HoF [REDACTED] v2.0: FUCK...We suck again!

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  1. allothersnsused

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    Yeah I don't really expect us to "contend" next year, but was wondering whether we were looking at more of a fringe playoff team or a team that was still squarely in rebuild mode.
     
  2. Sterling A

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    Then again the twins lost 102 games last year and are hea ding to the playoffs so who knows. Our bullpen is horrific though, #1 area that needs to be addressed
     
  3. Keef

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    #1 thing for next year is let our young starters take their lumps (figure out the ones who can cut it) and be ready to rock in 2019
     
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  4. Clown Baby

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    It's important to remember that Greg Maddux and Tom Glavine always threw mid-90s heat
     
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  5. Tobias

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    i'm expecting 130-140 wins next year
     
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    And Matt Kemp to be the NL MVP
     
  7. Sterling A

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    Ozzie Albies!

    Eno Sarris: I cannot contain my enthusiasm. Dude is single handedly keeping me from quitting dynasty leagues.

    Eno Sarris: Dude could walk 10%, strike out 14%, ISO .175, and steal 30 bases next year.


    Atlanta Braves Playoff ETA?

    Eno Sarris: 2019. All of a sudden they’re going to have a really exciting bat core with a little more on the way. Just need some of these pitchers to figure it out.


    I’m starting to think Gohara is going to be really, really good.

    Eno Sarris:
    He flashes plus plus plus for sure. Overall his changeup is still pretty meh. But if he could add two inches of drop to it, it would be average, four inches and it’s plus. Maybe if he just adds two inches but actually is consistent with it…



    Will teams start shying away from rebuilding around young pitching? Two recent examples I can think of off the top of my head are the 2010-13 Braves and the 2014-15 Mets. Both had success but everyone got injured and it imploded. Will the focus go more to the Yanks/Cubs mold of stocking young hitters and plugging in pitching as you go along?

    Eno Sarris: I think pitching injuries just make it hard to open a window and count on players to be at least decent in a certain timeframe.
     
  8. Sterling A

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    Phillies demoted their manager and he agreed to be a special asst to the GM.

    Why can't we do something similar with snit?
     
  9. Keef

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  10. Hurley 864

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    Kelsey's rack looks nice tonight
     
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  11. Louis Holth

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    So does Gohara's
     
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  12. Vandy

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    Fuck you Kemp
     
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  13. SC

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    MIAMI -- Brian Snitker has drawn support from his players and some of the coaches expected to remain part of the Braves' coaching staff next season. But for the second straight year, Snitker will enter the offseason having to wait to learn whether he will remain Atlanta's manager.

    "I'm basically where I was last year mentally," Snitker said. "Whatever the organization deems to be the best for this organization, I'm good with it. Like I've always said, if I keep doing this job, it's not going to define my career. I'm proud of what I've accomplished over the past 42 years."


    After concluding the season with Sunday's 8-5 win over the Marlins at Marlins Park, Snitker expressed his appreciation to the players, many of whom have come to appreciate the leadership he has provided since gaining his first chance to be a Major League manager last year.

    "I think [the players] want everybody back," Braves catcher Kurt Suzuki said. "I know I can speak for a lot of the guys, especially in regard to Snit. He has done everything he can with the hand he was dealt. I think he's done a fantastic job. I've played for a few managers now. He's definitely a good one. I think a lot of players would benefit from the whole coaching staff coming back, but it's out of our control."

    Snitker's status as one of the most respected and influential figures in Braves history was cemented long before he replaced Fredi Gonzalez as Atlanta's manager midway through the 2016 season and then had the interim tag removed in October of last year.

    Braves CEO and chairman Terry McGuirk has publicly praised the dedication and loyalty Snitker has shown while filling various roles with the organization over the past 42 seasons. McGuirk still appears to be one of Snitker's biggest supporters, but the team may wait at least another week to decide whether to make a managerial change.

    After winning 20 of their final 30 games last year, the Braves chose to keep Snitker instead of hiring Bud Black or Ron Washington to be their manager. At the time, Snitker seemed to be following the same path as former Phillies skipper Pete Mackanin, who spent two full seasons as Philadelphia's manager after gaining the role on an interim basis in 2015.

    Unfortunately for Snitker, he was reminded of the volatility of the role this week when four months after being given an extension, Mackanin learned he would not be brought back to manage the Phillies next year.

    As the Braves progress through a rebuild, it is not fair to judge Snitker based solely on the team's record or success. But like last year's strong finish aided his cause, the fact the team entered Sunday with a six-game losing streak seemingly evaporated some of the optimism that Snitker had felt over the past week.

    Snitker was encouraged by what he heard during a meeting with team officials on Sept. 23. But the fact that a decision has not been made creates reason to believe the club is hoping a better option emerges.

