New HBO Series: Westworld

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  1. Babou

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    Not to mention Ford gets Bernard to commit suicide*

    *apparently
     
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  2. Emmy Rossum

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    How does tagging someone ruin the episode?
     
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  3. je ne suis pas ici

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    The 'robert' bernard said there at the end didnt sound like himself
     
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  4. Killy Me Please

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    lol i did nothing wrong and i apologize for nothing. but you can keep crying about someone tagging you and putting a smiley in spoiler tags loololololol
     
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  5. GrizzliesDrew

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    I'm going with a new theory that Dr. Ford is really just a Hannibal Lecter alias.
     
  6. Killy Me Please

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    Because they cannot see the things that will hurt them.
     
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  7. Tiffin

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    Also, what does this mean for Teddy? Teddy = Wyatt? He flashbacked and there was no army, he was a sheriff and he was alone massacring people? And this cult of Wyatt's is trying to get him to remember, but he didn't so they killed him to see if he remembered the next time?
     
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  8. Odin

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    just let me have time to watch the damn episode and i'll come be wrong like i have been doing all season. i don't need someone who i've been having one single argument with in a mystery tv show thread to tag me while the episode is airing. don't be an asshole, not everyone watches lives or avoids tmb until seeing it. you can enjoy being right while still allowing me to enjoy the show.
     
  9. Tiffin

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    You may not have purposefully spoiled anything, but I still have no idea what you're being so smuggy about and it's quite faggy at the moment.
     
  10. bic

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    So episode 8 fucked me up so much I avoided this thread for a week and just caught up now after episode 9. Wanted to chime in on this...

    Someone from another country watched with subtitles on and apparently that bit had subtitles. I don't think it's a spoiler but will do it just in case...

    Peter says to Ford and Bernard before they have him lobotomized that he will have such revenges on them both. What Bernard whispers into Peter's ear as he's being walked into cold storage is apparently "You will have revenges on no one."
     
  11. Larry Sura

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    Also looks like Maeve and company at least take a nice tour of the facility.
     
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  12. Clown Baby

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    Delos is an acrostic for Dolores eh love our situation :warn:
     
  13. Nug

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  14. Killy Me Please

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    Because this episode all but solidifies my arguments earlier in this thread. A thread, that ive basically backed out of because it was ruining the show from my POV. The stupid teasers even started to ruin it for me.

    also i watch every episode about 3 times to catch things so reading Gators posts and backing up my theories from websites took the mystique out of it a bit.
     
  15. UKupNorth

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    So why do we think Dolores killed Arnold?
     
  16. Nug

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    Looks like William = MIB is confirmed.

    Still not really sure what to make of the Church scene.

    How is Maeve going to ensure Hector wakes up while underground as well?

    How did Dolores not die when Logan gutted her?---on that note, I was worried we'd see some brutal rape/gangbang scene and them forcing William to watch. Glad they didn't go that route.

    Another question---so it's a given that MIB is in the present. What in the hell/how in the hell are the Wyatt-cult hosts doing that? Did Ford do it on purpose? I don't think his new narrative was them becoming sentient/finding the maze. A little confused by that, too.

    Wonder what happens to Stubbs.

    Still not entirely sure what to make of Arnold talking to Dolores, which we know (??) was in the beginning. So it was Arnold, before he became Bernard, talking to her and trying to get her to find the maze----but then Bernard (I think) asks her to remember, and reminds her that Dolores kills Arnold. That whole situation has really thrown me for a loop.
     
  17. Nug

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    One more thing---when Bernard was going through his history with Ford, and he was in bed with Theresa, she stopped like a host, and he got out of bed. Was that just part of his memory, and he was almost observing it from a 3rd person's perspective?
     
  18. Nizz

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    That

    FUCKING

    Episode
     
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  19. Nizz

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    I love Michelle MacLaren
     
  20. Larry Sura

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    That was weird, but he did the same thing with his "son" too. I think it was him replaying the memory and then looking at it from a 3rd pov like you said.
     
  21. Tiffin

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    Maeve can wake herself up but won't be able to change Hector's programing unless they are in the building. So she'll wake up and have to find him in the building, then work her magic on him and they're in business.

    Yeah, I think that he was just seeing his memories and his cornerstone as a "3rd person" with the awareness that he is just a bot.
     
  22. Nizz

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    GOAT Level
     
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  23. Nizz

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  24. Nug

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    Didn't even think about that. Makes sense.
     
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  25. Nizz

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    Ford looked like he held in some sadness walking away
     
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  26. Larry Sura

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    At least he knows she's down to be choked. That's a win imo.
     
  27. Nug

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    Also, when Dolores was going downstairs to her initial meeting (or the first meetings with Arnold---fuck I don't know when), it looked like a massacre underground, couldn't really tell exactly what was going on, but there were bodies everywhere, and didn't think they were hosts. Is that the meltdown that occurred years ago? Did the hosts already kill a bunch of humans in the past?
     
