And the next time he wants something that people say no to we do it all again. I’m really sorry what your going through but this is his plan to get you to fold and just give him what he wants. It’s no way to run a country
It's great and all that you know a lot about government, and sucks that you're affected by the shutdown. But following your suggestion would be the worst possible result
So your solution is to allow the president the ability to repeatedly shut down the gov't over the next 2 years so he can get everything he wants. He gets 5B this time, in 90 days when the CR runs out he stomps his feet and demands 10B and the end to DACA or he'll never sign anything. Great Plan
Right, because Donald trump is a normal person who definitely won't just do this again whenever he wants something else regardless of the result.
You're being ignorant if you think the end result of this one will have any effect whatsoever on his future behavior.
So you're answer/response is to just give him what he wants? All because you want your paycheck back?
if he's going to do this shit regardless, why the hell should the dems cave? you say yourself that he'll keep doing it regardless of if the dems cave or play hardball so why should the dems choose the option that results in helping erect a racist monument that is a vast waste of money??
This proves my point how easy it is to cheer on from the sidelines when you don't actually understand. Whatever, I'm done. Keep cheering.
Trump will 100% respect institutions of the US as long as we give him 5,000,000,000. He'll be the best boy after that!!
Do we just forget about this? This is Trump's shutdown. Therefore it is up to Trump to come up with some deal to persuade Democrats to give the wall.
No one is fucking cheering dude. You're encouraging leadership to give in to the president's tantrum because you want a paycheck. What in the fucking world is going on?
no one is cheering. they're remaining firm in their convictions on how the dems should handle this. i understand your position is frustrating and all but foh with this self-righteous, "give trump what he wants" bullshit
Take it up with the GOP for not allowing the vote. Pelosi did her job. She’s doing what the people of America want by not caving for this stupid wall.
he's probably been home too long as someone who works from home, you get massive cabin fever early on until you adjust
Stockholm Syndrome in effect. I get it, but giving in now to this behavior gives the green light to similar or ramped-up shenanigans in the future. It’s shitty as hell that it’s happening, but anyone not putting the blame on Trump and McConnell is off-base, IMO. The agreement was made, they’re the ones holding it hostage as a political stunt.
Like, cutig, I assume but am not sure that you live in SC. Pure guess, you might have moved since college. But if you haven't already, call your GOP representatives in the Senate. The pressure is not going to come from the Dem side of the aisle nor the other body of Congress to light a fire under Mitch's ass. It has to come from constituents threatening their jobs from the bottom to then have those R senators threaten Mitch.
I also work for the government. I do feel horrible about anyone's situation that is impact by this government shutdown. But my anger is directed at the person who started it. Not at those who worked it out together and came to a solution.
A bit condescending and tone deaf to tell someone sans paycheck, and with no certainty when the next one comes, that he’s being difficult or is wrong. Of course you don’t want to set Trump up to use the same tactic again. Longer the shutdown goes on the worse it will be for all sides. Trump DGAF about human suffering and the GOP loves smaller govt, it’s more likely that Dems, specifically Chuck, relents first.
Again, everyone understands that. Doesn't justify is crazy stance he has/had. Sorry I bothered you with my words And just because he's being effected by Trump's shutdown doesn't mean we can challenge his opinions.
Agree For sure agree Thats if you believe that the majority of Republicans dont benefit or are directly protected in life because of the federal government. We will see what happens when poor republicans stop seeing those government checks. The coach will always be blamed at the end of the game, despite the short comings of the offense and defense. Especially when you have camera footage of the coach admitting its all his fault. This is about optics, and Trump lost it all when he opened his mouth.
Sorry I was piggybacking off of what you said to talk to user cutig. He's done with us for now so I'm not tagging him.
