Yeah if that actually happens next season it is going to be news. It wouldn't be weird for GRRM to write it in the context of these books, but for popular television... I would expect some boycotts if it happens.
I guess they can regenerate their numbers every time they kill somebody. If they have giants, bears, and mammoths (and a dragon) they could do some work. It does seem like some trained soldiers in formation could cut through those wights like they are nothing.
Drogon will keep growing. vICEerion is as big and bad as he's going to get. So, yeah. Cool that the AotD marches with heavy chains, just in case they have to drag something big out of something deep. Who volunteered to go under and place the chains?
Night King is a fucking show off big dragon stationary on the ground nah im gonna snipe the smaller one flying
He's a COD trickshotter for sure. "There's the biggest one that everyone is about to get away on... but I gotta go for this trick shot on the smaller, flying one."
The Wights didn't seem like pushovers in thr small skirmish when they first captured one. Had a couple guys choked before Jon killed the WW...
So what did Jon and Dany say to each other before Dany started backing away? The stream I was watching was a little choppy and I didn't understand why she backed off.
They could make this a whole lot easier on everyone if they'd just denote the passage of time. A simple "I've spent 2 nights on this fuckin rock with you cunts, yadda yadda yadda" from the hound would do the trick.
Something I just read that makes some of the seemingly iffy things in that whole situation make sense is that it was a trap set by the NK to get a dragon. Dude's been around for thousands and thousands of years so he knows what dragons are capable of and assuming he has powers similar to Bran with regards to "seeing everything happening everywhere at all times" he saw dragons were back and wanted one. If that's the case then he'd have the tools needed to retrieve one ready.
Yeah, I posted my own thoughts about that prophecy in the show thread. Most like grasping at straws but here
Five reasons it's not as bad... She can't have kids They didn't grow up together They didn't know they were related They are aunt and nephew Who gives a fuck at this point...winter is here
I said this in the main thread but I just don't see it happening and I argued this before Jon was legitimized last week. blood relative incest is not a good guy trait, I think they'll keep the tension between them until someone spills the beans on Jon Targaryen. I think they may have Dany even push it and Jon will point to Cersei and Joffrey and say that's why they shouldn't and she'll drop it. I think you could run the "song of ice and fire" theme even further with Jon and Dany having a child and you just might in the books but I'll be shocked if it makes TV, it's just too weird/wrong for the good guys to do.
But didn't the Targaryens reproduce with each back in the day to their line pure. Maybe that is the selling point.
That's sort of a common misconception. Only 5 Targaryen Kings out of 17 married a direct relative. 7 kings however were a product of inter-relations (its complicated, I know)
Curious to see if in the books Jon ever gets to the point where he's as big of a badass warrior as he is in the show, or if that's just standard TV tropes- because they've elevated him to basically Arthur Dayne level at this point. In the first Skirmish Jon dices up a WW while guys like Jorah and the Hound are still struggling with Wights.
They did, but Dany can't have kids, So they be relatives sport fucking. Unless Jon has and his scars have awoken her uterus.
Just gonna rattle shit off about the episode -Tormund + the Hound together is amazing. It's like the hound is trying not to like him, but he can't help it. - Benjen. At least he went out like a boss. - LF is obviously trying to play Sansa, but I think Sansa is playing LF back, and I can't tell if Arya is in on it or not. Why else would she be so adamant about sending everyone away? She's going to use this opportunity to deal with him. We've all expected Sansa to out-Littlefinger Littlefinger at some point, and I think this is gonna be it. Sansa basically becomes the queen of thorns reincarnated and the only non-empowered female character left in the show becomes empowered and gives her character some actual growth. -What's Bran's situation? Surely he knows what LF is up to, right?
The whole Jon not getting on the dragon, falling in the water and the show completing the Benjen story was also very poorly done.
As someone said in the other thread, the further we get from the source material the more this becomes summer blockbuster level story lines and writing. You are seeing the Troy and X-Men: Wolverine starting to show thru.
I think it was just one of those show vs. book situations where they had to tie up a loose end with a half inch of string. Benjen's character needs closure and there's 7-8 eps left, so they make Jon sacrifice himself/fight the advancing wights so the others can get the wight onto the dragon and bring it back. Benjen saves Jon and we know his fate. Definitely not a smooth process, but I get it.
viewers don't know this, though. you have to think of stuff they do without importing your knowledge of the books into it.
I am on the fence right now. Tyrion and Dany spent an awful lot of time discussing succession planning. What could that have been foreshadowing to...Dany able to have a baby with Jon? The bending of the knee thing feels like it is being reconsidered by Dany now as well. I am unsure at this point.
The LF theory is interesting. They want us to think that he is playing Sansa and Arya. Perhaps they figured it out on their own or better yet Bran let them in on it? I have been struggling to understand why Sansa is sending Brienne away given her conversation with LF. Perhaps that is part of the trick.
I'm the books didn't Dany start her period again at the end of book 5? With that Martell dying in Meereen the sun set in the east
As soon as all 3 dragons took off from Dragonstone I was like viserion about to become an ice dragon. What was Jon doing btw? If he hops on Drogon right away then there's a chance everyone gets away clean? Was that supposed to be blood rage or something? So much for that Interp of the Dragon having 3 heads. Tyrion the targ lives no more.
He was showing off for Dany. "Hey, check these moves out, babe. Oh... sorry. I may have gotten one of your 'children' killed. Poopsies."
Yeah, Jon saying nope and fighting more was a plot device to grow Dany's admiration for him, show his true desire to kill the Army above the wall, and his hope to save as many lives as possible. Basically he is a good guy badass, and that showed it.
As a Ramsay fan it was nice to hear someone admit it. Ramsay had that battle won until deus ex Baelish arrived.
BTW, I really hope that is not the last we get of Benjen, although I don't know how we would get more. They didnt actually show him die, I guess. I just want to understand what the fuck he was doing all these years and why.