tinfoil hat theory: It's starting to look like Ygritte will be resurrected as a white walker to tempt Jon the same way Brandon Stark was tempted. Jon did bury her just north of the wall.
Let's say the Ice Dragon does exist.... What if Bran is meant to control the Ice Dragon and not the fire dragons? Seeing how an Ice Dragon can kill fire dragons easy, the only chance to stop the Ice Dragon would be Bran.
Not that there was any doubt after the HBO leak last year, but D&D called the leader of the Others, the Night's King in the "Inside the Episode."
I watched the YouTube videos on the Dornish Master Plan. Interesting but seemed like a stretch to me personally.
This has probably been posted here before and isn't a new idea but I wonder what the future role of the Dayne ancestral sword - Dawn will be? It's almost painfully clear or super coincidental that was the first lightbringer. What ends the Long Night? The last hero's flaming sword, DAWN. Somewhat related the complete absence of the house of the Kingsguard LC (Hightower) during Roberts rebellion and the little info we've heard about what's left of house Dayne is a little suprising. Feel like we get some info on the Hightowers during Sams time in Oldtown and the potential attack of the city by Euron Greyjoy. Feel like we find out through Dany or fAegon some details about R+L=J through house Dayne that Jon never gets to know. Because he knows nothing.
Considering the fact the show chose to include a scene not in the books between Sansa in Littlefinger regarding Rhaegar and Lyanna at her tomb in the crypts at Winterfell (which have been constantly referred back to in the novels), I fully believe Lightbringer is buried with Lyanna in her tomb. Common theory, but the show is adding credence to it, IMO.
You should probably prepare to be upset, the show never even talks about House Dayne unfortunately. I feel like they won't end up playing much of a part in the upcoming seasons, nobody from their house is even a periphery character at the moment. Shit, hardly any of them are still alive. They could introduce Darkstar in this Dorne story line I guess, but it doesn't seem likely. It is a bit late in the game for them to start injecting them into the plot.
A bit late in the game? They have spoken about Rhaegar probably less than a dozen times since the series started. You think it a coincidence Sansa and Littlefinger have a convo regarding the Rhaegar and Lyanna when they are standing above Lyanna's tomb in the show? They could have had that conversation anywhere. There is a reason for the that location, IMO. I mean, showfags haven't been drawn back to it since the first season. Why go back there without a long term plot device?
For some reason I thought this was the show thread, which is why I was saying to OHW that he would be disappointed as I don't think House Dayne will feature/play a part on Game of Thrones. Sorry for the confusion. There is definitely something going on with Lyanna's tomb in the books, and quite possibly in the show as well.