Official Hurricane Season Thread (Swings and Roundabouts))

Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by NittanyKnight, Jun 28, 2011.

  1. Arkadin

    Arkadin inefficiently efficent and unclearly clear
    Donor

    God these type of posts are even worse than the "I'm too tough to evacuate" shit
     
  2. Fran Tarkenton

    Fran Tarkenton Hilton Honors VIP
    Donor
    Wake Forest Demon DeaconsGeorgia Bulldogs

    heavy rains already here

    Tornado warning near West End too
     
  3. Arkadin

    Arkadin inefficiently efficent and unclearly clear
    Donor

    Watching the weather channel and they were basically saying the debri indicators are showing a tornado is/was there
     
  4. lomcevak

    lomcevak The suck zone
    Donor TMB OG
    Notre Dame Fighting IrishDetroit LionsDetroit Red WingsDetroit Tigers

    A few minutes ago, definite tornado near Atlanta with more lofted debris

    rs_kffc_wdtr1_1539211342.png
     
    xec, Sam Elliott, One Two and 5 others like this.
  5. Joystick Izzy

    Joystick Izzy Well-Known Member
    Donor
    Georgia BulldogsAtlanta BravesTennessee TitansNashville Predators

    You’re right. I deleted it.
     
    AHebrewToo, dump, kslim and 1 other person like this.
  6. milquetoast

    milquetoast Firm Security
    Donor
    Florida GatorsNew York MetsTampa Bay BuccaneersNew York Islanders

    Ivan in ‘04?
     
    prerecordedlive likes this.
  7. Prospector

    Prospector I am not a new member
    Donor
    Utah UtesArkansas Razorbacks

    Any of you guys ever get the smoked mullet at Posey's?. Was a dive bar in St. Marks)
     
    oldberg, fsugrad99, nolecpa and 4 others like this.
  8. bigred77

    bigred77 Well-Known Member
    Donor
    Texas Tech Red RaidersTexas RangersSan Antonio SpursDallas CowboysKansas City ChiefsAustin FCTexas Tech Red Raiders alt

    "Was"?
     
    Rainbow Brite likes this.
  9. Talking Head

    Talking Head The Bag Man
    Donor
    Auburn TigersAtlanta BravesPittsburgh SteelersTiger Woods

    I just heard schooners in pcb got destroyed. Is that bullshit?
     
  10. Prospector

    Prospector I am not a new member
    Donor
    Utah UtesArkansas Razorbacks

    I've been gone from there for 25 years
     
  11. DelapThrows

    DelapThrows Comforter, Philosopher, and Lifelong Mate
    Donor
    Florida State SeminolesAtlanta BravesDallas MavericksStoke City

    Been closed for a while. They have a restaurant in Panacea now. Had one in Crawfordville for a while too, but I think it closed.
     
  12. Beachy Toast

    Beachy Toast He wants you too, Malachi.
    Donor
    Chicago White SoxChicago BearsChicago BlackhawksKansas State WildcatsMontreal Impact

  13. 941Gator

    941Gator TMB's resident beach bum
    Staff Donor
    Florida Gators

    How’d they fair?
     
  14. Soup

    Soup Legend in the making
    Donor TMB OG
    Nebraska CornhuskersTexas RangersDallas CowboysDallas StarsDallas Mavericks altBarAndGrill

    Palm trees amaze me. The way they withstand the winds fascinate me.
     
    Juan, BWC, Wallcoq and 10 others like this.
  15. Rainbow Brite

    Rainbow Brite The Original UGA Mailman
    Donor
    Georgia BulldogsAtlanta BravesAtlanta HawksAtlanta FalconsColorado AvalanceRomaFormula 1

    Poseys steamroom is pretty good. Nothing beats the Hot Mess dip from that seafood company just outside town. Smoked salmon, mullet, and cobia.
     
  16. Matt Foley

    Matt Foley RIP EARL
    Donor
    Georgia Tech Yellow JacketsAuburn TigersCarolina PanthersWofford Terriers

    Must have stepped on a live power line.
     
  17. oknole

    oknole MC OG
    Donor TMB OG
    Florida State SeminolesTexas RangersOklahoma City ThunderTampa Bay Buccaneers

    Grew up going to places like Cape San Blas, Mexico Beach, SGI, and Panama City Beach. Sucks to see places of my childhood/adolescence get wrecked.
     
