Season 8--No Holds Barred: Leaks, whispers and Spoilers Galore (hopefully)

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  1. Joe_Pesci

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    Like one of the dragons becoming a zombie dragon
     
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  2. Doc Louis

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    Surpassed by that moment when Jon found out he's been fucking his sister
     
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  3. Damion

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    You mean his aunt
     
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    Tormund is still alive

    Bless
     
  5. Damion

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    The spoilers posted were pretty spot on
     
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    Yup going to have to avoid that guys Twitter going forward
     
  7. Sir Phobos

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    that was good shit. so many threads being tied up, everything will mean something this season. my one complaint is the "hurr hurr North" stuff is like season 1-3-esque shit. it's so painfully irrelevant now and Sansa holding onto it for dear life, especially as she's being written as the best player at the game, is bad writing. it's almost like she still believes there's no threat or something, it's just off to me. them having faith enough to make Jon king then ignore him screaming "we're all probably going to die to the undead horde marching on us" is just off-putting slightly.
     
  8. Damion

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    Preety much my exact thoughts

    the guy is legit so avoid him like the plague
     
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  9. Imurhuckleberry

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    Thought the R+L=J reveal could have been handled better. Basically no evidence provided and Jon seems to believe his whole life was a lie.
     
  10. Damion

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    I think that had more to do with who it was coming from than anything else. He probably trusts Sam more than anyone else and knows he wouldn't lie about something like that
     
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  11. Hoss Bonaventure

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    Exactly. He knows Sam wouldn’t say that if it weren’t true that he read about it. Bran will back it up next episode and will also tell him about Jamie. Just my guess.
     
  12. Imurhuckleberry

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    I mean that's the cop out that they went with. Just suboptimal writing as usual.
     
  13. Damion

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    I mean the only other way they could have done is with Bran going super creepy and that would have just made everything awkward
     
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  14. Imurhuckleberry

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    I would have liked to have seen him at first be like um you're crazy and then have Sam be like evidence, + dragons like you + something else. Just seemed like it went to fast and easy.
     
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  16. Mister Me Too

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    They had faith to make him King of the North but they are losing faith in him since he left and Sansa has been running things better than he did.

    None of the people in the North have ever seen the WW so when you believe someone off blind faith and they start to make questionable decisions it’s easy to lose trust in that person.
     
  17. Corky Bucek

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    One of my biggest gripes about the episode was that the captain of the Golden Company had an accent and was named Strickland. Poor and lazy writing.
     
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  18. Sir Phobos

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    But like, they're all preparing for the battle. They accept enough to start smithing weapons and getting ready for everything but DA NORF still overtakes what should be common sense at that point. I don't know, between this and what I assume will be Sam actively trying to subvert Dany it just seems like a hamfisted sideplot. Dany has been in DA NORF for two days and everyone is a jealous girl because Jon is now fucking someone, just nonsense.
     
  19. Hoss Bonaventure

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    He may very well be named Strickland in the books but we will never know that for sure.
     
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  20. Mister Me Too

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    It’s not about jealousy over Jon, Dany’s Father did kill a lot of Northern Lords, I think it would be worse if there was no tension between the North and Dany.
     
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    perhaps they will put his propane connections to use in the war against the night king
     
  22. Struggler

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    Was there a boy with multi colored hair in the Golden Company scenes?
     
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  24. Damion

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    The Golden Company was founded by Blackfyres and exiles so Strickland may be a descendant of one of them and having grown up in Essos he has an accent
     
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  25. Hoss Bonaventure

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    Was fAegon leading the golden company?
     
  26. Corky Bucek

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    My post was making fun of the people talking shit about minute details. But you are right about the Blackfyres and they also had Jon Connington.
     
  27. Corky Bucek

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    Besides the dragon glass, does the weapon that Arya asks Gendry to make have any sort of significance?
     
