Do you trust Donald Trump as a possible U.S. president? (feat. immortal lizards)

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  1. Yes

    15.8%
  2. No

    84.2%
  1. Nick Rivers

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  2. I'll Give You Asthma

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    Fauxcahontas speaks
     
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  3. TheChatch

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    Plenty of hyperbole in that diatribe. Ol Liz is better than this.
     
  4. wes tegg

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    I had left the election thread by the time it came up, but what led you to Trump support?
     
  5. Jake Barnes

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    I already told you months ago that I haven't voted for Trump and don't believe I will; I'm more likely to look third party or simply not vote at this point. I apologize if you didn't like the substance (or lack thereof) in my posts, but I'm genuinely curious at the vitriol that I see in yours. It appears that you don't really value opinions or ideas that don't coincide with yours, which is fine, but instead of simply ignoring them, refuting them, or trying to work towards a change in opinion you just make personal judgments on people where they don't really need to be, which seems like a rather illiberal premise. You're a very intelligent and well-read person, so I think if you simply relied on the strength of your arguments it would be more fruitful than talking down to people you disagree with.
     
  6. wes tegg

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    Which parts?
     
  7. JohnLocke

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    Is there though?
     
  8. Stagger Lee

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    I have no idea what the % is but highly doubt it's more than a fraction of a percent -- unless you're categorizing individuals who support something like ending affirmative action as "white nationalists," in which case, I agree the % is more substantial.

    Either way, I don't think you have any basis other than rank conjecture to conclude that "it's pretty clear" that I am several magnitudes off in my estimate.
     
  9. J.R. Bob Dobbs

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    There's nothing more annoying than all the fucking dipshits posting about "hurf both sides are equally bad lmao"

    it's especially bad because it's peddling the notion that hillary is anywhere near as bad as trump.

    here's a quick overview of trump's policies


    -forcing american soldiers to commit torture in violation of every international law of the last 50 years
    -building a 100 billion dollar wall on the mexican border
    -implementing tarrifs that would put hawley-smoot to shame while bringing international trade to a grinding halt and fucking over american consumers
    -ramping up america's already insanely bloated defense budget
    -abandoning 100 years of international foreign policy for the sake of being "unpredictable" ( a policy that was already tried to dismal effects by richard nixon)
    -alienating the entire international community for no reason, including burning bridges with longtime allies
    -harshly curtailing abortion rights
    -a tax plan that would render the u.s insolvent, a tax plan that by sheer coincidence reduces taxes on the ultra wealthy by huge amounts
    -violating the 1st amendment and changing libel laws so he can sue people who criticize him (aka the first move of every fascist in the course of human history)
    -wanting to violate not just the constitution, but the very spirit of america by advocating a total ban on muslims.


    but yeah, i understand that "hillary is a bitch" so it's ok to vote for an actual fascist
     
  10. tradercane

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    She really isn't.
     
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  11. Tobias

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    wait when did the trump word filter get fixed
     
  12. Jake Barnes

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    Was wondering if anybody else had noticed it.
     
  13. Artoo

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    Yeah, can any of the die hard Hillary haters produce a list of reasons that show she's equally as bad as Trump?
     
  14. Stagger Lee

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    In typing that post, I realized I was contradicting a prior post. I tried to soften the post by saying "I have trouble believing" and wouldn't be surprised." Your point is well-taken. I guess the bottom line is I don't trust Trump, but I do trust him slightly more than Hillary, which is like saying I trust a pissed off rattlesnake more than a rabid hyena.
     
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  15. Stagger Lee

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    No she isn't.
     
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  16. wes tegg

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    Do you even email/Clinton Foundation/body count/whitewater/watergate/Benghazi, bro?
     
  17. LuPoor

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    There was no vitriol. Just callin' 'em like I see 'em. Surely an impartial observer like yourself can appreciate that.
     
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  18. wes tegg

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    :respek: that's fair.
     
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  19. TheChatch

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    Well, even as the presumptive presidential nominee, he doesn't lead the GOP, for one.

    For another, to say he has more support amongst the KKK than he does the republican base is fairly laughable.
     
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  20. eHo

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    Yeah, Trump is the human embodiment of sodium pentothal.

    Sorry, couldn't help myself. ha.
     
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  21. Aaron Hernandez

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    This thread is an example of why I cringe when most people talk about politics. It's a thread about the insane phenomenon of Donald trump and a third of the posts are just people lobbying against democratic candidates doing their duty as a loyal republican to sway the vote.
     
