The addiction thread: A safe place for questions or advice or really anything

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  1. Mitch Cumstein

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    My sister and her husband had a family of three visiting last January. The family consists of my BIL's only niece, her fiance, and their child. The niece and fiance are 27 and their child is 3.

    In february the fiance died of an overdose leaving the child without a father
    Last week the niece died of an overdose orphaning the child.

    opiates

    There is a huge fight brewing between my BIL and his sister (grandmother to the 3 year old). He and my sister want the child down here to raise her. The grandmother has so many issues between not being able to support herself (nevermind adding the child) and personality disorders. My BIL isn't the most stable person, but my sister is a rockstar of a person who is completely reliable (they've been married for 28 years)
     
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  2. Dutch

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    Sorry, I've seen quitting dip using chantix mentioned in here. Started it in late February after 18 years of use, and did very well until tonight. Had urges after the chantix wore off but holy shit today was intense. Still haven't relapsed but it seems to be getting worse. Just hoping for advice really, got myself almost believing the "well, just once..." crap which I hate.
     
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  3. THE REAL GUBBERJK

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    I quit smoking ciggs bye getting the nico patch at wally world and smoking pot .
    45 years of addicted to nic .
    over.
    now jons little treats are down to 1 with a affordable life ahead .
    must break habitual tendencies .
    after all those years of self abuse - gone .
    thank you lord .

    p.s. when anyone thinks about living comfortable .
    and being happy.
    it matters .
    not only that , but the on going issue of legalization of pot.
    I find myself at age 64 all crushed up .
    considering moving to aurora col just for 1 simple reason .
    peace .
     
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  4. Pelican

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    Haven't read through all of this, but is this thread mostly just for addiction advice or does general medical advice count as well?
     
  5. NoNatty

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    Not sure what you mean, just post it and if it isn't people will tell you.
     
  6. NoNatty

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    Maia Szalavitz writes some really good articles about addiction. If you're looking for longer reads, her books (and non addiction ones with Bruce Perry) are really good.
     
  7. Pelican

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    I'll take it to the random thoughts thread later.
     
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  8. TC

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    I didn't read the article

    But

    Even if the people who were prescribed the painkillers weren't the ones getting addicted (which I'm not sure if I believe)...wouldn't the glut of extra pills out in circulation have something to do with the nationwide epidemic? Many pills sold on the black market are stolen from family members or just given away by people that say go turn these into cash on the street for me
     
  9. Fudd

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    At some of these we balked.
     
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  10. Fidelio

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    That always got the kobewhatgif from me
     
  11. Popovio

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    I know this will pale in comparison to the problems of others, but I've recently come to realize that I probably have an alcohol problem. A week and a half ago, after 10 years of smoking weed at least once every day (usually a lot more) with little to no break, I decided not to re-up. I know weed "withdrawals" usually get scoffed at, but it's been fucking with me. My stomach hurts, I don't feel like eating, I can't sleep, and when I do I'm having really fucked up dreams that leave me legitimately disoriented and anxious when I wake up. The worst out of all of them is basically realizing how much weed has been distracting me from the fact that my life is basically pretty shitty. Things just generally seem to suck more. It's also made me realize how much I've normalized drinking heavily every day of the week. I can't remember the last time I went a day without a drink. Sure, I took breaks from weed if I went on a little vacation, but I would just drink a shitload more to compensate. I run out to the store whenever I'm close to being out. Even if there's three beers in the fridge, doesn't matter, that's not enough for tonight I'm going to the store. I can go through a handle of rum in 3-4 days. If it's beer I'm usually drinking 6-9 a night. A lot of nights, it's a lot of beer and a few mixed drinks. It used to be worse when I would do coke with my friends, I could drink a fucking ocean and stay up until 6 in the morning. I luckily kicked that before it became too much of a habit. My hands noticeably shake. I felt embarrassed the other day holding out a piece of paper for a woman to take from me. I was like Tom Hanks in fucking Saving Private Ryan; I was almost shaking the paper at her in impatience. Anyways, I feel like I've just normalized getting high as shit and drinking a 6 pack and a few rum and cokes a day, and thinking everything was fine. I don't know if it's because I've been feeling depressed and like shit lately, or I'm just starting to realize how much it's been holding me back from getting things I need to get done taken care of, I just know I gotta shake things up.
     
