What do you guys think happened to him? Tobias sent me the wiki today and it’s really interesting https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Ben_McDaniel I’ll give quick cliffs but you should really read the full story Guy is in debt to the IRS, rich parents let him go to Florida on a sabbatical, he takes up scuba diving in caves, he is seen going down into the caves one night, never seen again. Car is in parking lot that night and remains there. He’s never seen again. The best scuba divers in the world search for him and are convinced there’s no way he’s in the cave. Parents think he is
the only thing i am sure of is that anyone that thinks he’s in the cave needs to be monitored and treated as the societal threat they are
i am team he either faked his own death and started over or he killed himself at some other area and the gators got him or something
I am going with the fake his own death angle because it's going to make a hell of an interesting documentary if it is ever confirmed.
There’s an episode of Criminal that talks about how easy it is to fake your death abroad. In the Caribbean, you can get a fake death certificate that says a car crash killed you for like $5,000.
Did it go over how easy it is to get a whole new identity? Like acquiring all the legal documents and everything?
Good lord. I wouldn't get 3ft before I said fuck this and turn around because Id be scared shitless I wouldn't remember my way out.
I don't even like submerging my head just below the surface of the water, much less doing shit like that.
I enjoy how half the Wikipedia involves posting on a diving message board. Maybe one day tmb will be cited in @dump’s disappearance.
Not analogous because it appears they knew exactly where to look for him, but I've read many stories about evidence coming out of the water years later in Florida. Here is a full body 17 years later https://www.tallahassee.com/story/n...remains-found-northern-leon-county/972549001/ One issue is that it appears there have been no mix of stories from that night. The time-line seems to be fairly set. Q: Were his extra tanks found outside of the water or his actual tanks found somewhere else?
They put up a gate to keep inexperienced people from going into that section because so many died, but this inexperienced person diving in that section must’ve died some other way!
Wish he would have disappeared from Rutgers sideline in 2015 as OC of a 4-8 campaign. Oh wait.... that's Ben McDaniels
the entire cave has been mapped, there was no physical evidence of someone in the cave and the world’s best divers say there is no way he is there how on earth could you think he’s in the cave
I think the argument is that he could only have gotten so far because he wasn't skilled and they've checked that and further. Unless the people checking killed him.
A buddy of mines brother disappeared in Ohio while working over a week ago. His family has been posting all sorts of stuff the past week asking for people to share posts seeking information. No credit card activity or anything
I'm going to guess that he was diving in the cave, you see, all alone at night, when all of the sudden this huge creature, this giant crustacean from the Paleolithic Era, comes out of the water and asked him for about tree-fitty.
they have numerous divers who’ve checked every possible crack in that cave that even an experienced diver could reach and there isn’t a hint of him. he might have died in the cave but if he did someone moved him out
how large of an area are we talking about? What are the #'s? We have a bunch of cave truthers on this board, so prepare. real strong feelings about cave deaths from some of our own here. War Grundle is a big cave guy
i’m not sure. i know that in the course of the search they completed the mapping of the cave so they have a full picture no evidence of decomp in the cave and no physical markings that would designate someone slipping through a crack
1. That’s not really true. The woman who made the movie said there’s no evidence he is not in there. 2. Someone saw him go into the cave, and no one has seen him since. 3. It’s extremely dangerous, he didn’t have the proper certification, he was known for being overconfident in his abilities, and he’d mapped far deeper into the cavern than people thought. It makes infinitely more sense that he went even deeper, panicked, and ended up in a deep crevice/fissure and has been stuck there. It’s still not fully mapped.
I would normally say well let's slow down in trusting this info because this info is coming from the cops, but in this case it sounds like non-LEO's did a lot of work.
If the last few days on tmb have taught me anything, it’s that most don’t have a firm grasp/appreciation of caves. They aren’t like the goonies.
I'm on the side that thinks an arrogant, rich, white, parent-mooching, tax-evading 30 year old man-baby is a ripe candidate to fake his own death. And his parents sound like the WOAT
He’s also a ripe candidate to die diving in a cave where so many (13!) people died that it necessitated putting up a gate. The dude had been breaking through said gate so much that the people that ran it knew and just let him in despite his not having the proper certification.
Leaving his cell phone, $700 in his wallet and a dog at home with no food leads me to believe he died in there.