Falcons - The Magicla Turnaround

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  1. BudKilmer

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    The nfl is so odd. They spend billions on player performance, scouting, track everything, but just recycle names in certain coaching spots.

    Mike Munchak will likely get two HC interviews.

    All the cool shit that the chiefs, rams, saints, etc are doing on offense and we are looking at Bevell and Koetter. :killme:
     
  2. Fran Tarkenton

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    Dont let the money fool you. These fools are drunk.

    Jake Allen is going 1st round and Mike Mayock is a GM.
     
  3. BudKilmer

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    These fuckers bilk cities for billions, and print money and Mike Mayock gets a job that is more rare than a fn US Senator

    :laugh:

    Only in America
     
  4. Baseballman86

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    Had the same thought recently. Billions of dollars in play, less than 100 “big” jobs between HC and OC/DC, yet the same guys keep getting fired and rehired. Why? I’d rather us take a shot at finding the next McVay or Shanahan than just recycling some old-school guy.
     
  5. Doc Louis

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    So are you saying you don't want Gary Kubiak as a coach?
     
  6. Crepeswithasmile

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    Dirk Koetter to interview today for the OC position according to ESPN
     
  7. seanofthedead86

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    And Mike Mularkey
     
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  9. Jake Scott

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    This is bad. This is going to be a bad time.

    Can we get rid of Beasley, Trufant, Alford, Freeman, the entire OL save Mack(maybe even Mack), the other LSU LB... FWIW I'm still livid we didn't take the trade offered for Vic. smdfh

    Re-sign Grady and Coleman. I assume we will play the young DB's a lot.

    Sign big name pass rusher. Draft OL, DL and edge players.
     
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  10. Crepeswithasmile

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    what was the trade offer for beasley? i missed that i guess
     
  11. Jake Scott

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    The details weren't provided, but it was reported that we turned down an offer for him. It really doesn't matter what we were getting in return :twocents:
     
  12. BudKilmer

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    What did we turn down for Vic?


    I never want to pay a RB again. Keep rookies drafted round 3 or later and bargain basement vets. If Coleman wants more than 5 mm a year let him walk. Put resources repeatedly into both lines of scrimmage
     
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  13. Festus McBadass

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    If teams were offering even a 7th round pick for Vic we should have jumped on it.
     
  14. Doc Louis

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    I for one hope we give up two years worth of picks to draft the next Julio and then overpay to keep him here like we did current Julio.
     
  15. Ralph

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    Looking around the league and what's working for successful teams, you're spot-on more often than not. Seattle is rolling with their 7th rounder, Kansas City had no problem replacing Hunt with their undrafted journeyman, etc.

    Looking here, there's like 6 of the top-25 paid RBs that are in the playoffs this year, and half of those 6 are probably replacement-level RBs:
    https://overthecap.com/position/running-back/

    They shouldn't have paid Freeman, but the fact that they did should make it impossible to resign Coleman with the money he'd be looking for.
     
  16. Chipper>Jeter

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    Still can’t believe we didn’t tank for better draft picks.
     
  17. Fran Tarkenton

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    DQ wants an extension for Vic lol
     
  18. BudKilmer

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    So we have the 2nd highest paid QB and the 4th highest paid RB :laugh:


    No wonder our lines of scrimmage are dog shit with no depth
     
  19. Festus McBadass

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    If he gets an extension, everyone in the organization should be fired.
     
  20. Jake Scott

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    :killme:
     
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  21. Gaknight

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    I want DQ out almost as bad as TD
     
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  22. seanofthedead86

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    So the Broncos are blocking interview requests for Kubiak so I guess he's out of the equation.

    Of Mularkey, Koetter, and Bevell, I would take Bevell but hopefully those aren't the only choices.
     
  23. Jake Scott

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    Dirk just announced as OC

    :killme:
     
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  24. huskerrolly

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    Worst hire imaginable. Fuck this.
     
