Trumpocalypse: No hanky/lanky

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  1. bro

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    you don't think a billionaire like him has a bunch of out-of-touch underlings telling him to run?

    He is a horrible candidate and won't get anywhere.
     
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  2. afb

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    because they are big time donors

    which is baffling considering their industry is dying
     
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  3. Joe_Pesci

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    There would be some humor in running a billionaire from New York as the way to beat Trump

    Plus imagine the conspiracy theories about a Jewish finance/media dude
     
  4. Prospector

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    from the Baltimore Sun
    by Tricia Bishop

    ‘Twas weeks before Christmas, and all through the nation,

    People were feeling a certain frustration;

    The plea deals were signed, the sentencing begun,

    But Mueller, alas, was STILL not quite done.

    The Dems had high hopes; the House was won!

    They envisioned impeachment, a prez undone.

    But the dominoes fall so slowly, it seems:

    Thirty-three others caught — not the man of their dreams.

    Meanwhile, Grinch Trump lobs bombs with his tweets;

    “Horseface,” he types, and claims many false feats.

    He trashes democracy, truth — newspeople, too,

    And feeds us all lies, a big pile of doo.

    He’s Christian, he says, but won’t say the Creed,

    At 41’s funeral; the words he won’t heed.

    But let’s not forget, five advisers did fall,

    So maybe the big man is next, after all?

    Is that too much to ask from ex-G-man Mueller?

    That his probe grow better and not — we fear — duller?

    More rapid than gunfire his proof will appear,

    And he’ll shout out snitch names for all us to hear!

    “Now Stone! Now Cohen! Manafort, Gates, Flynn!

    I’ve got all I need to tie Trump to Putin!”

    Then the tops of the White House and Kremlin, too,

    Will each cry “wah, wah” and “boo hoo, hoo, hoo, hoo.”

    What a treat that would be to end 2018,

    The likeness of which it’s been years since we’ve seen;

    Not since Dick Nixon, the last of this kind,

    To run the country like such a horse’s behind.

    Mr. Trump ignores science and spurns climate change,

    Yet embraces dictators — he’s really quite strange.

    Immigrants bad! he tells an immigrant nation,

    Then takes off on another golfing vacation.

    But not before crying “America first!”

    To rile up supporters in a way that’s the worst.

    Get angry, get ugly, get mean and low down,

    It’s “us” against “them” he swears — what a clown.

    His eyes, how they shift; his lips, how they purse,

    His presence in Washington, oh what a curse!

    He wasn’t so bad on the television screen,

    Or as a rich playboy wanting just to be seen.

    But as president? Oy, it’s a terrible thing,

    To have him as our leader — the embarrassing sting!

    Women he uses, men he abuses,

    No one is safe from his blundering bruises.

    He’s comedy abroad and tragedy at home,

    And that hair of his, always in need of a comb.

    I laughed when I saw him, ‘til the joke was on me,

    And then thought “perhaps, this country I’ll flee,”

    Or “maybe he’ll become presidential just yet”;

    Haha! That was then, when Trump I didn’t quite get.

    But now I know better; he’s taught us through Twitter;

    And my feelings toward him? Well, quite bigly bitter.

    The U.S. will survive him, that much is true,

    But the scars will be deep — and morale black and blue.

    So we look to Sir Mueller, or the next election;

    One of them — surely? — must make the correction.

    Tricia Bishop is The Sun's deputy editorial page editor. Her column runs every other Friday. Her email is [email protected]; Twitter: @triciabishop.
     
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  5. wes tegg

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    It's closer to 200,000, and like 80k of them are actual coal miners.
     
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  6. DelapThrows

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    That's still fewer people than work at Hardees/Carl's Jr. Kill it.
     
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  7. The Banks

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    Thank you, so .00025 of the US
     
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  8. wes tegg

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    Not defending the coal industry. I'm just explaining why its a bigger deal than just 2k workers. You add in how many are still getting paid by coal companies in the form of pensions, comp, and/or silica/black lung trust fund payments, and you're talking about a good number of people, many of whom reside in swing states and otherwise would vote with organized labor. It's a good strategy for republicans.
     
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  9. wes tegg

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    It is, but it's still responsible for a quarter of the world's energy.
     
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  10. The Banks

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    All things considered it's still a tiny dying industry that has held way more attention/lobbying than it should be relative to other industries.
     
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  11. The Banks

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    How much are we exporting these days?
     
  12. chuckmasterflex

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  13. Jax Teller

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    What's the general TMB left feeling about 41?
     
  14. wes tegg

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    The "dying" part of it is really just relative to its former level of control. You're still talking about ~$50 billion a year in sales of U.S. coal.
     
  15. AIOLICOCK

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    Dying was the most morally defensible act of his public life :twocents:
     
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  17. wes tegg

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    Exports have gone down because China's production has gone up (and Europe's demand has gone down), but it's still a substantial amount. And, to coal producers, of which there are relatively few, it's a big deal to preserve their market -- i.e., increasing domestic use. It's kind of an existential issue for them at this point.
     
  18. Hoss Bonaventure

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    He was a good soldier but a shit politician.
     
  19. Popovio

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    I didn't like him at all, but he was certainly a better man than Trump.
     
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  20. Fidelio

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    lived forever
     
  21. Hoss Bonaventure

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    He was 1000 times the man Trump is. Trump has zero admiral qualities other than being a bigot that bigot’s like. That’s it. Trump is nothing more than that and never will be
     
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  22. Can I Spliff it

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    Gosh trump didnt know something?
     
