Trumpocalypse: No hanky/lanky

Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by GoodForAnother, Mar 22, 2017.

  1. CaneKnight

    CaneKnight FSU Private Board's Fav Poster
    Donor

    This isn’t 2016 anymore. People at least on the democratic side care about what policies ur pushing. Any candidate not pushing Medicare for all, universal childcare, going after banks etc... is ultimately putting themselves at a severe disadvantage. If this were the general and not primaries I’d agree because majority Americans are paste eating morons
     
  2. Crepeswithasmile

    Crepeswithasmile Well-Known Member
    Donor
    Alabama Crimson TideLos Angeles LakersDallas CowboysSneakers

    Prissy Pete
     
    Lipp and NilesIrish like this.
  3. NYGator

    NYGator Well-Known Member
    Donor
    Florida GatorsNew York YankeesNew York KnicksNew York GiantsNew York IslandersNew York City Football ClubTottenham HotspurUnited States Men's National Soccer Team

    Why is it so hard for you guys to understand that I am not sharing my opinion of what I want to happen. I agree with you. People are who they are though. Our fucking society is not that smart, but most of all, people make decisions with their reptilian brains and then justify those decisions with logic after the fact. This is human nature.

    Right now on this board, I believe most people are looking at the issues and choosing someone to get behind based upon the issues that they align with. At the same time though, personality is a factor. I respect a lot of the people who want to get behind Pete, because he is an executive, and I believe there is a huge difference between having ideas and executing ideas, and I think the best candidates are those who can do all three. Unfortunately, I think most people focus on safe decisions and personality.
     
    Beeds07, ~ taylor ~ and NilesIrish like this.
  4. NYGator

    NYGator Well-Known Member
    Donor
    Florida GatorsNew York YankeesNew York KnicksNew York GiantsNew York IslandersNew York City Football ClubTottenham HotspurUnited States Men's National Soccer Team

    I agree with you in principle. The policies will have an impact, but the acknowledgment that there is an issue that impacts someone and I as a candidate will do whatever is possible to solve that (independent of specific policy) will resonate similarly. I do think it is premature to jump to a conclusion that one policy is going to dominate over the totality of all important positions, and at the root of it is not which policy is supported, but what problem are you trying to solve. For example, the issue is healthcare is too expensive or prohibitive. If a candidate can convince voters that their needs will be covered by their policy and it is not medicare for all, I believe it can achieve the same purpose as far as votes go.
     
  5. RSK

    RSK Well-Known Member
    Donor TMB OG
    Rutgers Scarlet KnightsBrooklyn NetsBaltimore RavensNew Jersey DevilsManchester United

    Fair enough wrt to what you think is gonna happen vs what you want to happen but I still disagree.

    2016 shattered the norms of "likability" being the bench mark as we saw the most unfavorable candidate of all time beat out the 2nd most unfavorable candidate of all time. I'm not saying everyone is a policy wonk all of a sudden but I don't think "politician speak" is going to work on people any more.
     
    Lipp likes this.
  6. NYGator

    NYGator Well-Known Member
    Donor
    Florida GatorsNew York YankeesNew York KnicksNew York GiantsNew York IslandersNew York City Football ClubTottenham HotspurUnited States Men's National Soccer Team

    Politician speak always works as long as it comes off as sincere. That's why they do it. Most people are not as smart as the group we have on this board, and most people do not follow these issues as closely as we do.
     
  7. CaneKnight

    CaneKnight FSU Private Board's Fav Poster
    Donor

    Look at some of the politicians we just elected to the house. That likability shit and favoritism towards white males is out the window
     
  8. Tug

    Tug Well-Known Member
    Donor
    Detroit LionsDetroit PistonsMichigan State Spartans

    One benefit of electing a homosexual is that it would probably be the nail in the coffin of the “Tea Party.”

    I wonder how they would rebrand.
     
