I think three stacks put it best. We had already done deals with them. We’re offering a little more money (not a ton more mind you) and we’re willing to do more business
Everton sold Funes Mori for 9m€ and paid 30m€ for Mina. That seems like good business. I’d trade 3 1/3 Funes Moris for 1 Mina
People were ripping the shit out of United when they were talking about signing him instead of Alderweirald
Not that I saw and I’ve been following the Mina story since at least July 17 as my texts with SugarShaun showed me today
I mean Toby is better and United can certainly afford to buy him. I wouldn’t view that as the same as Everton signing Mina Edit: My bad, just read the post you quoted. Carry on.
Moral of the story, always buy young English players because some dumb ass team will overpay you for them later
I'm curious what the reason for doing a loan with obligation to buy? I imagine Southampton is going to be paying his wages, and also don't think Southampton is in any FFP trouble. Don't get why you wouldn't just make it official now
Transfers are done on payment plans so maybe they just don't have the cash flow this year due to past transfers. This way they defer payments for a year.
I'm sure that's the why, just seems weird to want to wait 12 months to pay 20million when you can get it off your books tomorrow if you wanted.
Who got 100+ million in TV money a few months ago and still have that van Dijk money sitting there. It’s not like they’re broke...
Next summer, what with inflation, $20mil will be worth like $75. If you'll give me something now for me paying you money in the future, I am going to probably come out the better.
Won't even get you a decent keeper that Van Dick money. Also, that 20 mil is like 10% of their net worth. It matters, they don't have a magical Sheikh, Russian mobster or US based discount super center funding the club.
Southampton has no problem spending on players in the 15-20 range. They bought 3 players for 15+ last year and two this year, including breaking their transfer record twice. And like I said, I get that a lot of transfers are set up in payments, I’m just confused on what true benefit there is to delay a purchase they have to make.
Well yeah, they could leverage themselves out and spend 100 on a player. That's not how Soto operate. It's the same principle as running a business and they are not a large business. 20 on hand makes a huge difference in club like that.
I understand what you’re getting at, but 15-20m on a player isn’t crazy anymore(u less you’re Mike Ashley). Southampton has shown that the last two summers alone. Lemina, Hoedt, and Carillo(club record 20mil) were all similar buys last year, and this year Vestergaard(new club record) and Elyounassi were all 15+
Mina was the better defender over Davison. And he was way better overall in the World Cup. Twelve Football is a great advance metric twitter follow and they has Mina as the best player for Columbia in the World Cup based on his metric score
amortized value... some teams are maxed out on the books based on recent success. So teams can buy a good player by loaning him (they would then only be on the hook for making enough profit to cover his wages) with option or obligation to buy. It buys them a “free” year of the player on the books. If that team hasn’t a successful season and turns a bigger profit it can then cover the wage/fee the next season. If they aren’t as successful they then have the next market to offload players to again balance the books. Its a way to work around FFP without outright cheating like a team like PSG is famous for doing.
Yea. I guess I just thought of it as a move for teams with FFP struggles rather than just to ease the books, or a smaller club needing a season to build up the money to buy.
That's a nicer way to say they lost money. Not that they need it or will be hurting, just saying, spin.
Wow Fulham you can’t just buy your way into this league. Wow Everton you can’t just buy your way into Champions League. Wow United you can’t just buy out Mourinho’s contract.
But really, if you watched the games, Davinson kicked ass, picture perfect last ditch tackles all over the place. Incredible job. Are those metrics focused on overall performance (including goals) or just defensive performance?
Or you’re just watching and seeing what you want to see. A spurs player playing really well, it doesn’t matter what that other guy is doing but he’s probably just doing okay.