The Distance Running Thread

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  1. George Costanza

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    Half in Atlanta went well. Set new PR at 1:37 and my goal was 1:40 so definitely happy about it.

    Feeling a bit sore but heading back to Colorado for a 17 mile trail run in two weeks with 4,400 ft gain. That will be pleasant...

    Happy turkey day, fellow runners
     
  2. George Costanza

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    This is good intel. My ASICS have a lot of miles on them and I’m due for a new pair
     
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  3. kinghill

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    18:56 TROT

    6:06 pace

    :bananallama:
     
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  4. rv12

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    Y’all moved fast today, nice work!
     
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  5. Fidelio

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    5k with 9 yr old daughter. She beat my ass. I wore a vest and hit 8:32 pace
     
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  6. Daniel Ocean

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    Hold my beer. Did my annual “turkey trot” 4.5 in 42 had to bring the thread average to a respectable time not showing off but not falling behind.
     
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  7. Daniel Ocean

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    FWIW they were the dynaflyte 2 which are last year’s model.
     
  8. kinghill

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    That sucks man. Heal up and PR the next one!
     
  9. kinghill

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    November 2018 - Topped 200 miles in a month for first time ever. At 204 with 3 days to go. Should hit 221. Feeling some fatigue. :rockin:
     
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  10. Fecta23

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    Fuck yeah man. 200 plus is big time
     
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  11. TableKnight

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    UGH. just went to the Ortho because I'm not really getting better. Hip Flexor Tendentious. I'm out at least another 4 weeks and I'm already going crazy :taz:

    At least it's not more serious, but FUCK this sucks.

    Time to hit the gym and skip leg days!
     
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  12. kinghill

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    1 mile race tonight and temps have cooled to the low low low 60's :awesomeface:

    Can I do under 5:30 and not hurt myself................
     
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    5:33. I'll blame the headwind.

    Will probably have to actually do some speed work to get down closer to 5. Maybe next year.:idk:
     
  14. tigr2ndbase

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    I think I’m going to try for the spartan trifecta next year. Looking for camel pack recommendations. Preferably one that’s water proof since I’ll be going under water. Thanks.
     
  15. George Costanza

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    - 17 mile trail run with 4400 ft vert upcoming on Saturday morning
    - 6 hour trail ultra in Colorado Springs in Feb
    - Zion trail 50k in Apr
    - 12 hour trail ultra in Golden in May

    Going to be an interesting next six months. From a guy that’s never run more than a 1/2 marathon before
     
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  16. Lorne Malvo

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    4:34 marathon. Was 70 degrees in Memphis and I had been training in 30-50 degree weather for two months, so I definitely wasn't prepared for that type of heat + sun. Things went wrong:

    - I have a new phone and the Fitbit measurements for my mile was off from the start. Finished a mile a good 15-20 seconds before I actually passed the first mile marker and it got worse from there. At mile 7 I paused my Fitbit until I passed the mile marker. Prob ran .4 to get there. Did this again later in the race at 17. Paused it and still had over half a mile to go, I'm guessing. That did a number on me mentally early on and it was hard to overcome at times.
    - Mile 17 went to shit right away. Tried to jump something and got cramps in both legs. Ended up walking the beginning of every mile after that and drinking two cups of water. When I finished I would finally run again.
    - Saw my mom at mile 26 and I think I got so amped up that it messed up my legs because I ended up having the worst cramps of the race there. Was probably too excited/amped up. Walked a little before I ran to finish.

    It was tough. Toughest thing physically I've ever done. Mentally it was a grind. But I finished. Was able to stretch out and make it back to see my dad finish about an hour after me. Was one of the coolest/most emotional moments of my life. Was his 11th full and his fourth or fifth since beating cancer a couple years ago. Was bawling like a baby as he told me how proud he was of me.

    Signed up for Chicago next year. Gonna try to figure out some things to do to not have cramps. But I'm happy as hell I finished my first.
     
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  17. PeterGriffin

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    First race ever on Sunday. Half. Don't know any etiquette or best practices. The pacers are going at 1:50 pace and 2:00 pace, but my training target 1/2 pace is 9:00 which is 1:57. Do I stick with the fast guys and then as I lag behind eventually, just make sure to keep the 2:00 people well behind me? Do pacers stop at aid stations for water ever? I'm curious how it will go down. I don't usually eat anything for breakfast before any run. I don't bring water with me on runs unless they're over 8 miles. Should I be hydrating extra this week leading up? Should I eat a big meal the night before? So many questions, any advice would be appreciated.
     