  23. AptosDuck

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    Some Big Shit happened internationally on his watch - Velvet revolutions, German reunification, CFE and START, and then the Soviet collapse - that he and his people managed pretty well. I'd say his ForPol record is much stronger than his domestic policy record.
     
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  24. bro

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    subsidies are a huge issue when you look at how much fossil fuels receive
    https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment
     
  25. jrmy

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    They aren’t gonna survive without being propped up, it’s the best use of their money
     
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  26. Gaknight

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    Don’t feel sorry for that idiot
     
  27. Joe_Pesci

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    Unless you live in, say, Nicaragua
     
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  28. Hoss Bonaventure

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    Even still he is 1000 times the man Trump could ever hope to be. Trump is by far the worst president we have ever seen but as far as his personal attributes Bush is by far ahead of him.
     
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  29. wes tegg

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  30. The Banks

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    With one coal power plant opening up since 2015 (right here in Fairbanks, Alaska) and none planned or in construction, how much longer does the US coal industry have? These plants last what, 25-30 years typically? We currently export about 1/15 of our production so some of that can still be exported to Europe and Asia. But what's the 50 year forecast for it?

    Just looked it up and looks like employment is down to 50K now.
     
  31. wes tegg

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    Where did you find that number? And employment in what portion of the industry? I don't think there's any way that's right unless its just employment at coal power plants. I know mining jobs are down, but I remember them being at ~100k in 2012.

    And, FWIW, I'm not in favor of coal or anything. I'm just explaining why it matters.
     
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  32. JGator1

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    I'm most familiar with the Gulf War and think Iraq's invasion of Kuwait was inevitable, short of Kuwait and other countries handing over like $10+ billion to Iraq. Could Bush have done more to deter Iraq? It's possible. We definitely did some fucked up stuff to Iraq during the course of the war but without excusing it that's the nature of modern conflicts.
     
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  33. The Banks

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    US Bureau of Labor and Statistics. As of Oct 2018 looks like it was 53K not seasonally adjusted. Coal mining, not coal power plants. Power plant jobs isn't the real issue because most of those employees are easily transitioned to other types of power plants, as has happened a lot in recent years.

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/release/tables?rid=50&eid=5645&snid=5613
     
  34. Joe_Pesci

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    That bar is so low. It's like saying someone on tmb is better than farva and intending it as a compliment
     
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    Good, fuck that dumb piece of shit. That’s heartwarming not heartbreaking
     
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  36. wes tegg

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    Interesting. I had no idea it had dropped that significantly that quickly.
     
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  37. HoosDaMan

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    How much did it cost the taxpayers to bury Bush? They've finally arrived at College Station. They took a train. They just had 12 or 16 jets fly over. This thing is rivaling Aretha Franklin and James Brown's funeral in total time.
     
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  38. The Banks

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    It's a state funeral. We've had 32 in the history of our country and only 5 this century, I don't think the tax payers mind too much for these things.
     
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  39. HoosDaMan

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    Yeah, I was hoping for an actual number. Was curious. I don't remember Reagan's being this long or grand.
     
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  40. HoosDaMan

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    I mean, the funeral lasted nearly as long as his presidency.
     
  41. AIOLICOCK

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    Just dump that rotting fuck in the ground and move on already
     
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  42. bro

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    seek help bud
     
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  43. Joe_Pesci

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    Uhh
     
  44. bro

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    go on?

    Thinking the death of a President is getting too much attention days after his death is lame. sorry
     
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    “I’m sure they are going to kill me,” Santos Chirino told a U.S. judge, but he was sent home — where he was murdered. Now his words haunt his children at their own asylum hearing.


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/grap...ported-ms-13-honduras/?utm_term=.96d9a4e89fad

    Nearly a year after he was deported, his 18-year-old daughter and 19-year-old son arrived in the Arlington immigration court for their own asylum hearing. They were accompanied by their father’s lawyer, Benjamin Osorio.

    “Your honor, this is a difficult case,” Osorio told Judge John Bryant, asking to speed the process. “I represented their father, Santos Chirino Cruz. . . . I lost the case in this courtroom . . . . He was murdered in April.”

    When Osorio paused, the judge blanched and stammered.

    “You said their father’s case — did I understand I heard [it]?” Bryant asked, eyes wide.

    “No,” Osorio said. “In this court. Not before your honor.”

    “Well good, because — all right, my blood pressure can go down now,” Bryant said. “Yeah. I mean. Okay.”

    The immigration courts declined a request for comment from Snow. But in an essay published in USA Today — after Chirino was deported but before he was killed — the judge said deportation cases could be heartbreaking.

    “Sometimes, there is not much to go on other than the person’s own testimony,” he wrote. “Yet this is not a decision we want to get wrong. I’ve probably been fooled and granted asylum to some who didn’t deserve it. I hope and pray I have not denied asylum to some who did.”


    spoiler: you have
     
  46. AIOLICOCK

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    I don't think its getting too much attention, I just think he was a garbage person, and we should be glad he's dead hth
     
  47. OZ

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    And, at the same time, you get many dipshits from the right (including those that come in here) that can’t get behind funding research on ways to help the planet because it ‘cost too much money’ at this time.

    Here is an idea, let’s get rid of the stupid shit we are funding and focus on industries that can help the planet and create a boatload of jobs in industries we will need moving forward.