    Lipp, ~ taylor ~ and NilesIrish like this.
  9. Prospector

    Prospector I am not a new member
    Donor
    Utah UtesArkansas Razorbacks

  10. NCHusker

    NCHusker We named our yam Pam. It rhymed.
    Donor TMB OG
    Nebraska CornhuskersChicago CubsDenver NuggetsKansas City ChiefsAvengersUnited States Men's National Soccer TeamUSA BasketballBig 8 ConferenceBig Ten ConferenceNebraska Cornhuskers alt

    I think there's a common misconception that purple states are full of purple people when polling doesn't seem to support that. Purple states just have lots of blue and red people. You don't need moderate candidates to win those states. You need people who will get more blue people voting than red people. Anyone who is inclined to vote for Pete won't give a fuck that he's gay.
     
  11. RSK

    RSK Well-Known Member
    Donor TMB OG
    Rutgers Scarlet KnightsBrooklyn NetsBaltimore RavensNew Jersey DevilsManchester United

    Like I said maybe that used to be the case but not any more people can smell the bs. This is why people like a candidate who "tells it like it is" This is why Trump differentiated himself from a pack of 10+ Republicans that did nothing but speak in platitudes and odds on favorite Marco Rubio flamed out. This is why Bernie Sanders/Joe Biden are so popular. Unfiltered comes off as authentic. Again I think Beto is using an outdated strategy from 2008.
     
    Lipp and CaneKnight like this.
  12. NYGator

    NYGator Well-Known Member
    Donor
    Florida GatorsNew York YankeesNew York KnicksNew York GiantsNew York IslandersNew York City Football ClubTottenham HotspurUnited States Men's National Soccer Team

    Are you saying that Beto doesn't come off as authentic? If so, I disagree. I think that is his number one strength.
     
    Dirt Dirt McGirt and chuckles like this.
  13. PeterGriffin

    PeterGriffin Iced and/or sweet tea is for dirty rednecks.
    Florida State SeminolesPhoenix SunsTottenham HotspurAvengersSan Diego PadresBorussia MönchengladbachFormula 1

    In tangential news, the Brits continue to be fucking morons about Brexit. A House vote just failed for a second referendum aka let the people vote again now that they see what a clusterfuck it would be and now that they realize they were tricked by Russian disinfo campaigns.
     
  14. Where Eagles Dare

    Where Eagles Dare The Specialist Show On Earth
    Donor
    Auburn TigersAtlanta BravesWashington Football TeamAtlanta United

    Can we get some "political fan of" section going??

    I need to know which hardliners to laugh at when they talk shit about the other candidates.
     
    steamengine and ~ taylor ~ like this.
  15. Name P. Redacted

    Name P. Redacted I have no money and I'm also gay
    Donor
    Kansas State WildcatsSeattle Kraken

    Sure, but Trump represented the new frontier of a nihilistic hellworld. Now we’re here and the options are more of the same shit or something (slightly to moderately) better.
     
  16. VaxRule

    VaxRule Mmm ... Coconuts
    Donor TMB OG
    Michigan WolverinesSwansea

    Never underestimate the ability of hellworld to get even worse.
     
  17. Tobias

    Tobias dan “the man qb1” jones fan account
    Donor
    North Carolina TarheelsAtlanta BravesCharlotte HornetsNew York GiantsManchester CityNational LeagueBarAndGrill

    so brave thom. fuck that guy so much

     
  18. Fran Tarkenton

    Fran Tarkenton Hilton Honors VIP
    Donor
    Wake Forest Demon DeaconsGeorgia Bulldogs

    Good. Tillis unnecessarily endangering his reelection bid even more. I wish the NC AG would run for that seat.
     
    Dirt Dirt McGirt, Lipp, ARCO and 9 others like this.
  19. Prospector

    Prospector I am not a new member
    Donor
    Utah UtesArkansas Razorbacks

    They always get in line.
     
    BellottiBold and Tug like this.
  20. Truman

    Truman Well-Known Member
    Donor
    Missouri TigersSt. Louis CardinalsChicago BullsSt. Louis BluesEvertonBook Club

    The next Tom that spells it "Thom" that is not a total turd will be the first.
     
  21. Fran Tarkenton

    Fran Tarkenton Hilton Honors VIP
    Donor
    Wake Forest Demon DeaconsGeorgia Bulldogs

    :laugh: expected but still lmao at "Constitutional Conservative"

     
  22. bro

    bro Your Mother’s Favorite Shitposter
    Donor
    Tennessee VolunteersLos Angeles DodgersBuffalo BillsBuffalo Sabres

    He is TOAST as long as a good Democratic candidate emerges
     
    Dirt Dirt McGirt, Lipp, ARCO and 8 others like this.
  23. NYGator

    NYGator Well-Known Member
    Donor
    Florida GatorsNew York YankeesNew York KnicksNew York GiantsNew York IslandersNew York City Football ClubTottenham HotspurUnited States Men's National Soccer Team

    So 12 defectors. That is pretty significant.