  28. three stacks

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    if they were humans, they'd be skeletons by that point
     
  29. Tiffin

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    So we see someone (who we are supposed to assume is a young Ford?) walking through calling out for and then arguing with Arnold? They always referred to it as an incident with him. Maybe Arnold lost his mind started killing hosts trying to get them to feel or remember, and finally Dolores came back and remember what he did and killed him? I honestly don't fucking know.
     
  30. Nug

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    Unless it was directly after it happened, which could be entirely possible with how fucked up all the timelines are and how they're presented to us.
     
  31. Fidelio

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    Yes, that was a young, very uptight young ford
     
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  32. Nug

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    Wish they would've shown some of William going psycho on the host/union army.

    I know it helps move the narrative along, so I'm not going to let it ruin the episode, but if they were able to capture Logan, and come close to hurting him (and actually hurt him?), how did William kill the whole fucking army with nobody stopping him?
     
  33. Jeffrey Lebowski

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    The more answers this show provides, the more questions I have.

    Hell of a show with fantastic acting/directing/writing.

    The feels when Bernard pulled that trigger...
     
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  34. Tiger Z

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    Could it be that Ford was so upset with Arnold that he had a hand in Dolores killing Arnold?
     
  35. Biship

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    I'm guessing that Arnold got Delores to remember all the horrible shit she'd been through and she killed him which is probably a consequence he was willing to accept
     
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  36. Biff Bridges

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    Guys like Sepinwall and Greenwald hating on this show pisses me off.
     
  37. GuyOnA_Buffalo

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    I can't get behind you being mad; It's not hard to avoid this site until you watch an episode. Sour grapes IMO.
     
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  38. Odin

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    i haven't even been posting in this thread for the last few episodes
     
  39. Nelson

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    Bernard in that episode

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  40. TLAU

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    This. If that was the official William turning it into the MiB scene then I'm kinda disappointed but I set myself up for that with expectations I guess. I'm assuming that scene is what's making people say MiB=William is confirmed?

    If so then it also means there are a lot of motherfucking Dolores timelines. Or they haven't shown any of the "1982" Dolores while Arnold was alive. IMO

    1- Dolores by herself in blue dress, which I thought was the 1982 version but apparently Arnold was already dead by then so did she make that solo journey between a time when she killed Arnold and William getting to the park? Why did she make the journey solo this time?

    2- Dalorez with William in pants/shirt gets stabbed and really should be dead at that point Teddy died in like 90 seconds and nobody even played "show me the wires" with him

    3- Dolhorhes with in clean pants/shirt with MiB in the church.

    But what the fuck is up with the city swallowed by sand? #2 Dalorez has been there with William and it was still covered by sand with just the steeple showing. Same steeple I thought Dr Ford showed Bernardold in the present talking about a "new narrative"... was that in the past? Place looked completely desolate in that scene and is in a valley with a river when Dalorez/William go there. And then it's not covered by sand when #3 Dolhorhes goes there which is definitely the present bc MiB is there with Hale. Are there just a shit load of buried Arnold churches around this park?

    To be honest I'm not ruling out a #4 Dollarez that we saw in a blue dress in the flashback shooting up the turing town and committing suicide being when she killed Arnold.

    Last 20 minutes of that episode probably needs more than one rewatch to have any idea of what the fuck is going on
     
  41. TLAU

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    Curious how William is gonna "save the park" if he is MiB. In one of the early scenes he asks Logan to "talk to his contacts with the park to help get Dolores out" doesn't sound like he'd be in any position to financially bail the park out.
     
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  42. southlick

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    Serious thread is serious

    Someone bitching about being tagged, with nothing being spoiled :loldog:
     
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  43. DUCKMOUTH

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    Marries rich girl whose family owns Delos. Eventually takes over the company.
     
  44. Biship

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    I think the photo of Logan's sister is the same photo that Delores found in her yard that started triggering all this.
     
  45. Truman

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    Common sense dictates you dont open a TV thread until youre up to date.

    Common sense apparently isnt so common.
     
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  46. GuyOnA_Buffalo

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    The more I see, the more I believe MIB is doing this for true robot love. I hope there's more...
     
  47. Professor Moriarty

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    Yeah that's confirmed, zero doubt and it was her dad that found it.
     
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  48. GuyOnA_Buffalo

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    Hell MIB/William even named Delos after Delores. Didn't even notice that until this morning.
     
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  49. UKupNorth

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    Is it safe to assume that Dolores clothes mean absolutely nothing as far as timelines? Or are they still of relevance regarding the timeline? I couldn't keep up when she kept switching from the dress to the pants outfit. If I remember correctly, when MIB dragged her into the barn, she was in the dress, when he sees her in the church in this last episode, she is in the pants. Any insight in to this would be helpful.

    Also, do we know how long Maeve has been doing the madam job? How long ago did MIB kill her and her daughter? Was Maeve one of the originals like Dolores?

    Need some help.
     
  50. NYGator

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    I think it has something to do with Wyatt taking on Dolores memories from what happened with Arnold. He is in the new narrative based upon the truth.