  22. J.R. Bob Dobbs

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    why do you trust him more when hillary consistently tells the truth and trump consistently, and outrageously, lies.

    he lies about everything. constantly. He's consistently proven himself unworthy of trust.

    he lied to avoid the vietnam draft
    he had his dad bribe his way into wharton
    he built a real estate empire on the basis of debt financing and defrauding investors
    he's a serial adulterer
    he ran a scam "university" that defrauded students out of millions
    he lies constantly about his networth and sues anyone who calls him out (it's hilarious that the "muh free speech" types on tmb have never called out this putz for using legal force to suppress free speech)
    he has lied so much on the campaign trail that politifact had to make a special award just to put it in perspective.

    meanwhile, hillary has been cleared of wrongdoing by every congressional investigation thrown at her and is the second highest rated politician on politifact, behind only bernie.


    basically, you're a fucking schmuck if you trust trump over hillary.
     
  23. I'll Give You Asthma

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    I dunno if I can get into detail on this without writing a novella. But simply put, I've been an anti-establishment guy for a while now. I was tentatively in Bernie's camp until a few months back when his momentum faded. It got me thinking about him identifying as a socialist yet not really accurately describing what democratic socialism is, and the fact that while he may not be an establishment candidate, his plans would likely empower the establishment further. That opened the door for me seek other candidates, and the only other candidate threatening the establishment is Trump. I guess that's the simplest way I can put it.
     
  24. Fran Tarkenton

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    No he didnt. He was baited with audio of Rafael Cruz saying God wanted the listeners to vote for Ted Cruz.
     
  25. Artoo

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    Trusting Trump. :roll:
     
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  26. OopsPowSurprise

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    Bill's wife
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    Ghastly record on war
    Has her hands in Wall Street
    Attacked Christian values
    Zero women have been president
    I hate her
     
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  28. wes tegg

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    So, as long as a candidate is "anti-establishment" you don't care about policy stances?
     
  29. I'll Give You Asthma

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    Not true at all, that was more the initial attraction. I agree with him on a lot of issues, but we still have our disagreements.
     
  30. wes tegg

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    I guess I'm just not seeing where that Bernie/Trump venn diagram meets.
     
  31. OHW

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    I like the idea that any "anti-establishment" candidate is going to change a thing. Does anyone actually think the US could pass an amendment right now, let alone fundamentally change the political system? The US's system is probably the most stable on the planet.

    But voting for Donald Trump is clearly the answer, guys.
     
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  32. POWESHOW

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    Daniel Ocean because everything she has ever had a hand in has turned to complete shit. People died, people lost billions of dollars, secrets were accessible, she won't release transcripts. She's slimy and she'll do anything to get elected. Fucking anything. If she had to play the trump role she'd 100% do it. She's disingenuous. She's a cunt. I don't feel she has a desire to actually help anything in this country improve, rather she wants to further her own agenda. Bitch can't even control her man, how is she going to control a nation of 350million?

    Fuck her, fuck her, fuck her.
     
  33. I'll Give You Asthma

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    Like I said, the anti-establishment appeal. Although admittedly that appeal from Bernie wore off on me the more I thought about it.
     
  34. TheChatch

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    lol this makes it even funnier. I didn't catch that part. Clip I saw made it seem like he was like, "oh and by the way, Teds dad helped LHO shoot Kennedy."
     
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  35. I'll Give You Asthma

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    I didn't ask for you to agree with my opinion. But if shitting on it anyways makes you feel better inside, then shit away.
     
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  36. POWESHOW

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    At least the problems are perpetuated and there is a chance, albeit a slim one for something to change.
     
  37. zeberdee

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    people willing to switch from Bernie to Trump to avoid Hilary really blow my mind.
     
  38. OHW

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    I wasn't making fun of you personally.
    But if you fall into that bucket, well...
     
  39. Fran Tarkenton

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    yea I thought the same too. Then found a more complete Fox and Friends clip.

    The Doocey guy just tees him up. Rafael in his broken english saying God demands the people of Indiana to vote for Ted Cruz. Pretty unfair appeal to the base + Donald is easily irritable.
     
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  40. Daniel Ocean

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    So she is basically Trump with political experience?
     
  41. POWESHOW

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    She's a woman.
     
  42. POWESHOW

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    Which I feel is a detriment.
     
  43. OopsPowSurprise

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    Powe is trolling yall
     
  44. POWESHOW

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    It shouldn't. Some people have different priorities. Anti-establishment is a big one to a lot of people.
     
  45. POWESHOW

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    I will snap my ballot faggot
     
  46. zeberdee

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    it would require a complete disregard for everything else other than the requirements - anti-establishment & male.
     
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  47. OopsPowSurprise

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    Ok

    Don't know why I'm a faggot but sure go ahead