     
    Dirt Dirt McGirt, Lipp, ARCO and 14 others like this.
  24. bro

    bro Your Mother’s Favorite Shitposter
    Donor
    Tennessee VolunteersLos Angeles DodgersBuffalo BillsBuffalo Sabres

    what is also significant is that 41 voted for the President to usurp his power like a tyrant.
     
    Dirt Dirt McGirt, Lipp, ARCO and 25 others like this.
  25. prerecordedlive

    prerecordedlive Sworn Enemy of Standard Time
    Donor TMB OG
    Florida State SeminolesTampa Bay RaysOrlando CityWolverhampton WanderersBarAndGrill

    Gaetz also voted “present”. I hate him so much.
     
  26. ButchCassidy

    ButchCassidy Well-Known Member
    Donor
    Ohio State BuckeyesColumbus CrewUnited States Men's National Soccer TeamSneakers

    take it to the 2020 thread :out:




    <3
     
    Beeds07 likes this.
  27. Fran Tarkenton

    Fran Tarkenton Hilton Honors VIP
    Donor
    Wake Forest Demon DeaconsGeorgia Bulldogs

    think all - but Collins - are doing it out of fear of what a Democratic POTUS will able to do under than precedent. (Suppose Toomey too with Collins).

    Tillis, Gardner, McSally going the Dean Heller approach towards career suicide.
     
    slogan119 and BudKilmer like this.
  28. cutig

    cutig My name is Rod, and I like to party
    Donor
    Clemson TigersNebraska CornhuskersCarolina PanthersKansas City Chiefs

    This seems like another opportunity to say

    Fuck Ben sassy. What a fucking pussy.
     
  29. Tug

    Tug Well-Known Member
    Donor
    Detroit LionsDetroit PistonsMichigan State Spartans

    Those 41 names need to be listed everywhere
     
  30. Tobias

    Tobias dan “the man qb1” jones fan account
    Donor
    North Carolina TarheelsAtlanta BravesCharlotte HornetsNew York GiantsManchester CityNational LeagueBarAndGrill

    so now he vetoes this and there won't be enough defections to override it....so then it goes to court?
     
  31. BWC

    BWC It was the BOAT times, it was the WOAT times
    Donor
    Nebraska CornhuskersChicago CubsPittsburgh SteelersPittsburgh PenguinsNebraska Cornhuskers alt

    So many opportunities, yet not a single one should be missed.
     
  32. BudKilmer

    BudKilmer Well-Known Member
    Donor TMB OG
    Atlanta HawksAtlanta FalconsAvengers

    Fuck GOP traitors
     
    Lipp, ARCO, Prospector and 6 others like this.
  33. Where Eagles Dare

    Where Eagles Dare The Specialist Show On Earth
    Donor
    Auburn TigersAtlanta BravesWashington Football TeamAtlanta United

    What was the last major legislation that passed on the President Vetoed it?
     
  34. Tug

    Tug Well-Known Member
    Donor
    Detroit LionsDetroit PistonsMichigan State Spartans

    He completely ignored the Russia sanctions
     
  35. NYGator

    NYGator Well-Known Member
    Donor
    Florida GatorsNew York YankeesNew York KnicksNew York GiantsNew York IslandersNew York City Football ClubTottenham HotspurUnited States Men's National Soccer Team

    I think this is his first veto.
     
  36. Tobias

    Tobias dan “the man qb1” jones fan account
    Donor
    North Carolina TarheelsAtlanta BravesCharlotte HornetsNew York GiantsManchester CityNational LeagueBarAndGrill

  37. dome foam

    dome foam ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    Donor
    Texas LonghornsHouston AstrosHouston RocketsHouston Texans

    it's better as a gif. there has never been a more appropriate gif usage in the history of gifs.