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  28. Struggler

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    In the books he was still a boy hidden by the company. I put too much faith in “the seed is strong” and Targ’s having white hair, to say Strickland isn’t fAegon
     
  29. Sir Phobos

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    I'm guessing the reason is "let's her do badass shit".
     
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    Except Harry Strickland has already been introduced in the books.
     
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    I agree with you. The problem is that D&D have trouble with nuance. It’s perfectly reasonable for the North to be skeptical of Dany at first. However, the North should also be written smart enough to understand that despite their trepidations they need to band together to survive. There is no greater highlight of this than no one (not even Dany FFS) having more than a one second reaction to the NK having a dragon. That legitimately means the NK could attack at any moment. No one seems to take this seriously because the first two episodes are about ticking off the boxes of reunions, Jon’s parentage reveal, and cheap drama before episode 3.
     
  32. Doc Louis

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    5 more episodes and people worrying about shit happening off camera or minute details that don't exist because the author got lazier about writing.
     
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  33. Sir Phobos

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    anything this season that isn't A) fighting the Others or B) tying up loose ends is dumb, minus plot resolution in the last episode. this is a bad sideplot, everyone needs to be concerned with not becoming the undead over who the fuck they bend the knee to, it's so totally irrelevant right now.

    the only legit gripe made was when they asked how they were going to feed everyone but the resolution to that will be the upcoming battle.
     
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  34. Lloyd Xmas

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    What was it? I didn’t get a good look at it but wasn’t about to pause or anything.
     
  35. 34

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    What? Aegon is leading the Golden Company by the time they are in Westeros. Also, why Aegon and Harry are two completely different characters.
     
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    Then I have misremembered his part from the books. I didn’t believe they would introduce Aegon in the show now that they are down a dragon.
     
  37. Doc Louis

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    Detachable spear/torch combo I think. The non-dragon glass spear end was a little blurry
     
  38. Name P. Redacted

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    There was a still frame posted to reddit but I still can’t quite figure it out. It was some kind of double ended detachable weapon.
     
  39. Hoss Bonaventure

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    They did introduce Aegon. The real one anyways.
     
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  41. Damion

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    The way I see it is that the Northern folk are an extremely proud people and they named Jon their king. Then he basically goes and throws it way like it means nothing. They haven't really seen the White Walkers yet so while Jon is saying he had to do they aren't really sure it was necessary. So basically they think he bent the knee and invited a foreign army into their lands because he caught feels for Dany.

    We will see if that changes after the Night King shows up
     
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    Found a higher quality picture of it...

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  43. Imurhuckleberry

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    Exactly. So many missed opportunities. "What's wrong with the dragons?" "Oh they don't like the north."

    Throw away line that could have been replaced by meaningful dialogue discussing a dragon being turned. The dragon's maybe sensing it. What would happen in dragon vs dragon battle. But nah...

    I call this the "crunching beetles" method of writing from d&d. Come up with some trite pointless dialogue and sacrifice valuable dialogue that would add story depth while moving the plot along.

    My bff put it perfectly. "They checked all the boxes for the story but somehow completely missed the story."
     
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  44. Tarpon Nole

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    Exactly. She could have said something like "they'll never allow a non targ to ride" and then her act surprised and say something like "I was always told they could sense targs" and then lead into the Jon reveal

    Took me 2 mins to think of that and they had two years plus
     
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  45. Tarpon Nole

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    Anyone notice the really specific locations in the intro?

    I think I saw the WF crypts, the throne room in KL, the dragon pit? Maybe more
     
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    Yeah it was pretty weird when Cersei's Vagina was one of the spots.
     
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    “Then keep your Queen warm”

    Pfffftttt, sometimes I think D&D are trolling us
     
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  48. Joe_Pesci

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    so that reddit spoiler dude was basically 100% correct
     
  49. pearl

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    Have you heard anything about him having a synopsis out for episode 2 yet?
     
  50. Hoss Bonaventure

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    Couldn’t they just build a fire and she could just go and sit in it?