It's like way way way way way less. But for some reason people are way more ok with a human error than a robot error (or choice between two bad situations).
Yep 100% Arizona already banned autonomous vehicles Betting there has been another fatality on Arizona roads since that accident due to human error I never said any of this would make sense. But knew all of the TSLA worshippers and autonomous vehicles fanboys would be waiting a long time before any of that was mainstream
Autonomous vehicles seem like legal weed to me. It's inevitable. But what sort of political threats are there that will slow that down? I don't think anyone with any objectivity thinks completely autonomous vehicles will have smooth sailing when 1 accident is newsworthy.
Inevitable in what sort of time frame? People in this thread said it would be within 10 years that there would be a shit ton of them on the road.
I still think 10 years isn't unreasonable at all whether they're Tesla or not. Major car manufacturers are seriously dedicating resources to electric and autonomous vehicles. When that happens you know absent changing political headwinds, it's happening sooner than later. 10 years seems fair to have it not be an oddity anymore. I don't know what sort of overall percentage that might be. Probably far below 50% of all vehicles but I could see at least 50% of all new vehicles having some level of autonomous option within 10 years.
Well let's say 2017 isn't is thread started the 10 year clock So far in year two we have one state who has banned them after just one catastrophic collision and tesla is the most shorted stock on the exchange Just because the technology exists doesn't mean it will be widely adopted
You do realize that a lot can change in 8 years, right? I'm not saying you're wrong or you're right, but to insinuate that since one state has done something in Year 2 means that it can't happen is absolutely asinine.
One state (Arizona ffs) banning them means nothing. Tesla being the most shorted stock on the exchange means nothing. And I just said 10 years in 2018, for our conversation's sake. Tesla isn't the only company doing this. Google cars have traveled millions of miles with (last I checked but it may be 1 or 2) no accidents. It will be widely adopted because major car manufacturers will start including it as a standard option on a lot of their vehicles. Just like electric being widely adopted because major car manufacturers are investing heavily in the technology.
Arizona pulls over brown people because they're brown. I don't think they're sitting on the winds of change for where anything is headed.
Also, I would point out that Arizona also doesn't follow daylight savings time but yet the rest of the country does (excluding Hawaii and the territories). So yeah, one state (or even two states) making a decision doesn't always impact the rest of the country.
Now, if California or New York banned them, then yeah, that would be a huge blow to autonomous technology.
Self driving cars are going to happen it's just likely not going to be TSLA or UBER to be the bigger players in the field.
It isn't a stretch to say by 2027 a much higher percentage of new cars will have self driving capabilities. There are a lot of mainstream cars that park themselves already. People just aren't aware of it.
The overreaction of a fucking homeless person stumbling out in the road in the pitch dark is hilarious. Not to mention there's been a few dozen people killed by human drivers since that story came out. People are so fucking dumb.
Tesla not being able to hit production numbers is probably having just as much impact on its stock today...
i didn't say it wasn't dumb. just think the demand is way overstated for self-driving cars. i think all of the major auto companies are bullshitting about offering a ton of self-driving cars. they're just saying that for investor relations so their stock price doesn't get shit on.
So is Tesla getting shorted because of their self-driving technology or are major auto manufacturers blowing smoke to pump up their stocks? It can't be both. Is autonomous technology a positive or a negative for investors? Because you used Tesla getting shorted as a reason why autonomous technology wasn't going to happen in the near future in your earlier post.
cant wait for people to see the insurance rate difference for autonomous cars, then legislation that promotes it as a public health reason with likely even more financial incentives
If you want to look into another reason why autonomous driving is going to happen just look at the trucking industry. Do you know how much money trucking companies could save with that technology? If there's billions to be made off of it, that shit is going to happen.
tsla is getting shorted for a fuckload of reasons. they have never delivered a car on time; they have never even sniffed turning a profit; they miss on every single number every single quarter. the only reason the stock is where it is is becuase of a short squeeze. major auto manufacturers are putting a tiny amount of resources town autonomous vehicles so dickheads on wall street can't put out some bullshit report that they're falling behind in technology that no one uses.
As someone who worked for a large P&C insurer that partnered with Google and the large auto manufacturers researching autonomous vehicles, I can guarantee you it is not any tiny amount of resources that is being devoted to autonomous driving. It will absolutely be the future and a lot sooner than the general public realizes.
think it'll be closer to cars replacing horse drawn carriages, elevators, etc basically every tech advance that changes a basic part of your daily life but the upsides wildly outweigh the downsides even if it makes people uncomfortable at first it'll quickly become a standard part of life that people will then look back nostalgically on driving cars like we do for visiting blockbuster
i like to think of myself as a safety lawyer. making the world safer one injury case at a time. i also have a metric fuckton of insurance
Cars that have lane keeping and adaptive cruise right now are very expensive. It will be a while before those things are in most new cars (entry and mid level models). My wife and I both drive cars in the 35-40k range (2015 and 2017) and neither have those features. It will definitely happen eventually but it will be a very long time before the majority of cars on the road are autonomous. Consider that the last new carbureted vehicle sold in this country was in 1991 and there are still thousands of carbureted vehicles on the road. This is a huge huge industry/market and it will not change quickly.
so someone else who deals with this shit every day agrees with the other person who deals with this every day. i'm shocked.
Touche. My point is the media made it sound like it was Lance Armstrong training for the Tour de France riding down a well-lit highway got smashed for no reason when in reality it was someone probably in an altered state mindlessly walking out into traffic in the pitch dark. Doesn't stop idiot lawmakers from overreacting making it seem like they give two shits about actual safety when stifling this technology will ironically lead to more deaths. Another feather in the hats of Arizona politicians.
Can you show us the stats for how much of their resources are going towards autonomous vehicles? It has to be out there with how ardently you speak of it.
Is $46 billion in 2015 a tiny amount? So full of shit. PWC’s 2016 Connected Car Study, its fourth annual report on the sector, says the top five original equipment manufacturers spent $46 billion in research and development in 2015