    [​IMG]
     
  38. Duck70

    Duck70 Let's just do it and be legends, man
    Donor
    Oregon Ducks

    I have often said, the only good thing about a civil war will be killing these fucking fascists.
     
    Lipp, ARCO, Prospector and 5 others like this.
  39. Truman

    Truman Well-Known Member
    Donor
    Missouri TigersSt. Louis CardinalsChicago BullsSt. Louis BluesEvertonBook Club

    Is this considered major legislation ?
     
  40. NYGator

    NYGator Well-Known Member
    Donor
    Florida GatorsNew York YankeesNew York KnicksNew York GiantsNew York IslandersNew York City Football ClubTottenham HotspurUnited States Men's National Soccer Team

     
  41. Where Eagles Dare

    Where Eagles Dare The Specialist Show On Earth
    Donor
    Auburn TigersAtlanta BravesWashington Football TeamAtlanta United

    I'm talking in general, even under Obama or prior
     
  42. BrentTray

    BrentTray I’m thinking Dorsia.
    Donor
    Nebraska CornhuskersKansas City RoyalsKansas City ChiefsBig 8 ConferenceNebraska Cornhuskers alt

    Ben Sasse sucks so much. Seriously fuck that guy.
     
  43. NYGator

    NYGator Well-Known Member
    Donor
    Florida GatorsNew York YankeesNew York KnicksNew York GiantsNew York IslandersNew York City Football ClubTottenham HotspurUnited States Men's National Soccer Team

    George W. Bush
    Main article: George W. Bush
    Twelve vetoes, including one veto whose status is disputed (Bush claimed it was a pocket veto; the Senate considers it to have been a regular veto):

    1. July 19, 2006: Vetoed H.R. 810, Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act of 2005, a bill to ease restrictions on federal funding for embryonic stem cell research. Override attempt failed in House, 235–193 (286 needed).
    2. May 1, 2007: Vetoed H.R. 1591, U.S. Troop Readiness, Veterans' Care, Katrina Recovery, and Iraq Accountability Appropriations Act, 2007. Override attempt failed in House, 222–203 (284 needed). A later version of the bill that excluded certain aspects of the initial legislation that the President disapproved of H.R. 2206, was enacted as Pub.L. 110–28 with the President's approval.
    3. June 20, 2007: Vetoed S. 5, Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act of 2007. No override attempt made.
    4. October 3, 2007: Vetoed H.R. 976, Children's Health Insurance Program Reauthorization Act of 2007 ("SCHIP"). Override attempt failed in House, 273–156 (286 votes needed).
    5. November 2, 2007: Vetoed H.R. 1495, Water Resources Development Act of 2007. Overridden by House, 361–54 (277 votes needed). Overridden by Senate, 79–14 (62 needed), and enacted as Pub.L. 110–114 over the President's veto.
    6. November 13, 2007: Vetoed H.R. 3043, Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act of 2008. Override attempt failed in House, 277–141 (279 votes needed).
    7. December 12, 2007: Vetoed H.R. 3963, Children's Health Insurance Program Reauthorization Act of 2007.[31] Override attempt failed in House, 260–152 (275 votes needed).
    8. December 28, 2007: Vetoed H.R. 1585, National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008.[32] No override attempt made. A later version of the bill that changed a minor provision of which the President disapproved was quickly passed by Congress (H.R. 4986) and was enacted with the President's approval as Pub.L. 110–181 on January 28, 2008.[note 1]
    9. March 8, 2008: Vetoed H.R. 2082, Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008.[33][34] Override attempt failed in House, 225–188 (276 votes needed).
    10. May 21, 2008: Vetoed H.R. 2419, 2007 U.S. Farm Bill.[35][36] Overridden by House, 316–108 (283 votes needed). Overridden by Senate, 82–13 (64 votes needed). Enacted as Pub.L. 110-234 over the President's veto. Due to a clerical error, this act was repealed by Pub.L. 110-246.
    11. June 18, 2008: Vetoed H.R. 6124, 2007 U.S. Farm Bill, re-passed by Congress to correct a clerical error in HR 2419.[37] Overridden by House, 317–109 (284 votes required). Overridden by Senate, 80–14 (63 votes needed). Enacted as Pub.L. 110–246 over the President's veto.
    12. July 15, 2008: Vetoed H.R. 6331, Medicare Improvements for Patients and Providers Act of 2008.[38] Overridden by House, 383–41 (283 votes required.) Overridden by Senate, 70–26 (64 votes required). Enacted as Pub.L. 110–275 over the President's veto.
    Barack Obama
    Main article: Barack Obama
    President Obama issued twelve vetoes; of which the status of five is disputed. (Obama considered them pocket vetoes, but since he returned the parchments to Congress, the Senate considers them regular vetoes.) They are:[39]

