Libertarian Thread

Is "large bureaucracy" you all's "Islamic terrorism?"

 

Why waste 4 pieces of bread?

 

This is amazing on many levels: the outfits, the host [who died from lung cancer] smoking on the air, the confrontational set up, the chanting, the host talking about the size of Ron Paul's balls, Ron Paul's rip on the fat guy, etc. The whole thing is worth a watch but the last few minutes are probably the best.

 

I'm only 4 minutes in, but what in the holy fuck even is this show? This is like watching TV in the Watchmen universe.

 

Morton Downey show, not sure if that was the name. It essentially the progenitor of the in your face talk show

 

"I wish you would ban cigarettes, I'd put it out in your eye!!!!"

 

Groupthink is a helluva drug

 

I can't even believe Ron Paul went on a show like that.

 

morton downey jr should be tarred and feathered

 

Hey now drugs are bad

 

So now that there's no longer an economic conservative party in the US, what may be the next couple steps for people with that mindset?

 

no longer?

There hasn't been since before WWII

 

Time for your weekly shaming, Libertarians. You were not left enough to stop this, you are an enabler. Now prepare to be showered by platitudes.

 

I wasn't shaming them? Usually there are a lot of good discussions with Nelson and Rabid and co., though they sometimes end on bad tones.

Unless they voted for Trump (they didn't), there's not really an avenue for shaming right now against the libertarians that I'm angling for

 

you read books written by ann coulter

 

Don't even know the name of one of her books and despise the woman,but I'm digging the shaming.

 

Web forums generally aren't a good place to claim safe spaces. If any Lefties or GOPers want to criticize Libertarians (which I'm not really sure Spliff did or tried to), they're more than welcome to

 

To continue our conversation...my point is that things proceed as normal. Nothing has changed for Libertarians, in truth

There may be some things accomplished by this government that Libertarians can laud, and many more than we do not. That's pretty typical of any government in my lifetime. The Libertarian criticism of the GOP has always been that it panders for small government votes, then frequently increases spending and attacks civil liberties. This appears par for the course

 

Nobody said they weren't. I was just subtly reminding them of how counterproductive it is.

 

Spliff was asking a legit question, imo

the taxation-is-theft guys will come in and out occasionally, I suggest you save your vitriol for them

 

My vitriol is a little more on-the-nose

 

i thought you were shadow from your avatar

 

I wouldn't quite label that as vitriol, but noted nonetheless.

 

I would actually consider buying this hat.

 

A person selling blue hats that say "MAKE FASCISTS AFRAID AGAIN" would probably pull in at least $100K in the current environment

 

This is a good business opportunity brb setting up hatsagainsthatesllc.gov

 

Get paid, bruh

 

You're god damn right it is

 

Though, come to think of it, asthma's 'shaming' post is actually a lot more telling about what his priorities are with regard to how someone in his position chooses to side with the current goings-on.

That is, perhaps more of his identity is tied in with the party than his principles. This tends to hint at my usual criticisms of free-market stuff, ie fanboy-ism with a product or group or ideologue, rather than learned, sober evaluation of these things.

It's good to see y'all are taking pains to not fall in to that trap

 

I can't help myself from seeing the exact same situation in Washington, presently, as I'm reading about from Cuba's second crisis period in 1900-1930:

"But the names of the candidates or the parties do not mean very much. The real essence of politics, the interplay of programs and ideas, did not exist. Conservatives changed positions with Liberals and vice versa; the political struggle was limited to differing slogans and the personal appeal of individuals. The real objective was to gain power in order to distribute positions and privileges among followers. Speaking in the Chamber of Representatives: José Antonio González Lanuza, a professor at the University of Havana and an honest man, acutely defined the political mechanism in Cuba: 'Our political parties are merely cooperatives organized for bureaucratic consumption.'"

 

Which party exactly?

 

The Trump one

 

Are you claiming he is establishing a new party, or conflating him with the GOP?

 

Hasn't been a conservative party in a long time and I doubt we see one again, which is a shame because we desperately need one. Conservative seems to relate more with morals than fiscal responsibility.

 

yall did nominate and elect him but I'd try to distance myself too

is this where you insinuate that my wife has had an affair

 

I would love some conservatives. Look after the environment, be wary of wars, cautious and slow.

Ha nah, let's scrap our alliances and trade partnerships and blow it all up woo while we write checks.

 

I don't think I've ever referred to myself as a Republican. At least not willingly.

 

You were spectacularly pro-Trump at one point

 

While acting terrified of countries a half a world away with no air force or navy who couldn't possibly wage any semblance of a war on our soil but they are extremist