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  12. Popovio

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    I preemptively posted on my first sentence, 'tis complete now.
     
  13. THE REAL GUBBERJK

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    wow nobodys problems are more or less important than anothers ..
    in my eyes a problem is a problem and if you need help there are plenty of good people here that I am shure could put down the war stories and would be willing to help .
    as I depart do it for you , ok ?
    you !
     
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  14. Tony Ray Bans

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    Quitting weed will suck for a week or two. The mental stuff is the worst for sure. Low quality sleep, anxiety, etc. are all VERY common and I definitely went through that when I stopped smoking. Luckily, you'll get through it relatively quickly and normalize.

    On the alcohol, be very careful man. Alcohol withdrawal is one of only 2 withdrawals I know that can actually kill you. If you need to seek help, do it. Also, I know you have probably run into people that are like "OH YOU DIDNT SUCK DICK FOR COKE?! YOU DONT HAVE REAL PROBLEMS!" but fuck people that turn addiction into a dick measuring contest. Everyone fights their own battle and it sucks regardless of the conditions or the substance.

    If it would help, we have a PM discussion group for those of us who are in recovery and we try to provide as much support as we can. JBF76 can we hook the homie Popovio up with an invite if he is interested?

    Bottom line: good for you for deciding to make a positive change. It will only get better from here. Stay strong bruh
     
  15. Redav

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    Go to a doctor and tell him you're problem. They can help you
     
  16. The_411

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    Re: getting off weed

    As someone has dealt with sleep issues for a long time, the best thing that has been working for me is the meltonin emergency pack in water. Shit knocks me out and I feel relaxed in the morning. It should take the edge off the weed withdrawal in terms of sleep.
     
  17. Pharm

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    throw me in the group, and i also echo the being careful with ETOH withdrawls, that can kill you. Withdrawl from weed is real, Its not as studied and the half life makes the withdrawl not as intense but its there for sure
     
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  18. Redav

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    I haven't done weed in forever but I did it a lot for a couple month period in college. It has significant withdrawls but mine only lasted like 2 weeks
     
  19. JBF76

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    Will do sir, as soon as I get home. My pleasure. :heythere:
     
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  20. StephenA

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    I've been taking a quarter Xanax every night to relax for 7 months

    Have had Xanax withdrawals before (horrible)

    Anyone had experience on quitting a quarter a day cold turkey?
     
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  21. Pharm

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    From a medical point of view, I would taper off. other than alcohol benzo withdrawl is one of the deadlist. That dose likely isnt. Also with xanax being one of the shortest acting benzos the withdrawls are the worst. when you say a quarter is a a quater of 2mg or what mg?
     
  22. NoNatty

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    Don't mess with tapering benzos by yourself. Consult a doctor.
     
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  23. JBF76

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    Done, Welcome my man. Popovio. Might I add that anyone else who feels they need a safe place to come and talk and get feedback pm me and i'll add you to our private thread.
     
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  24. StephenA

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    Just .25mg a night
     
  25. DUCKMOUTH

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    Been sober since July 4th. I've started working out, killing it at work, super dad with the kids.

    Never realized how much the booze slowed me down until now. I don't think I'll ever go back
     
  26. Hurley 864

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    It's been 3 months since my last adderall/vyvanse dose after taking it for 2 years. Don't miss it.
     
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  28. TC

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    What was your regular dose? Did you taper?
     
  29. Hurley 864

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    20mg twice a day for Adderall or 70mg of Vyvanse. Somedays I'd take 20mg of Adderall three times a day, occasionally four times a day.