  18. Daniel Ocean

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    You finished that’s a big deal don’t sell yourself short. Be proud of that running 26.2 miles is not easy. Try to do something physical today/tomorrow walk or something it will be worse if you don’t. Again congrats. I hope to run LA in 2020 hitting a huge milestone I hope to celebrate by running a marathon.
     
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  19. Daniel Ocean

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    Don’t change anything from your training long runs. NOTHING. I usually make sure to wake up early enough that I drink an ensure, eat a banana and take a shit. I always and I mean always worry I am going to shit myself so I make sure to shit. My first marathon u saw a dude (who looked in great running shape) collapse and shit himself.

    I never join a pace group so IDK if they stop for water I can’t imagine they don’t. 13 miles is a long distance to not hydrate. If you’re dead set on being a pace group do the faster one you might surprise yourself.
     
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  20. DollarBillHokie

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    I would run the first mile with the 2:00 pace group and then run at your own pace for the remainder. That will make sure you don’t overshoot at the beginning because of adrenaline. Running with the pacer at 7 minutes faster than your goal sounds like a decent way to blow up your first half.

    My first half I had a hard time letting people pass me and I didn’t eat enough. I ended up blowing up the last 2 miles and it was awful.
     
  21. Daniel Ocean

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    PeterGriffin this is better than what I wrote. I started thinking about it and thought I should edit my post. You really don’t want to burn yourself out too fast.
     
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  22. PeterGriffin

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    Yeah I think that's fair. I really just want to crack 2 hours so I can even stick with the 2 hour group and then beat them the last mile and I beat my mark haha. Thanks for the advice, both of you!
     
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  23. Cousin Eddie

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    As far as aid stations go, no one really stop, people just slow down to grab water or gatorade from a volunteer. So pace groups wont stop but if you slow down to grab a drink you can easily catch back up. I would start with the slower group and then push up as you feel comfortable. Don't change anything as far as eating and drinking goes. I always eat a bunch of pasta the night before but do whatever works for you.
     
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  24. George Costanza

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    Definitely agree with doing nothing different from your usual routine for longer runs. Race day is the last day you want to experiment. Honestly just make sure you're hydrated the night before. I've "carbed up" and also not done that the nights before and haven't noticed much of a difference.

    Personally, I'm a person that wakes up and runs without eating anything. Just works best for me and keeps my stomach in order. I've run a handful of 1/2 marathons and I never carried water with me. If I ever needed anything I would just quickly stop at one aid station.

    Try and keep your pace under control out of the gates. I hate the start of these races. I don't like being around a bunch of people so my natural instinct is to gun it and try and create some space for myself. I've definitely spent too much energy out of the gates and it hurt me a little down the stretch. I get a ton of extra adrenaline in race situations so that usually carries me for a few miles somewhere along the way. It's just something you can't simulate while training. Maybe it's just competitive nature.
     
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  25. kinghill

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    Awesome. Congrats on the finish and great experience!

    I signed up for Chicago as well.
     
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  26. George Costanza

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    What a race this morning. 25 degree temps to start. Thankfully the trails were in good shape. Light snow that was packed or just exposed dirt.

    17 miles, 4400 ft vert. Timed myself at 3:34. Had a blast but damn it was challenging. Cramped up bad at the finish and in the final mile or so but powered through. Entire left leg locked up once I crossed the finish. Props to the folks that were heading back out for another loop to do 34 miles and 8800 ft vert.

    Next up - six hour ultra in CO Springs. Think that one might actually end up being easier because the six hour just runs two loops over and over with only 650-700 ft of gain. Think I should be able to maintain a solid pace for that. If I dial in my hydration better, I would have felt ok today to do some more today. So that’ll be what I experiment with until the next one
     
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  27. sam shakusky

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    Finally got back into running after years away. I was a good high school XC runner but after graduating just played ultimate and basketball to stay in shape. Been running about 30-35 miles a week since Labor Day, back down to averaging around 7:45-8 minute miles when running ‘casually.’ I still haven’t “opened it up” to see if I could come anywhere near my high school times (I was around an 18 minute 5k guy and never raced distances longer than that).

    Now that I’m older I think I could go out and win a bunch of local 5-10k races for my age bracket, but I’m worried if I get into racing it’ll sort of take the fun out of just going out and running around...I’m somewhat competitive. Thoughts?