    Hootchmane, xec, dump and 7 others like this.
  18. Boom TittyMilk

    Boom TittyMilk User Formerly known as Big R
    Donor TMB OG
    Auburn TigersAtlanta BravesAtlanta HawksAtlanta United

    C5B69856-B818-4EBC-B76F-7E11FD5199FE.png Damn Michael even got the bull at Angelos
     
  19. oknole

    oknole MC OG
    Donor TMB OG
    Florida State SeminolesTexas RangersOklahoma City ThunderTampa Bay Buccaneers

    Spent 3 days at Mexico Beach this year with my kids. Was nostalgic as could be. Already had plans with my cousins for this summer.
     
    dump, One Two, bigred77 and 1 other person like this.
  20. One Two

    One Two Hot Dog Vibes
    Donor
    Auburn TigersAtlanta Braves

    I've looked at that chart and wondered that myself. Anyone got a good link to info on it?
     
  21. RockHardJawn39

    RockHardJawn39 #FranklinOUT
    Donor
    Penn State Nittany LionsSan Francisco GiantsPhiladelphia 76'ersPhiladelphia FlyersLiverpoolWrexham AFC

    About to read this
    https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/09/irma-most-intense-hurricane-florida-keys-1935-history/
    The True Story of the Most Intense Hurricane You've Never Heard Of
    How one mistake led to a harrowing race to save hundreds of men trapped in the Florida Keys.
    Y WILLIE DRYE
    PUBLISHED SEPTEMBER 8, 2017



    Fred Ghent and Ray Sheldon were honest men who made a mistake. But when they underestimated an approaching hurricane, at least 250 luckless World War I vets died, caught in the path of the most intense hurricane that has ever struck the United States.

    It hit the Florida Keys on September 2, 1935.

    [​IMG]


    SOURCES: NOAA;

    NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER

    It was late summer, in the depths of the Great Depression. In the once-prosperous city of Key West, residents were trying to survive on an average monthly income of $7—about $125 in 2017 dollars. The city had declared bankruptcy.

    The Federal Emergency Relief Administration came up with two options: move Key West’s 12,000 residents to Tampa, or clear the garbage from the streets, fix up the quaint but dilapidated buildings, and repackage Key West as a tourist attraction.

    To build much-needed bridges and roads for the venture, the government came up with a plan. They’d send jobless World War I veterans to the Keys to build the road. They’d pay them $30 a month—about $540 in 2017 dollars—plus free room and board.

    That’s where Fred Ghent and Ray Sheldon entered the picture. They oversaw three cheaply constructed beachfront work camps that housed the veterans.

    Ghent was a compassionate man, an Alabama native and engineer. But the veterans he supervised were a surly, rambunctious lot. Many suffered from what we today recognize as post-traumatic stress disorder. In 1935, it was known as “shell shock.”

    In 1932, thousands of the same vets had been chased out of Washington, D.C., by tanks and bayonets after appealing to President Herbert Hoover for early payment of a bonus they’d been promised for their wartime service. Evicting the vets was a public relations fiasco for Hoover, and probably helped cost him the 1932 election.

    For his successor Franklin Roosevelt, sending the veterans to the remote Keys seemed the perfect solution—it gave them work and got them far from public scrutiny.

    TODAY’SPOPULAR STORIES


    ANIMALS
    Why some fish are really bad at swimming



    CULTURE & EXPLORATION
    Native American imagery is all around us, while the people are often forgotten



    ADVENTURE
    Photos of Free Solo Climber Alex Honnold’s most epic routes

    The natives living in the island village of Islamorada about 80 miles south of Miami didn’t know what to make of the troubled men. They tried to remember their Methodist teachings of tolerance and compassion, but sometimes it was a stretch—especially when the vets turned to boozing to drown their misery.

    “I often thought that it was almost a crime to allow so much drinking in the camps,” said John Russell, then a Postmaster and a community leader in Islamorada, where the work program was headquartered in a hotel. “When they got paid, they would drink until it was all gone. Then they would wait until their allowances came again to get more.”

    And when they drank, they brawled. “We always had boom days then, suturing their wounds,” said Dr. Lassiter Alexander, a physician at a small hospital that cared for the vets.

