DCEU: Critics are saying The Flash is a great movie of all time 6.16.23

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  1. jackbauer

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    Kevin Smith talked about this on a recent episode of Fatman Beyond, but he spoke with someone who was on the production team for JL, and that person saw Jim Lee's storyboards for all three films in the trilogy.

    The first was close to what we saw. Part Two was the JL taking the fight to Apokolips and it ending "like the Empire Strikes Back" with them failing. The third would have been set in the nightmare vision Batman saw in BVS as they try to save the planet.

    Probably not new news, but I wonder if someone will ever release those storyboards.
     
  2. Illinihockey

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    I can't put my finger one why the movies aren't good. We know Gal Gadot can carry a film, Ben Affleck has been entertaining in good films, Jason Mamoa was really good in Aquaman, these are iconic characters with good actors so why are the movies so blah? Sorry I'm sure all of this was discussed 15 years ago when this movie came out but I just got around to this.
     
  3. Bruce Wayne

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    Zack Snyder just isn't a good story teller to begin with. BvS & MoS were both made up of great individual scenes that collectively didn't make good movies because there was no story to tie those scenstogether.

    I mean how could Snyder have possibly thought that making a mashup movie of The Dark Knight Returns/Death of Superman while ALSO teasing a JL movie was a good idea is beyond me.
     
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  4. Illinihockey

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    Good point, everything just seems rushed and mashed together. Its why I commented above that I can't wait to see how they try to introduce 5-6 additional villains to team up with Luther to oppose the JL. Will be a nightmare just like Suicide Squad was where you really don't give a shit about anyone.
     
  5. MG2

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    MoS and BvS were doomed because of the Nolan trilogy. I think the success of that trilogy made them think they needed to continue that tone, thus sucking one of the iconic American characters of any charisma or joy. That wouldn't solve all the problems there, but it was definitely a massive problem in those two films that dragged everything else down with it.

    I laugh when people talk about the "Snyder cut" for JL (Kevin Smith is one of these people pushing for it). I saw those first two movies. I don't care what the ideas sound like on a podcast. Snyder was never going to make that work.
     
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  6. rickyrubio4life

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    Ben Affleck sucks and has never been remotely entertaining. Going from a talent like Bale to Affleck set this shitshow in motion.
     
  7. skiedfrillet

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    yeah but ben had that sexy crossfit workout
     
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  8. MG2

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    Affleck was fine in BvS. He clearly mailed it in for JL, though.
     
  9. pearl

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    They should’ve never went with a “dark knight returns” inspired version of Batman for this universe
     
  10. Professor Moriarty

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    Zach Snyder makes bro movies and created a Superman he wanted to be. Superman is way too nuanced a character to be bro’d up and Snyder never fucking understood that. Superman always will and always has been an escape fantasy for kids
     
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  12. pearl

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    4 years? Long time
     
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  13. Tex

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    Might be too many other films ahead of it?
     
  14. Tex

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    Also I think a Flash, Black Adam, and possibly Supergirl movie will be added to that schedule.
     
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  16. pearl

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    Deadshot and Harley Quinn were the best parts of the film
     
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  17. TheGrifter

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    They reported the same thing about Robbie before it was confirmed she was in the film a few days later.

    I’m holding off judgement.
     
  18. Codename Duchess

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    The trades didn't report the Robbie news did they? Wasn't that rumor started from some fan blog? I'd take stock in what Variety and Deadline are saying.
     
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  19. Bruce Wayne

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    P sure Black Adam was originally supposed to be the villain in Shazam.

    Speaking of which, Shazam comes out in basically a month and we only have 1 trailer to show for it?
     
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    Ya I think he was the villain or made a cameo and then they decided the rock could hold his own.

    The marketing makes no sense for Shazam. I did see a rumor that they will go hard after Captain Marvel is released. Maybe they didn’t want to compete with it? No clue. Either way bold strategy cotton.
     
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  22. MG2

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    Among all the awful characters and story lines in the first movie, she may have been the worst. Well, second worst after whatever the hell that Enchantress thing was.
     
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    My favorite part was how Enchantress' "brother" could take heavy gunfire and inferno blasts to the chest no problem, but gets blown up by a god damn claymore.
     
  24. Tex

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  25. Bruce Wayne

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    BvS was on tv last night, and I must say that without a shadow of a doubt the most egregious thing about that entire movie was Snyder robbing us of Batman breaking into Lexcorp to steal the Kryptonite. Literally all we see of it was a fucking deleted scene only shown in the extended version

     
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    Shazam has had a good marketing campaign. Looks like a decent movie.
     
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  27. dump

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    I’ll watch it because of Chuck

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  28. Wu

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    But Yvonne Strahovski isn’t in it so what’s the point
     
  29. dump

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    good point
     
  30. MG2

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    In my mind, the last 3 episodes of Chuck never happened and this is what became of him in season 6.
     
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  32. Tex

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    I’m finally watching the new season of Young Justice. I’m through 7 episodes I believe. Good stuff so far. What’s the deal with the endings?
     
  33. rickyrubio4life

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    They’re bypassing the runup to Captain Marvel but will swim in Endgame’s wake?
     
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    Aquaman is out...
     
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  35. Tex

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    The Shazam sneak peak with Aquaman was pretty good.
     
  36. Bruce Wayne

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  37. Wu

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    Even with Gunn, and now Elba and assuming Robbie stays on I refuse to get my hopes up
     
  38. Tex

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  39. Bruce Wayne

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    Joel kinnaman isn't returning as Rick Flagg either
     
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  40. Wu

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    If they literally just didn’t include rick Flagg it would be better than Joel kinnaman
     
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    Well this just sounds terrible. Hope it’s bs
     
  42. TheGrifter

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    Eh, it’s James Gunn. He loves obscure characters, and he does a great job with them. I’m not that worried.
     
  43. TheGrifter

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    First reactions to Shazam are dropping, and they're pretty unanimously saying it is great.

    "Big with superpowers" tends to be the most common comparison being thrown around.
     
  44. Nostradumass

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    Basically WB never should have let Chris Nolan hire Zack Snyder. They set themselves back a decade.
     
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    Can’t wait for HBO’s Watchmen blows Snyder’s version out of the water
     
  46. bturns

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    I don’t think WB had a real plan after Christopher Nolan Batman. Hindsite is 20/20 but they should have shelved Batman for a few years longer before trying to do another one.

    And yes, Zach Snyder should not have been the director...
     
  47. IanBoyd

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    Its unfathomable the amount of consecutive fuck ups a studio would need to pull off to kill their expanded universe coming off of The Dark Knight 10 years ago.
     
  48. Wu

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    They shouldn’t have panicked and rushed to do a JL movie

    Man of Steel wasn’t great but it wasn’t awful. Should’ve done WW immediately after and then a good GL movie
     
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