    Also, anybody have a link for good XC shorts? I have a few pair of nikes and still wear my old racing shorts from HS, but need a few more. Can’t stand running in anything with more than a 3.5-4” inseam. TIA
     
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  28. Gunners

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    I'm into a bunch of things but competition is why I do things, mostly competing with myself to be better every day though. Getting better is what drives me.
     
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  29. Daniel Ocean

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    As someone so eloquently put it in here, I run/workout because at my age if I didn’t I’d look 7 months pregnant.
     
  30. Gunners

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    That might have been me and very true, I eat/drink about 3500 calories a day and need cardio/lifting.

    Know it's not normal but I don't hate my current life.
     
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  31. Daniel Ocean

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    If was you it was perfect and I was like yup that’s me.
     
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  32. ohbluefan

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    Ran 4 miles today at 35 mins which is pretty good for me. It was about 18 degrees and while I was running I thought I’d much rather run in sub freezing temps than run while it’s hot and humid.
     
  33. kinghill

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    DO IT
     
  34. PeterGriffin

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    1:58:07, 9:01 pace, 420th overall:prawl:
     
  35. Paddy Murphy

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    Congrats. I tell people finishing the one marathon I have run (2010 Marine Corps) was one of the most emotional moments of my life. I had one of those hot cries for a a minute I was so overwhelmed. I think it was pride - I decided to do it on my own, trained on my own and ran it on my own - it was very personal. I died at 18 and was literally having to talk myself into every stride after 20.

    I don’t know that I’ll ever get into distance running as a serious thing but I’d like to do one more to feel that again. I’m glad others feel the same way having completed the accomplishment themselves.
     
  36. Fidelio

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    the older I get, the more running I do
     
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  37. kinghill

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    Chicago Marathon 2019 - I'm in

    So expensive :ohdear:
     
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  38. kinghill

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    3:15 marathon today
    7:27 pace

    Goal A was sub-3:10 but I'm happy with this progress

    Calves are shot

    69th overall nice
     
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  39. DollarBillHokie

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    I ran 6 miles today, the longest I’ve run since my marathon in November. I tried to fartlek earlier in the week and it feels like all my endurance is gone and all of my (very modest) speed.
     
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    congrats man

    your improvement has been awesome
     
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  41. George Costanza

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  42. George Costanza

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    Went for a long run today to begin prep for 6 hour in February. Did 20 miles in just over 3 hours. Consistent pace throughout. Felt pretty good. Initial goal of 30 miles for that ultra seems well within reach. But I’m competitive so I’ll probably try and smoke that goal
     
  43. Daniel Ocean

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    Started the keto thing a week ago. Ran an annual 10k that I run. 15 mins in I felt like I was going to throw up and or pass out. Glad I finished but should have listen to my body knew it was going to be shit.
     
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  44. kinghill

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    Thanks man. Love having this thread.

    Looking at my splits from yesterday's race, it breaks down into these sections (goal pace was 7:12):

    mile01-12 avg pace 7:12 - nice, nice, I'm doing this
    mile13-17 avg pace 7:25 - what is happening
    mile18 avg pace 7:05 - I CAN STILL CATCH UP YEAH
    mile19-20 avg pace 7:25 - nope lol
    mile21-24 avg pace 7:39 - oh well, I'll still finish with a good PR
    mile25-26 avg pace 8:26 - this hurts
    mile26.2 avg pace 7:34 - smiling through the finish line and thinking about the next one

    running history timeline:
    2015: Age 37 get off ass and start running and lose 50 lbs
    2016: 4:08 marathon done
    2017: 3:33 marathon done
    2018: 3:15 marathon done yesterday
    2019: BQ sub-3:10? maybe! :awesomeface:
     
  45. Daniel Ocean

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    Mother fuck this is impressive. All the kudos belong to you. You’re my hero. I’d love to do something like this.
     
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  46. Gunners

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    Santa brought me the Zoom Pegasus Turbo, need to start running more
     
  47. Walt Disney

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    Sameeee
     
  48. Hank Scorpio

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    Was holding out on getting new running shoes until after Christmas hoping Santa would bring me some (or at least a Fit2Run gift card). Alas it looks like I'm coming out of pocket this time around.
     
  49. PeterGriffin

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    Don't know what's up but after a week off post-half, I ran 5 and the outer band mid-sole on my right foot flared so I took a week off. It healed over the week so I ran 5 again yesterday. Same issue. Time to go to the doctor I guess.
     
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  50. rv12

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    Yeah, I’ve had some rough knee issues since November and they only flare when I run. Waiting until January to go see a doctor though.