    Didn't taper, just ripped up my prescriptions and said fuck it. Looking back, I definitely should have tapered. I struggled to get out of bed for 2 or 3 weeks after quitting. It's still tough to find energy but it feels great to be human again.
     
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  30. BTH

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  31. THE REAL GUBBERJK

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    same thing Stephen as asprin .
    nobody thinks about it but pain is a awefull contributor to asprin overdose .
    and in-case u don't know it can bust ur stomach open .
    Xanax makes me fell like I have a over-coat on my toung .
     
  32. THE REAL GUBBERJK

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    get any ticks ?
     
  33. JBF76

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    6 years sober on 8/27/17 Best thing I've ever done in my life.
     
  34. Tony Ray Bans

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    :respek: hell yeah man. Congrats
     
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  35. IHHH

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    I am not sober yet but JBF76 is a guy I admire
     
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  36. JBF76

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    I told you privately and i'll tell you here, i'm always here for you if you need me.
     
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  37. Marbles

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    Add me. I'm in recovery. Had a relapse this spring but went back to rehab and am building back up my sober time.
     
  38. JBF76

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    Will do immediately.
     
  39. Pharm

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    Can add me aswell, ive told somewhat of my story but yeah im at 1 year 5 months on the 31st.
     
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  40. two

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    How is everything going for you Fudd
     
  41. THE REAL GUBBERJK

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    I have not drank alcohol in 8 years .
    since Sharon got cancer from it .
    doing just fine with-out it.
    when Sharon got cancer and I had my strokes it was a perfect time to put down all my self treats .
     
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  42. THE REAL GUBBERJK

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    that includes nicoteen .
    the worst drug of all.
    45 years on that is a long time .
    pot helped me with nicoteen .
    pot is easy to put down .
    nicoteen is not .
     
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  43. THE REAL GUBBERJK

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    listen to me!
    know what makes na and aa so good ?
    you get just what you want .
    a little or a lot or nothing .
    you can be court ordered , fake the steps .
    do just as much as it takes to appeal to what the court said your sentence was .
    and not get one fucking thing out of it .
    and be glad your finished .
    sign your name to the list when it,s passed - done .
    when the sentence is over and you don,t have a probation payment .
    or required to go in to the fucking quack ,it,s over .
    time to get fucked up.
    or ?
    if you do really see that what got you in the revolveing door really needs to be stopped for your sake .
    you can get as much as you like .
    maybe one time out of 100 times you will wake up and realize that.
    hey ! If I do this and not this , I can have that .
    ?
    maybe just maybe .
    it,s time for you to make all the money you can .
    get to retirement .
    and then treat yourself when its all over .
    like sports .
    get high all you want later when it,s your privialage .
    or not .
    ?
    cool huh ?
    your choice .
     
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  44. BTH

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    Congrats bud.
     
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  45. JBF76

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    Just saw this I'll add you immediately.
     
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  46. JBF76

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    Thanks guys, honestly it is pretty humbling hearing from all of you. I talk about it alittle tomorrow on my anniversary in here and the private thread, but to me i'm at the point in my recovery where if I can be a jump start to just one person who looks at a regular guy like me who was able to get it together through changes I knew I had to make then they can too. That is the best way I can describe it. I'm not going to sit here and say i'm not grateful, or happy about it because I most certainly am, but it truly goes beyond that to me. It was a choice of embracing my inevitable demise or making the necessary changes to thrive. In the end it was in my mind life or death. To this day from the day I got sober my life or death view has only strengthened my resolve. There are other factors that I use daily but that's for another time.
     
  47. THE REAL GUBBERJK

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    jbf76 do what you really want ?
    be happy .
    be what you want for you and nobody else .
    not me or him and him.
    you.
    and from were I,m sitting you through your actions so far have .
    made so good friends , huh ?
     
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  48. JBF76

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    ..nm
     
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  49. devine

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    fattus hasn’t been seen since February. Wonder how he’s doing
     
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  50. devine

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    How is everyone doing?
     
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