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    Great, can’t wait until we give Vic a 3 or 4 year deal
     
  26. Festus McBadass

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    6/100
     
  27. Fran Tarkenton

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  28. jkun

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    I just can't comprehend this hire. Like why?

    Fuck man
     
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  29. Room 15

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    Am I weird that I don’t mind it? I mean he had Ryan Fitzpatrick putting up numbers for a little bit
     
  30. huskerrolly

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    Yes you are
     
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  31. Doc Louis

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    The mental gymnastics being done to rationalize it are amazing. Only needing 3 good OL when our gm sucks at evaluating OL was one of the worst sports radio takes I've ever heard
     
  32. Baseballman86

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    I just don’t understand NFL and NCAAF hiring. Seems as if being a failed head coach is the most desirable element in the league. Failure as a HC is like a Harvard MBA.
     
  33. Baseballman86

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    Falcons are in position to be in a terrible spot in 2-3 years. We better either win now, or draft extremely well. If not, DQ probably gone in 2-3 years, then we’re looking for a HC to come in to a spot with a 36yr old QB making $30M per year, an undoubtedly overpaid RB, lack of talent in other spots and even Julio may start to be on the decline by then as well. Us being the Browns is not out of the question if some things go badly.
     
  34. BudKilmer

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    in the current CBA there are 2 ways to build a roster in the NFL. If you have a prodigy QB on a rookie deal (Mahomes) you spend a ton of money putting a lot of talent around him. If you have an expensive QB (Brees) it becomes imperative you hit on numerous draft picks (like the Saints did).

    Because we are stupid, we have a QB with the 2nd highest cap hit, and a RB with the 4th highest cap it.....in addition, we have done a terrible job finding value in the draft. Ridley is a great number 2 WR, Grady Jarrett was a steal, but Vic and Takk look like busts, we don't find or develop linemen on either side of the ball, and basically just kill me.
     
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  35. Chipper>Jeter

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    Every year a Super Bowl winning QB restructures their contract to help the team get back. Mean while our QB with no rings continues to cripple our ability to do so.

    Also fuck this OC hire I’m ready to turn on DQ.
     
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  36. Ralph

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    Todd Monken (interviewing for the Jets' HC) has been the OC in Tampa since 2016. But Dirk was Tampa's OC in 2015 when they were #5 in the league in offense, and that was with 16 games of rookie Jameis Winston, so that's something.
     
  37. Room 15

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    Ah ok figured Dirk was still calling plays
     
  38. BudKilmer

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    Mother fucker

     
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  39. Jake Scott

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    :roll:

    Hey Dan, you don't have an OL, remember? Oh, and Freeman, the guy you paid at RB, is soft as fuck and doesn't play football anymore.
     
  40. jkun

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    lol good thing we just drafted ridley in the 1st
     
  41. The Guglia

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    Simple Dan.

    Guy is awful. Tank for Trevor.
     
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  42. Gaknight

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    Atlanta's Lebron that stays forever
     
  43. Doc Louis

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    And now DQ is hiring an assistant to help with game management. The fuck.
     
  44. Gaknight

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    Sure why not? Not a strong suit the last few seasons.
     
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  45. gordon bombay

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    Should have done this years ago.
     
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  46. Baseballman86

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    Honestly, every team out there from major college to the NFL oughta have a nerd on the sideline whose entire job is clock and game management. Dude doesn’t need to know an ounce of football, just have every statistic and odds ready to go at the drop of a hat. 4th and 1 at midfield in the 1st quarter of tie game “67% chance to win if we go for it, 43% if we don’t”. Too many HCs out there making in-game decisions that decrease their odds of winning.
     
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  47. Doc Louis

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    I think it'd help if they knew some football or at least understood which matchups might work to our favor in a given situation
     
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  48. Baseballman86

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    Yea I mean I doubt they’d get the job otherwise, I just mean to hammer the point that their entire job should be game/clock management from a statistical analysis standpoint, advising the head coach based on those numbers.
     
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  49. Baseballman86

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  50. spydog

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    idk, but Julio didnt sound happy about it. Said we're good and dont need him