*Now the Official Jobs Thread* by popular demand

Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by Jax Teller, Oct 18, 2011.

  1. Boo MFer!

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    This type of shit is maddening. It’s why recruiters have such a bad rep.
     
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  2. Cheshire Bridge

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    "Accounting". I do 10-k's and 10-q's. It's a pretty high level gig.
     
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  3. Cheshire Bridge

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    Leave.

    Gotta have balance in your career and learning how to navigate challenges at only one company isn't as valuable as bringing true industry experience to the table at a new company.
     
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  4. Baron

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    This thread got me thinking again, just applied for a job lol
     
  5. LetItSoak

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    Starting a new job on Monday. I work in finance in Atlanta which is a pretty hot market so this may not be applicable everywhere but I just ask outright for the salary range so I dont waste my time or theirs. If it's too low I thank them for the interest but say we're too far apart financially. I don't want to go through the interview process only to find out their max is $10k below my minimum.
     
  6. Cheshire Bridge

    Cheshire Bridge 2017 & 2019 National Champions - Clemson Tigers
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    Didn't know you were an Atlantan. Markets been hot for years now .
     
  7. Baron

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    I'm also in that 2% raise club with Trop too. Only real good way to get a decent size raise is move jobs or get a promotion, but not much upward mobility where I am at right now.
     
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  8. Cheshire Bridge

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    I used to get 3% minimum. I'm actually not even eligible for 2%. They even prorate that amount in the year you start lol.


    Absolutely agree. You aren't going to get your market value unless you hit the market.
     
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  9. Goose

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    Damn, I guess I’ve been lucky because I’ve been promoted twice but the lowest raise I have gotten since becoming full time about 5 years ago was 5%
     
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  10. Baron

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    I will come work with Goose, are you hiring?
     
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  11. Doc Louis

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    Work in analytics in Atlanta and do the same.
     
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  12. Cheshire Bridge

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    LetItSoak Doc Louis the first thing I ask for is the company name to see if I know anyone there.
     
  13. Goose

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    I once had a recruiter that refused to tell me the company name so I said sorry not interested lol

    It seemed legit too not really sure what her deal was
     
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  14. Cheshire Bridge

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    Lol must not have been a company wit a good reputation .
     
  15. mb711

    mb711 West Coast Barner
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    They don't want you to reach out to the company directly, they want their commission.
     
  16. CoastalOrange

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    Read an article a couple years ago that was discussing why the current generation of workers bounce from job to job. It discussed there being a chicken or the egg comment about either employers or employees not having loyalty towards the other so the other side slowly started to lose loyalty in the other one.

    But it went on to point out that the normal average annual increase with a company is around 3% per year. Whereas many people interviewed for the article had around a 15% salary increase when going to another company. So that same individual would have to work for at least 5 yrs with their company to see roughly the same increase they could see simply by jumping to another job. Thought it was interesting to see.
     
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  17. Nug

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    I'm pretty cynical, but I don't think it's chicken or egg--in most situations (unless you're the rainmaker), the employer doesn't give a fuck about you. The instant you stop making them money--by way of dying, leaving, emergency, whatever--they'll have an ad for your replacement in a week. Everyone's situation is unique, but I don't see many good arguments for employees being loyal to their employers; especially at large companies--you're a cog in a machine.

    I've adopted a mentality that my job is a means to an end; not an end in itself. I value traveling and taking significant time off (which sometimes results in me working long weekends, but that's an OK trade for me) above most things, so that is my end. My job performance is the means that allows me to do that. The instant that stops happening I'll start looking for a new job. To an extent, everyone's job is a means rather than an end; a means that allows them free time to do whatever they want.
    I used this exact argument to negotiate a very nice raise at my last job
    I then left for an even higher salary, albeit in a much bigger market, like 2 months later
     
  18. Bo Pelinis

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    And too often older people view loyalty as some sort of virtue. If there's one thing we've all learned in our formative years, it's that loyalty is for morons. Loyalty gets you dick as an employee.
    These Millennials and their selfishness! :old:

    Sorry we came of age when big businesses were getting bailed out whilst cutting long time employees' bags, losing their retirements, then leaving with golden parachutes. If you think I'm interested in that, nah. Doesn't mean I won't be a good employee. Just means I feel no loyalty because jobs are fleeting. They're just jobs. There's so much more to life.
     
  19. Nug

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    Fucking exactly. And has been so magnified the past 10-20 years.
     
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  20. Cheshire Bridge

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    I think our generation has realized that happiness is what matters most. And we're more aware than ever wrt the world around us. That combination gives us the wisdom to make better decisions with increased confidence in chasing a greener grass.



    Common Bermuda is for peasants. Gimme that emerald zoysia.
     
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  21. Bo Pelinis

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    And sometimes the grass isn't greener and your new job sucks but it's a lot easier dealing with just another job if you're making an extra 20k. You can always find another spot to land and, if your last employer still likes you, you'll probably be worth way more to them the second time around (which makes no gd sense at all).
     
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  22. Baron

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  23. Born Again Lefty

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    Speaking of raises, what’s the protocol on raises when you are drastically underpaid?

    For background:

    Started with a company right out of grad school at a help desk position. 8 months later they created a security position for me (my education), and gave me a 5k raise. 8 months later they’re having me report directly to our global manager, and moved me to a different location (these just happened).

    I’m still at minimum 15k underpaid for my position/location/experience/etc. Is there a good way to ask for more? Should I just wait it out until it’s brought up, or start job searching?
     
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  24. Cheshire Bridge

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    Start job searching.


    Wtf are you doing? $15k underpaid?! Go get that pay raise brotha
     
  25. Baron

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    Are you the only one in this position?
     
