Detroit Lions: Alexa, play “Last Resort” by Papa Roach

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  1. Vinegar Strokes

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    Eat shit Staffjrd. You fucking pussy
     
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  2. Heesu

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    Classic lions!
     
  3. Vinegar Strokes

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    Stafford is a fucking loser. Eat shit
     
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  4. MG2

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    Dear Lord, Stafford. He's been bad this year.
     
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  5. RalfBully

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    Fire Cooter. Hopefully stafford quits Stanning for that fuck
     
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  6. smeegsgreen

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    Dumb lions fans will blame that Stafford doesn’t have the weapons to help him out
     
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  7. Vinegar Strokes

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    The whole fucking country saw what a terrible cunt Stafford is. He’s Jay Cutler, without the hot wife.
     
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  8. DeToxRox

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    Fire Cooter already
     
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  9. Vinegar Strokes

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    Well you can’t fire the players, so sure fire cooter. Another coordinator fired under Stafford
     
  10. Bankz

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    Was Cooter a hold over from the prior staff
     
  11. DeToxRox

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    Yes
     
  12. Bankz

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    Yeah can’t see him coming back in that case. Good luck on the future hire
     
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  13. beist

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    It was pretty great when he drafted Calvin Johnson.
     
  14. MG2

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    Stafford has sucked this year. That doesn't change the fact that he's been really good in the recent past. Or that Michael David Smith is a giant cunt. Fuck that guy.
     
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  15. Vinegar Strokes

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    What has he done that’s been so great or “good”? I’ll hang up and listen.

    He’s a fucking cunt, that should be traded after the season. Who cares about the cap hit. We are going to suck next year anyways.
     
  16. MG2

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    Pass
     
  17. Vinegar Strokes

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    That’s what I thought. You can’t name anything. He’s a fucking loser that hasn’t won or accomplished anything. Just go back to Christmas Eve last year. Must win game, and he shits the bed.
     
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  18. Vinegar Strokes

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    There’s still too many fan boys out there that continue to suck his dick. It’s fucking pathetic, he’s worse than Jay Cutler.
     
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  19. Heesu

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    You’re obsessed with jay cutler
     
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  20. Vinegar Strokes

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    He’s a great guy.
     
  21. Heesu

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    I think stafford could do a lot more & lift those around him better, but I also don’t put the continued failure of this dogshit organization on him.

    In theory, sure, the lions could find a cheaper option and get similar results. But why would we expect them to suddenly make good decisions?
     
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  22. MG2

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    Stafford has been bad this year. There's no defending some of these performances.

    At the same time, the premise that what he did prior to this year doesn't matter because we didn't win a playoff game is stupid. We went 25-23 the last three years with a historically embarrassing run game and one of the worst defenses in the league. Put an average QB on those teams and there's no way we win 15 games during that stretch.

    Pretending like Stafford is the one who has been holding this organization back (outside of the second half of 2013 when he was horrible) is ridiculous. He's the only thing that kept this org afloat the last 3 years. But some would argue they would rather tank because that's the answer to everything.
     
  23. Vinegar Strokes

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    He beat like 3 or 4 teams with a winning record during that stretch. So 85% of the wins were against teams with below .500 records.

    And save the running game excuse. He had a fucking running game this year, and 3 good WRs, and he’s shit on by the Jets, 49ers, Seahawks.

    Stafford is the definition of average. Stop acting like Joe Flacco or Alex Smith couldn’t win 25 games with the same squad.
     
  24. MG2

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    And we wouldn't have lost to more teams with losing records with a worse QB?

    Alex Smith and Joe Flacco would not have won more games the last 3 years than Stafford, but if you have your way I hope you're right because that's our best case scenario for 2019 and 2020 if we dump Stafford after this year.
     
  25. Vinegar Strokes

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    So what you’re saying is we won’t win any playoff games or division titles the next 2 season? We haven’t won any of those with Stafford in 10 years, or any scrub before him.

    Fine by me
     
  26. MG2

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    Which brings it back to the pointlessness of the conversation. It's not about "what gives the Lions a better chance of winning moving forward?" It's about "I'm sick of this guy who hasn't taken us to a playoff win so I want literally anyone else and tell you it's better." You're not interested in looking at why it hasn't happened. You'd rather just burn it down every few years.
     
  27. Vinegar Strokes

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    Exactly.
     
  28. ~ taylor ~

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    The difference between this year's Stafford and the last few years has been his inability to go on 4th quarter heaters to beat bad teams after his mediocre play in the 2nd and 3rd quarters put the Lions in a hole. Aside from brief stretches, he's always been an inconsistent QB who could get hot. Now he can't get hot and he's just inconsistent. He'll be 31 next year with 11 years under his belt. There is little reason to think his peak is still coming, that he'll ever be consistent, or that he'll get back to '15-'17 level production as he gets older. There certainly isn't a better option for next year or probably '20, but they need to plan to move past him after '20.
     
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  29. RalfBully

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    Ebron just balling out again. Cooter really knows how to utilize talent
     
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  30. Vinegar Strokes

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    Could put the blame on Stafford too. Luck is a way better QB
     
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  31. DeToxRox

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    Assholes

     
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  32. Brocktoon

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    I really want to believe that they are one of the NFL teams that has already reached out to Kingsbury but know better than that
     
  33. Vinegar Strokes

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    Lions fans turning on Stafford. About time

     
  34. DeToxRox

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    We’ve found a way to make one of the three most exciting teams in the league boring.
     
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  35. Vinegar Strokes

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    Patricia needs to be fired
     
  36. Lip

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    What good would that do
     
  37. Vinegar Strokes

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    That’s actually a good point. We’d still suck ass. He’s just a fat slob that looks clueless on sidelines
     
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  38. DeToxRox

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    Today was a good day for team tank.

    The next two weeks will tell the story of our year though, as we get the Cardinals and Bills on the road.

    Lose those games and we are probably sitting pretty for at least a top 6 pick.
     
  39. ~ taylor ~

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    They'll fuck it up and pick in the teens. And draft a linebacker, TE or safety.
     
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  40. Constant

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    Who underperforms through his rookie contract then becomes moderately successful elsewhere.
     
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  41. DeToxRox

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    We currently hold the fifth pick.
     
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    Who do we look at in the 3-5 range if we dont blow it and win some games? One of the DE? Hope a team wants a QB and trade down? Think of taking one of the QB? Doubt we would go QB
     
  43. DeToxRox

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    This is a weak QB class so you just take the best DL available and call it a day.
     
  44. Vinegar Strokes

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    Where you see this? I heard we most likely lose tiebreakers due to SOS
     
  45. DeToxRox

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    I think Birkett RT it
     
  46. RalfBully

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    Is that our glaring need?
     
  47. DeToxRox

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    I think so.

    Our pass rush sacks are misleading. We get a lot of effort sacks but we need a true difference maker on the DL to pair with Harrison.

    I really like Josh Allen from Kentucky. Top 10 might be a stretch for him but he can line up everywhere.

    You put him on a DL with Hand and Harrison and I think you have something.

    I wouldn’t hate a guy like Greedy Williams either, but this staff has made Slay regress, so I am not sure how I feel about them getting their hands on a top ten DB.
     
  48. Lip

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    Are we likely going to keep Snacks?
     
  49. DeToxRox

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    Yeah no way we cut him this offseason