    Russell and other natives did what they could for the men. But the sea-savvy islanders worried about the vets’ flimsy shacks on the beach, only a foot or two above sea level. Hurricanes were a fact of life in the Keys, and the natives knew that even a minimal hurricane would swamp the camps with seawater and shred the shacks.

    Fred Ghent knew hurricanes were a threat, but in the early summer of 1935, he thought he’d solved that problem. He’d discussed sending a special Florida East Coast Railway train from Miami to evacuate the vets should a storm come their way.

    But he’d managed to misunderstand the communications. He thought a train would be kept in constant readiness for use at a moment’s notice. Railway officials tried to tell him they’d need several hours to assemble a train and get it to the Keys, and if he wanted a train constantly parked on a sidetrack in Miami, he’d have to pay for that.

    Ghent somehow missed that detail.

    When Ray Sheldon, a Massachusetts native, was hired as the new supervisor of the three work camps, Ghent conveyed his mistaken impression to Sheldon that he’d taken care of the hurricane threat. Sheldon didn’t ask questions.



    Rescue workers search for victims' bodies in the wreckage of one of the beachfront work camps that housed World War I veterans working on a federal highway construction project in the

    … Read MorePHOTOGRPAH BY BETTMANN, GETTY IMAGES

    In late August 1935, a patch of windy thunderstorms rolled off the west coast of Africa and rumbled across the Atlantic Ocean. These storms—known as tropical waves—are the seeds from which hurricanes can form.

    Most tropical waves don’t develop into hurricanes. But sometimes conditions are exactly right. The storms pick up a counterclockwise circulation imparted by Earth’s rotation, draw energy from warm, late summer seawater, and evolve into a tropical storm.

    Meteorologists didn’t have a lot to work with to help them track these storms in 1935. Radar was in its infancy, and weather satellites were the stuff of science fiction.

    Still, the U.S. Weather Bureau—predecessor of the Weather Service—had launched a national advertising campaign in July 1935 to assure the nation that Atlantic hurricanes would no longer avoid detection.

    “Uncle Sam has perfected his hurricane service for this area, perfected it to the extent of putting a decided crimp in their stealthy approach,” the advertising copy read.

    It was a foolish statement.

    By Labor Day weekend, the developing storm had slipped into the Bahamas. In the Weather Bureau’s advisories, it was little more than a windy rainstorm. On Saturday, Sheldon and his new wife went to Key West for a brief postponed honeymoon.

    But one of their subordinates, Sam Cutler, was deeply worried. He talked by phone with Ghent, who was back in his Jacksonville office, urging him to summon the train and evacuate the vets.

    Others who’d worked with Cutler, a former safety engineer, regarded him as conscientious and highly competent. But many among the work camps’ administrators regarded him as a very nervous fellow who imagined things.

    Ghent wasn’t ready to evacuate. Sheldon would make the decision when he returned from his honeymoon, he said.

    Early Sunday morning, Sheldon’s phone rang in his Key West hotel room. It was a local Weather Bureau meteorologist. Things could get rough Monday. He might want to get back to the camps.

    Sheldon called a meeting of administrators late Sunday afternoon. A few started to offer suggestions, but Sheldon made it clear he was in charge and would make the decisions.

    He still wasn’t read to evacuate. He knew the drunken, surly vets would be nearly impossible to handle aboard the train. He wanted to wait until the last possible moment.

    Sheldon monitored the Weather Bureau advisories and charted the storm’s progress by pushing thumbtacks into a map on his office wall. The Weather Bureau said the storm likely would strike Havana on Labor Day. Sheldon couldn’t know, however, that the Weather Bureau was off by many miles. And the hurricane was stoking itself into a frightful monster.

    Cuban officials weren’t so sure about the storm’s location, and decided to get a fix on it. On Monday afternoon, a daredevil American pilot named Len Povey, who’d been hired by Cuban political strongman Fulgencio Batista to train military pilots, climbed into the open cockpit of a small biplane fighter. He was going to fly out over the Straits of Florida and find the hurricane.

    Around mid-afternoon, he spotted it.

    “It appeared to be a cone-shaped body of clouds, inverted, rising to an altitude of 12,000 feet,” he later told the Associated Press.