  26. Born Again Lefty

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    I love the company and in retrospect they are giving me the experience I need, but I’ve been searching lately. They have talked about elevating my title/salary but who knows when that’ll happen.

    I am
     
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  27. Nug

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    If you like the company, maybe come at them with this. Doesn't hurt to be transparent. Couldn't hurt to also have an offer in hand when asking your current employer.
     
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  28. Bo Pelinis

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    Do you have a yearly review? I've found that that is a good time to discuss compensation. If you hear what you want to hear, great, and if not, go job searching.
     
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  29. Born Again Lefty

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    They tried starting back up yearly reviews, but now being under the new manager I’m not sure if he was/is doing them. Even if so they wouldn’t be until the end of the year.

    We do receive our yearly bonuses within the next month, though.
     
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  30. Shawn Hunter

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    Leave
     
  31. thunderstruck

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    Stop pussyfooting around and apply to something. Use that as leverage.

    “I really enjoyed working here but company xzy is going to pay me 30% more and I wanted to see if you’d match it.”
     
  32. whiteboy

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    I'm interviewing for a job Monday that's a big step up (career-wise and in pay) at another school. I work in higher ed at a small university in an office with one of the VP's on campus where he's my direct supervisor but I have no direct reports. It started out as a "the worst they can say is no" but then when they asked if I was still interested this week (applied about a month ago) and I said yes, they seemed excited. Part of me feels like I'm in over my head but at the same time I feel like I already do everything required of this new job. The main difference is right now I have the final say on almost no major decisions and in this new role, I'd be the director over a small satellite location of a much larger university and some of the staff there.

    Any tips to not feel like I'm in over my head? I don't want to straight up tell them I have no authority on a lot of major projects now but I also don't want to act like I was in charge of something and then not be able to go into detail if they want more info. It's hard to find that middle ground and still prove I'm qualified and able to fill this role.
     
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  33. ncrebel

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    Confidence. That’s all. You got this
     
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  34. PAHokie

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    Nobody has experience in something new until they do it. You have to jump into new roles to advance. If you are confident that you can make those decisions then go for it.
     
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  35. whiteboy

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    Appreciate it guys. When they first contacted me this week is when I felt a little in over my head but as the week's gone on I feel much better about the fact that I have a variety experiences in literally every area that they specified in the job posting.
     
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  36. Nug

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    Fake it til you make it
     
  37. CUgator

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    Resigning this afternoon. Going to a competitor, so I'm praying I get walked out, but don't think I'm going to be that lucky because they're going to be up shit creek without me.
     
  38. Cheshire Bridge

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    Well, why wouldn't you resign right now? What's the hold up?
     
  39. CUgator

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    My boss is currently mid air on a cross country flight. I don't feel like giving him a heart attack at 35,000 feet. Will be easier to get medical attention on the ground this afternoon.
     
  40. Cheshire Bridge

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    Take notes
     
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  41. CUgator

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    I'm taking a week off between jobs even if they want me to work the next 2 weeks. Though this would have sounded a lot better pre kids where I could have gotten out of here for a week. Also have a month of PTO to get paid out.
     
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  42. Shawn Hunter

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    My department within the athletic department at my previous employer fell into complete disarray in less a month after I left. Coaches are saying the guy that replaced me is lazy and incompetent and that the school should have paid my at least 3x what they were just so they could have avoided hiring him :laugh:

    I had a feeling it was going to happen too. Me and my replacement worked together for about two weeks so I could show him the ropes for how we do everything. He didn't take a single note, and he, of course, forgot all of it. And the one game we worked together he was like "I can see why I was never responsible for this stuff before." I mean YIKES.

    Kinda sucks to see him having ruined almost everything I built up over 8.5 years in only a month on the job. But fuck those assholes for how they treated me the last few months there.
     
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  43. Boo MFer!

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    How’d it go?
     
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  44. ohhaithur

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    My old department for the same position has been through 6 guys in the 6 years since I left :roll:

    I'm enjoying it tbh
     
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  45. thunderstruck

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    Same reason John Elway keeps bringing shitty QBs to Denver.
     
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  46. Shawn Hunter

    Shawn Hunter Vote Corey Matthews for Congress
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    I am enjoying it as well. This dumbass set up the streaming camera for baseball double header this weekend and had the camera in demo mode, so like every 2 minutes it would show a demo of all the different effects it could do. :roll:

    Should have treated me better and gave me a competitive salary. Fuck 'em. With the salary range they listed when they posted my job, that job is going to be a revolving door of people coming in to get experience then bolting after a year or less.
     
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  47. ohhaithur

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    My first replacement got fired a week in for trying to get an underaged female student worker drunk :)
     
  48. Shawn Hunter

    Shawn Hunter Vote Corey Matthews for Congress
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    A person that was in the same position as I at one of the other schools in our conference married a girl on one of the teams just a few months after she graduated. There is a greater than 100% chance they were dating and fucking before she graduated. And apparently not a single person even batted an eye about it over there.

    Meanwhile, my alma mater fired several coaches for fucking students while I was working there. One even showed up on campus like a week after he was fired with one of the girls he coached :laugh:
     
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  49. Shawn Hunter

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    And a head soccer coach at a conference school got fired last semester for taking his seniors out to drink after the season. But to top it all off, he got drunk and punched one of them in the face at the bar.
     
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  50. Shawn Hunter

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    And I just found out today that one of the schools trustees, who is one of the two biggest donors to athletics who happened to be a big fan of my work, is seriously considering stopping donating for several reasons, one of which is the state of disarray of the department after I left. Man, I really fucked them good :loldog:
     
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