    1. December 30, 2009: Vetoed H.J.Res. 64, a joint resolution making further continuing appropriations for fiscal year 2010, and for other purposes. Override attempt failed in House, 143–245, 1 present (260 needed).[40][note 2]
    2. October 7, 2010: Vetoed H.R. 3808, the Interstate Recognition of Notarizations Act of 2010. Override attempt failed in House, 185–235 (280 needed).[41][note 2]
    3. February 24, 2015: Vetoed S. 1, the Keystone XL Pipeline Approval Act.[42] Override attempt failed in Senate, 62–36 (66 needed).
    4. March 31, 2015: Vetoed S.J.Res. 8, a joint resolution providing for congressional disapproval under chapter 8 of title 5, United States Code, of the rule submitted by the National Labor Relations Board relating to representation case procedures.[43][note 2][note 3] The Senate voted to table the veto message rather than vote on an override of the veto. Tabled 96–3.
    5. October 22, 2015: Vetoed H.R. 1735, the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2016.[44]
    6. December 19, 2015: Vetoed S.J.Res. 23, a joint resolution providing for congressional disapproval under chapter 8 of title 5, United States Code, of a rule submitted by the Environmental Protection Agency relating to "Standards of Performance for Greenhouse Gas Emissions from New, Modified, and Reconstructed Stationary Sources: Electric Utility Generating Units".[45][note 2]
    7. December 19, 2015: Vetoed S.J.Res. 24, a joint resolution providing for congressional disapproval under chapter 8 of title 5, United States Code, of a rule submitted by the Environmental Protection Agency relating to "Carbon Pollution Emission Guidelines for Existing Stationary Sources: Electric Utility Generating Units".[45][note 2]
    8. January 8, 2016: Vetoed H.R. 3762, the Restoring Americans' Healthcare Freedom Reconciliation Act of 2015.[46] Override attempt failed in House, 241–186 (285 votes needed).
    9. January 19, 2016: Vetoed S.J.Res. 22, a joint resolution providing for congressional disapproval under chapter 8 of title 5, United States Code, of the rule submitted by the Corps of Engineers and the Environmental Protection Agency relating to the definition of "waters of the United States" under the Federal Water Pollution Control Act[47]
    10. June 8, 2016: Vetoed H.J.Res. 88, a joint resolution disapproving the rule submitted by the Department of Labor relating to the definition of the term "Fiduciary".[48]
    11. July 22, 2016: Vetoed H.R. 1777, Presidential Allowance Modernization Act of 2016.[49]
    12. September 23, 2016: Vetoed S. 2040, Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act.[50] Overridden by Senate, 97–1 (66 votes needed).[51] Overridden by House, 348–77, 1 present (284 votes needed).[52] Enacted as Pub.L. 114–222 over the President's veto.
     
  44. Truman

    Truman Well-Known Member
    Donor
    Missouri TigersSt. Louis CardinalsChicago BullsSt. Louis BluesEvertonBook Club

    Obama vetoed a bunch of shit. Mostly budget appropriations and healthcare attacks.
     
  45. NYGator

    NYGator Well-Known Member
    Donor
    Florida GatorsNew York YankeesNew York KnicksNew York GiantsNew York IslandersNew York City Football ClubTottenham HotspurUnited States Men's National Soccer Team

    Yes, that's what I wondered. This is not legislation. It is an emergency executive declaration.
     
  46. Duck70

    Duck70 Let's just do it and be legends, man
    Donor
    Oregon Ducks

    [​IMG]
     
    ARCO, slogan119, Beeds07 and 2 others like this.
  47. Where Eagles Dare

    Where Eagles Dare The Specialist Show On Earth
    Donor
    Auburn TigersAtlanta BravesWashington Football TeamAtlanta United

    God damn Bush really vetoed some good bills.

    Fuck him