    The winds of the 1935 Labor Day Hurricane may have reached 200 miles per hour at times — more than enough to slice the roof and second story off the Hotel Matecumbe in the village

    … Read MorePHOTOGRAPH BY BETTMANN, GETTY IMAGES

    “The waves in the sea below broke against each other like [they were] striking a seawall,” Povey said.

    He also discovered that the storm was many miles north of the Weather Bureau’s plot, and was heading for the Florida Keys.

    Around 2 p.m. on Monday, Labor Day, Fred Ghent called to order the evacuation train. It was then that he discovered that it would take workers hours to assemble the train in Miami.

    At 4:25 p.m., engineer J.J. Haycraft opened the throttle of his steam locomotive, and the evacuation train slowly moved out of the yard. In the Keys, about 400 vets waited while their flimsy camps started coming to pieces.

    “It was already blowing hard, and we piled out as fast as we could,” said Lloyd Fichett, from Terra Alta, West Virginia. “As we came out the door the corners of the mess hall had started breaking off, and it began blowing harder each minute. By the time we got to the railroad tracks, it hit us with all its force. The canteen blew down and wood started flying in all directions. It was terrible.”

    As the train left the mainland peninsula and entered the islands, waves were breaking across the tracks, and Haycraft had to slow the locomotive. A few miles from Islamorada, the train was snatched to a jarring stop when it snagged a steel cable that had blown across the tracks. Eighty precious minutes were wasted untangling it.


    In Islamorada, hotel owner Ed Butters and his family were riding out the storm in his automobile. Butters was fascinated and horrified as he watched the needle of his barometer fall, an indication that the center of the storm was moving closer. When the weather is calm, a barometer will read just under 30.00 at sea level. Butters held his barometer aloft, shone his flashlight and called for the others’ attention. The needle had fallen to an unbelievable reading of 26.00. Butters rolled down his car window and hurled the instrument into the storm. He couldn’t stand to watch it any longer.

    Around 8:15 p.m., the rescue train rolled into Islamorada and stopped to pick up Ray Sheldon and other administrators. Sheldon climbed aboard the locomotive. Moments later, the full fury of the storm’s winds—likely 200 mph—and massive storm surge slammed into the island. A newspaper reporter aboard the train later recalled that the passenger cars were “swirled about like straws.” Only the 160-ton locomotive remained upright on the tracks.


    All but the engine of this Florida East Coast Emergency Relief train was blown from the tracks by the hurricane, just below Snake Creek, near Islamorada in the South Florida Keys. The train had been en route to the war veterans camp below Matecumbe. As work of reconstruction begins, bodies of victims, where other means of burial are impossible, are being cremated to prevent outbreak of pestilence.PHOTOGRAPH BY BETTMANN, GETTY IMAGES

    Veterans were dying as the work camps disintegrated. They were speared by flying lumber, brained by coconuts flying nearly 200 miles per hour, or simply blown off the islands to who knows where. When it was over, more than half of the 400 or so men in the camps were dead. Counting the natives, at least 408 were killed in the storm—almost half the people living between Key West and Miami.

    Since Ed Butters threw away his barometer, his astonishingly low reading could not be verified. But the official reading, confirmed by the U.S. Weather Bureau, wasn’t much higher—26.35 inches, making it the most intense of any U.S. hurricane at landfall to this day.

    When reporters finally got to the shattered work camps, the nation was outraged. Sheldon and Cutler survived the storm, and many blamed Sheldon and Ghent for the vets’ deaths. But a hasty investigation conducted by WPA officials concluded the vets’ deaths were “an act of God.” That didn’t sit well with many ministers, who said God may have caused the storm, but men had left the vets in harm’s way. Yet the verdict stood. The storm, given no name but the Labor Day Hurricane of 1935, began slipping into the mists of history.

    Award-winning author Willie Drye is working on a new edition of his first book, Storm of the Century: The Labor Day Hurricane of 1935. He is represented by the Jeanne Fredericks Literary Agency and by Straight Arrow PR.
     
    cdaysker, RavenNole, dump and 6 others like this.
  22. Boom TittyMilk

    Boom TittyMilk User Formerly known as Big R
    Donor TMB OG
    Auburn TigersAtlanta BravesAtlanta HawksAtlanta United



    Damn middle school i went to did not fare well
     
    Wallcoq, Big Meech and Talking Head like this.
  23. dblplay1212

    dblplay1212 Well-Known Member
    Donor TMB OG
    Alabama Crimson TideNew York YankeesJacksonville Jaguars2pacSneakersFormula 1

    Anyone seen a report from Cape San Blas? Not a lot out there but I have to think what is there got wrecked.