    If the Braves opt to make a change, the favorite for the job would be Washington,
    who agreed to become the team's third-base coach after not being named the manager last year.

    While Washington is set to return next year in some capacity, the Braves are expected to make at least one coaching staff change. Bench coach Terry Pendleton and first-base coach Eddie Perez -- the two longest-tenured members of the staff -- could be affected by these changes.

    Accounting for this year's struggles, the Braves could also opt to change their pitching coach, a role Chuck Hernandez was given after Roger McDowell was dismissed last year.
     
  14. SC

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    Rosenthal this morning:

    Snitker told me on Sept. 21 that he would love to remain manager “for a while.” He met with Coppolella and Hart two days later, and, by all accounts, the meeting was positive. One source, however, said that Snitker is exhausted from the second-guessing of his decisions by Hart and Coppolella, and that the executives likewise are ready to move on.

    If they keep Snitker, the Braves almost certainly will replace some of his coaches, most likely bench coach Terry Pendleton and first base coach Eddie Perez, sources say. But if Hart and Coppolella take those steps, they might simply reassign Snitker as well, and in the indelicate description of one source, “rip the whole Band-Aid off.” Third base coach Ron Washington, who led the Texas Rangers to back-to-back World Series appearances in 2011 and ‘12 during his eight-year tenure, would be the logical successor.
     
  15. Gin Buckets

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    Anyone have the Buster Olney Coppy interview from this past week?
     
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    BREAKING: #Braves GM John Coppolella expected to resign today, sources tell The Athletic.
     
  17. Rammer Jammer

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    Don’t think that interview matters now
     
  18. Upton^2

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    Are you kidding me
     
  19. Sterling A

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  20. Rammer Jammer

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    Special assistant to the GM Gordon Blakeley also involved in issues #Braves are facing, sources tell The Athletic.
     
  21. Louis Holth

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  22. Rammer Jammer

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    Resignation of Coppolella believed to stem in part from issues with #Braves’ talent acquisition in Latin America.
     
  23. Louis Holth

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    Wonder if we're staring at any loss of international money or draft picks?
     
  24. Arkadin

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    Don't care we acuna matata now it means no worries
     
  25. jplaYa

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    Wow this sucks. Loved Coppy
     
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  26. Tobias

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  27. SC

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    Don’t have much international money to lose. Would imagine draft picks on the table in some form or fashion.
     
  28. Where Eagles Dare

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    Scherholtz is going to destroy the braves
     
  29. Louis Holth

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    Losing the 8th pick would be brutal.
     
  30. Upton^2

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    Passan says MLB has been investigating him recently
     
  31. Louis Holth

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    Not really sure how we're arriving at this conclusion based on this news?
     
  32. Rammer Jammer

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  33. Where Eagles Dare

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    Posted before seeing news
     
  34. Louis Holth

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    Sucks for coppy if it's serious, because that likely means his days in baseball are done. His success story takes a horrible turn.
     
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  35. Louis Holth

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    Where hot takes dare
     
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  36. Rammer Jammer

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    The Braves were WIDELY rumored to have had an agreement with Kevin Maitan long before his 16th birthday. I wonder if that's related.
     
  37. allothersnsused

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    Fuck. Coppy was so legit.

    Edit: Now, re-reading this. Not sure legit is the right word. But he was great.
     
  38. Upton^2

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    If he was cheating bad enough to get fired amid an open investigation, not sure we should feel too bad for him
     
  39. Tobias

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    was coppy pro snit or anti-snit

    trying to spin zone this and having one less snit advocate could be a silver lining
     
  40. Upton^2

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    This is standard across pretty much all of these intl signings though. Would think it would have to be something worse, right?
     
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  41. jplaYa

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    Yeah true. Yikes.
     
  42. Where Eagles Dare

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    Don't all teams do this?
     
  43. Louis Holth

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    I appreciate him anyway.
     
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  44. Louis Holth

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    I'd say he was squarely anti snit
     
  45. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    If they got us for this it's bullshit.... Everyone does this
     
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  46. Rammer Jammer

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    I would think so yes
     
  47. Where Eagles Dare

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    Yeah, teams doubt have massive facilities in those countries out of the good of their hearts
     
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  49. allothersnsused

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    Predictions:

    - Braves lose #8 this year OR the Kevin Maitan deal is voided
    - Braves retain Snit to have "continuity"
    - Braves hire someone in win-now mode as GM.
    - Immediately trade young assets for overpriced, washed-up vets to undo years of planning
    - Two more wild card game losses in 18 and 19 then we suck ass in 2020 and have to blow the team up again.

    Tell me I'm wrong.
     
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