Mueller vs. Trump and more national and international storylines to know for 2019 A quick guide to what's sure to be a busy year, from Robert Mueller's Russia investigation to the presidential campaign trail to Brexit. By Edward B. Colby [email protected] Updated January 17, 2019 5:54 AM Print Share This year looks like it will be a fast and furious one for news, given what January has brought so far. With so much happening — from a partial federal government shutdown with no end in sight to political upheaval in Britain — it's hard to keep track of it all. With that in mind, here's a look at four major national and international storylines to know about for 2019 — plus wild card candidates for a fifth. Spoiler 1) Mueller vs. Trump Special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia probe has loomed over President Donald Trump's tenure. This year it will probably take center stage. A report by Mueller could be submitted as soon as mid-February, according to NBC News. A judge recently extended Mueller's grand jury in Washington for up to six months, however. The report would go to acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker, who currently oversees Mueller's investigation into Russian election interference — unless Trump’s choice for the permanent role, William Barr, is confirmed beforehand and does not recuse himself. Barr told the Senate Judiciary Committee on Tuesday that it was in the public interest for Mueller to finish his probe, and that he would resist any order by Trump to fire the special counsel without cause. "I will not be bullied into doing anything that I think is wrong by anybody, whether it be editorial boards or Congress or the president," Barr said on the first day of his confirmation hearings. He said he expected to produce his own report to Congress on Mueller's findings, and his goal is release as much information as possible to the public. Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chairman, is scheduled to be sentenced early this year. NPR highlighted something to look out for, asking if Manafort's sentencing hearing will "include new details about the core question that special counsel Robert Mueller's office is investigating: Did Trump's campaign conspire with the Russians who attacked the 2016 presidential election?" 2) Trump vs. House Democrats Democrats in Congress had limited powers during the first two years of Trump's presidency, when Republicans held unified control of the federal government. But after their midterm election wins, Rep. Nancy Pelosi is back as House speaker and Democrats are vying with Trump to set the national agenda. Get the Breaking News newsletter! Get the latest breaking news as it happens. Sign up By clicking Sign up, you agree to our privacy policy. They've already strongly opposed him on the border wall funding during the shutdown fight, foreshadowing more battles on the president's powers and issues such as health care. Two keywords for 2019 are oversight and investigations. Some key players among the new Democratic committee leaders include Rep. Jerrold Nadler of Manhattan, the House Judiciary Committee chairman; Rep. Adam Schiff of California, chairman of the House Intelligence Committee; and Rep. Maxine Waters of California, chairwoman of the House Financial Services Committee. All three could wind up at the center of debates about the Mueller report or even the prospect of impeachment. 3) The 2020 presidential race We barely had time to catch our breath after the midterms before another campaign began to take shape — the 2020 presidential race — though the first votes won't be cast for more than a year. On the last day of 2018, Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) effectively launched her presidential campaign by announcing the formation of an exploratory committee. She was the first major candidate to take that step. The field is filling up fast. Recently, Democrats including Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii (just 37), Julian Castro and Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand of New York have gotten in the race. And many more Democrats are considering a run, from former Vice President Joe Biden to Sen. Kamala Harris of California to Texas' Beto O'Rourke, who just left Congress. On the Republican side, Trump doesn’t have a challenger yet. If he doesn’t get one in the GOP primary, a three-way race isn't out of the question for the general election if a viable conservative or centrist makes an independent or third-party bid. The Democratic debates begin in June, and the Iowa caucuses will be here before you know it — in February 2020. 