    [​IMG]
     
  24. dblplay1212

    dblplay1212 Well-Known Member
    Donor TMB OG
    Alabama Crimson TideNew York YankeesJacksonville Jaguars2pacSneakersFormula 1

    It sat on the beach so odds are it did. I assume all ofnl those beach bars got leveled from storm surge.
     
  25. 941Gator

    941Gator TMB's resident beach bum
    Staff Donor
    Florida Gators

    dammmn. shows you how well organized, strong, etc it was.

    Tampa area ppl have been bracing for a direct hit for like +30 years from now, so ppl have a false sense of security. I don’t personally know anyone that evacuated for Irma, basically just get 20+ miles from beach, so dblplay1212 is correct relatively speaking.

    How many ppl died in this one?
     
    dblplay1212 likes this.
  26. spagett

    spagett Got ya, spooked ya
    Donor

    I am though
     
  27. Sam Elliott

    Sam Elliott Job title: Assistant Bouncer at the Double Deuce
    Florida State SeminolesChicago BullsGreen Bay PackersTampa Bay LightningManchester United

  28. Keef

    Keef Liked by Pierre Gasly
    Donor
    Georgia BulldogsAtlanta BravesAtlanta UnitedMilanUnited States Men's National Soccer TeamFormula 1

    Yeah some parts are bad but the majority held up much better than expected
     
  29. One Two

    One Two Hot Dog Vibes
    Donor
    Auburn TigersAtlanta Braves

    This has got to be unprecedented last minute organization?

    lomcevak
     
  30. clemsontyger04

    clemsontyger04 Two offensive coordinators are better than one
    Donor TMB OG
    Clemson TigersAtlanta BravesCharlotte HornetsCarolina PanthersCarolina HurricanesChelseaTiger WoodsCollege Football PlayoffNational LeagueGame of ThronesUnited States Men's National Soccer TeamBarAndGrillOlympics

  31. Keef

    Keef Liked by Pierre Gasly
    Donor
    Georgia BulldogsAtlanta BravesAtlanta UnitedMilanUnited States Men's National Soccer TeamFormula 1

    https://twitter.com/ConeHeads8020

    Tons of Cape San Blas photos on their account
     
    Prospector likes this.
  32. Fuck this

    Fuck this Oh Hey
    Donor TMB OG
    Florida State SeminolesAtlanta BravesOrlando MagicTampa Bay BuccaneersTampa Bay LightningOrlando City

  33. Long Ball Larry

    Donor
    Alabama Crimson TideMiami Dolphins

    I just went there for the first time in June. Toucans is totally gone. The place looked like it was bound together with chicken wire and duct tape.
    [​IMG]
     
    Juan, ashy larry, Wallcoq and 6 others like this.
  34. Fuck this

    Fuck this Oh Hey
    Donor TMB OG
    Florida State SeminolesAtlanta BravesOrlando MagicTampa Bay BuccaneersTampa Bay LightningOrlando City

  35. lomcevak

    lomcevak The suck zone
    Donor TMB OG
    Notre Dame Fighting IrishDetroit LionsDetroit Red WingsDetroit Tigers

    This is why storm surge will fuck shit up

     
    BWC, HotMic, Jax Teller and 8 others like this.
  36. lomcevak

    lomcevak The suck zone
    Donor TMB OG
    Notre Dame Fighting IrishDetroit LionsDetroit Red WingsDetroit Tigers

    That radar animation is a bit misleading. You'll notice there is no data on the SW portion of the storm. Michael was beyond radar range. Only when it got within range did it show up.

    In terms of how quickly it strengthened, it was definitely uncommon, but not rare. I'm not as well versed in tropical as severe though...
     
    BWC, dump, One Two and 1 other person like this.
  37. Coach Prison Mike

    Coach Prison Mike >>—;;—;—>
    Donor

    We pretty much got lucky as hell here in Tallahassee. Gunna be a day or two of clean up/waiting for power but doesn’t seem like anything worse than that.

    But still bummed so many of the places along the coast that I love suffered so much. Planning on traveling to the beach even more frequently in 2019 and spending ALOT of money there.
     
  38. lomcevak

    lomcevak The suck zone
    Donor TMB OG
    Notre Dame Fighting IrishDetroit LionsDetroit Red WingsDetroit Tigers

  39. mtsucalico85

    mtsucalico85 Well-Known Member
    Donor
    Miami HurricanesMinnesota Golden GophersMinnesota TimberwolvesMinnesota VikingsMinnesota WildUnited States Men's National Soccer TeamMinnesota Twins

    Was a perfect setup in the Gulf for rapid strengthening. Above average temperatures across the Gulf, and essentially no shear. Moving at slow enough pace where it didn't shear itself apart, but not slow enough where it has an influence on lowering sea surface temperatures.

    I'm more surprised at how quickly it was able to reach hurricane status down by the Yucatan. There was quite a bit of shear working against it down there, and it didn't impact Michael at all. I tend to think that played the largest role in Michael overachieving in terms of strength. The thought was that it would remain a tropical storm until it pulled away from the Yucatan, and would then grow into a Cat 1 or 2 hurricane as it strengthened over the Gulf. But it began as a Cat 1 hurricane before that even began.
     
    #16489 mtsucalico85, Oct 10, 2018
    Last edited: Oct 10, 2018
  40. Talking Head

    Talking Head The Bag Man
    Donor
    Auburn TigersAtlanta BravesPittsburgh SteelersTiger Woods

    We’re pretty far away from whatever is left of the eye and the wind is still blowing hard as hell.

    Looks like Columbia sc is about to get pounded.
     
    ashy larry likes this.
  41. Talking Head

    Talking Head The Bag Man
    Donor
    Auburn TigersAtlanta BravesPittsburgh SteelersTiger Woods

  42. AIOLICOCK

    AIOLICOCK https://www.antifa.org/
    Donor TMB OG
    South Carolina GamecocksAtlanta BravesCharlotte HornetsCarolina PanthersCharlotte FC

    Just woke up to an email from my boss saying our company-wide meeting was cancelled today due to the weather, am I wrong for not being real worried about this? :idk:
     
  43. Sam Elliott

    Sam Elliott Job title: Assistant Bouncer at the Double Deuce
    Florida State SeminolesChicago BullsGreen Bay PackersTampa Bay LightningManchester United

  44. Big Meech

    Big Meech I like turtles
    Donor
    Clemson TigersJacksonville Jaguars

    I’m pretty certain that is the old Edward Teach’s oyster house just east of the bridge on the bayside. Those waves are coming all the way across the island.
     
    One Two likes this.
  45. DelapThrows

    DelapThrows Comforter, Philosopher, and Lifelong Mate
    Donor
    Florida State SeminolesAtlanta BravesDallas MavericksStoke City

    Anything higher than 8 feet would’ve cleared the island. Reports were that it hit 11-13.
     
  46. Pharoh

    Pharoh king tuttchdown
    South Carolina GamecocksAtlanta BravesLos Angeles LakersTennessee Titans

    Work still has us coming in at 9 so can’t be too bad.

    Just some rain and a little wind so far.
     
    dump and Talking Head like this.
  47. Big Meech

    Big Meech I like turtles
    Donor
    Clemson TigersJacksonville Jaguars

    Why wouldn’t you? It’s a bad thunderstorm at this point.
     
    dump likes this.
  48. Rammer Jammer

    Rammer Jammer Fan Of: Bama, Braves, Packers, MSU Baseball
    Donor
    Alabama Crimson TideMississippi State BulldogsGreen Bay Packers

    NOOOOOOOO
     
    pockets likes this.
  49. Tony Perkis

    Tony Perkis Living My Best Life
    Donor
    Clemson TigersChicago CubsCharlotte HornetsCarolina Panthers

    I’m kind of scared driving to work right now. Some hellacious rain
     
    dump likes this.
  50. Cabs

    Cabs eatin' fried okra with Oprah
    Donor

    No rain here but it was pretty freaky driving to work this morning and feeling/seeing the wind push cars all over the road
     
    dump and Talking Head like this.