4) Economic tick tock A roaring economy has been one of the high points of Trump's tenure. But how long will the good times last? There’s Brexit, which is set to finally happen on March 29 — but what will it actually look like after Parliament shot down British Prime Minister Theresa May's deal with the European Union by a historic margin on Tuesday? May survived a no-confidence vote Wednesday. Brexit is expected to hurt the United Kingdom's economy; the question is by how much. There’s the stock market, which has suffered from whiplash lately. The S&P 500 lost 6.2 percent in 2018, its worst year since the financial crisis in 2008. And there’s a global slowdown of the economy. The U.S. economy appears to have grown at about 3 percent in 2018, which would be its best year since 2005. There may not be a repeat, though. "Virtually everyone is expecting growth to slow this year, but how much and how far the slowdown takes us is still anyone's guess," said Chris Rupkey, the chief financial economist at MUFG Union Bank. Aside from fears of a recession, will the trade war between the United States and China get resolved, or intensify? But there are also plenty of reasons for optimism. The U.S. unemployment rate is a very low 3.9 percent, with employers adding a surprising 312,000 jobs in December. And there are more open jobs than the number of unemployed, recently released data from November showed. 5) Wild card possibilities Those are the four storylines we're fairly sure about for 2019. Here are some wild cards that may rise to become another major storyline. What's the impact of China continuing its rise as a global superpower rivaling the United States? (For example, The Daily recently took a two-part look at "What the West Got Wrong About China.") Climate change will continue to impact both the environment and the economy, but will some catastrophic event or major policy breakthrough put it higher on everyone's radars? Health care resonated with many voters in the midterms. Will a court decision or action at the local or state level vault it back into the spotlight? In a divided government, our aging infrastructure again seems like the most natural big-ticket item that both parties could get behind. Can Republicans and Democrats agree on a major initiative? And there’s the ever-present issue of gun control. Will another mass shooting, combined with Parkland activists, a Democratic House and Trump, result in some kind of change this year, or will the status quo remain?
I am absolutely gutted for federal workers. But this reflects on McConnell and the POTUS. Congress would literally override Trump's veto is McConnell allowed a vote. So he has to be pressured beyond what it is worth for him to suck up to Trump. Or the polls have to dip so low that Trump is forced to take a deal. Like I said, it stinks. But we cannot fund the wall. Putting the livelihood of federal workers in the middle of this debate is clearly the work of Trump and no one else.
If anybody criticizing cutiger hadn’t gotten a paycheck for a month, I think they’d be singing a different tune. None of them are wrong, but jeez have some sympathy. This is right out of the Trump playbook, starving people out. How long do you think contractors could go not accepting his payment of 35% of what was owed before they had to take it and move on because they had a business to run and it was better than 0 or whatever a lawsuit would cost? How many times did he fuck over lenders because he could and there weren’t any repercussions? His whole life has tought him that by and large people would rather remove the emotional friction of assholes they happen across by writing off a loss (life is too short...) than have to continue to fight with the asshole for one hundred cents on the dollar. Well Nancy Pelosi recognized a massive chance to debilitate the President, at the peak of whatever power she has, and is going for a hundred cents on the dollar, and the public wants her to go for a hundred cents on the dollar. We’ve spent two years waiting for Trump to get pinned down on something that could break him, well it’s finally here and it’s a monster. You press that attack up unto the risk of total failure because it might be the only chance you get to break him before 2020.
It honestly sets the worst precedent imaginable to spend 5 Billion dollars building an ineffective, racist, monument to one jackass' narcissism.
Boiling down my entire point to my paycheck and being emotional is incredibly condescending and just completely blows by the point I was making fwiw.
Everyone understands that he’s affected by this more than 98% in here. I wish the shutdown wasn’t happening and everyone was getting their deserved paychecks. That knowledge shouldn’t change the fact that him saying the democrats should give trump the money for the sake of ending the shutdown is the correct plan of action.
I apologize if my posting came across that way, and it truly wasn’t my intent to be an asshole or condescending. I interpreted your stance on the matter to be purely from the fact you want to get the money you earned/deserve, which I understand why you feel that way, I just don’t agree that the democrats should give into the shutdown because Trump is a moron
Think I saw that cutting a deal to fund the wall was in the single digits among Democrats. Pelosi couldn’t cut a deal even if she wanted to. The politics are very much on the Democrats side. They just aren’t dealing with a rational actor.
My favorite genre of tweet is reporters quoting Republicans claiming how their strategy is actually kicking ass despite all available evidence.