She’s giving Dany the cold shoulder because she doesn’t trust her and Sansa is not exactly focused on the battle she seems more focused on braving the winter and what happens after that. Also when she was with Joffrey she was still a pawn learning to play the game, the show is did a terrible job of portraying Sansa’s Growth because they have decided to eliminate characters to make it easier to follow.
You don’t think focusing on surviving winter conditions instead of surviving the white walkers is incredibly stupid? For one, the amount of mouths she thinks she needs to provide for is about to lessen substantially.
How long would it take to get an army from winterfell to king’s Landing? What about a dragon? Is the show even bothering with these details any longer?
The army of the dead? Awhile since the only ones on horse back are the white walkers. They have to walk all the way there. The NK could have already have been at Winterfell by now if the army is already at Last Hearth. That’s why I think the theory of him taking the dragon to KL is plausible. He could be at KL by the time the dead army reaches Winterfell. It’s not like his dragon or himself gets tired or needs food and water or whatever. He can just put the pedal to the wings and go.
No, I do not think it’s stupid to focus on the aftermath since their goal is to win and she is not a battle commander. Also she has never seen the White Walkers, she hasn’t even seen a wight, so she may not understand how severe the threat is. All of the smartest people on the show underestimated the real threat, LF, Tywin, even Tyrion.
Sansa, like Cersei and everyone else, has no idea of the severity of the dead army and the white walkers. She believes Jon but she just has no idea the danger they’re all in.
Since Westeros is roughly the size of South America, it would probably take months. Didn’t it take King Robert like 6 months or something? Doesn’t matter though because season 7 showed us teleporting is completely possible
I know we've made a lot of jokes about Little finger helicopter over the years but that shit that happened last season when the snow patrol was stuck on that little slab of ice has removed any expectations of realistic time scales for this show ever again.
Well they kinda wrote themselves into a corner when they decided to send bad company up there to bring back a whight. With such a massive story to wrap up in so little time, I’m willing to overlook details like that
I'm old enough to remember when Robb Stark had to pledge to marry a Frey girl just to cross a fucking river
just watched S1 E1 last night and they say several times that they have been traveling for a month after they make it to Winterfell.
He’s just making sure they search every nook and granny in Westeros in case someone left a spare dragon laying around. Not sure if it’s the case in the show and I could be misremembering the books but I believe in the books the army of the dead only come out at night, which would explain their slow movements, but the show has made no mention of this being the case.
in the opening scene of Ep 1 it is day time when the 3 guys go north of the wall and run into some white walkers.
i did too, but Cersei tells Robert that right after they get to Winterfell when he asks Ned to take him to the crypts. it's mentioned a couple of more times after that.
Winterfell is that big?!? Taking a month to go from Kings Landing to Winterfell might be doable, if you assume that a mounted train averages about 30-35mi/day on the Kingsroad. If, however, you assume that people are walking alongside the horses, then the horses have to go at the rate of the walkers, which slows down the group - armored men can't walk 25mi/day for any period of time before just breaking down. There are also wagons, which don't travel that fast. They may have just said a month when in fact it took longer, maybe 40 days and then they rounded down. Or they may have been lazy with the dialogue writing.
if you didn't figure out Sansa's arc from the time you finished reading the first book, you're not a very bright person, it's not as though George is immune to tropes.
That’s fucking retarded. We saw the man they turned into the NK and we saw Rhaegar on the show. They look nothing alike. We also know that the NK existed long before Rhaegar by the cave drawings on Dragonstone. How can the NK have existed before Rhaegar? It doesn’t make any sense. The guy had no wounds on his chest from getting it caved in by Robert’s hammer before they plunged the dragon glass into his heart. The theory makes zero sense. It’s like people don’t realize that stuff happened before Robert’s Rebellion.
I just read up on the pissing and moaning about characters decision making and it's pointless. In real life very smart people still make decisions that are wrong. They still overlook details. They still make mistakes. Saying a character making a poor decision is lazy writing because they are suposed to be smart isn't realistic. Just watch to see what the characters actually do and accept that you often can't understand people's decision making in real life either so it's no big deal.
I just don't get how NK isn't going to be at the battle of Winterfell without Bran not knowing he isn't there. It would be a good twist but they'd have to really explain how Bran wouldn't know.
yea, good stuff. got that nervousness in my stomach now because people are about to start dying and I'm completely clueless on who it'll be.
Ghost was there playa When Jon and Sam were talking about telling dany he was standing there with them. Still kind of a snub but at least he was there. One thing that’s for certain is that the show isn’t nearly as sentimental about the direwolves as the books are. Bran coming up with Summers name was one of my favorite scenes from the books
that's what I meant by a snub He was there but not with jon and didn't interact with anyone. Was like a cameo. After so long waiting for Jon's bff that was kinda weak. Rest of the episode was good though and ghost is supposed to make some noise this season
Do we have a list of houses at Wintefell? Final numbers tally? With Jon telling Dany don't they sorta need Howland Reed to show up with his men to finally substantiate the rumor.
Yeah, maybe after the white walkers handle that ass next week they could retreat and run into howland? My best guess is that Dany will just magically believe it by the next episode. Now, does her love for jaegon overwhelm her love for the iron throne? Or do we have a dance with dragons after the ww fall and cersai fall?
I doubt Howland is apart of the show at all, besides I'm sure they'll make Tyrion the person to get through to Dany about Jon's lineage. They made a point to restore her belief in how smart Tyrion is and remember he's a expert on dragons and their history. so he knows only a Targ can ride a dragon. I'm sure that's why they focused in on him watching Jon ride Rhaegal. I'm sure during his talk with Bran about the things he's seen including Jon's story as well.
I thought that episode was laughably bad, even considering the shit they’ve put out the last 3 seasons. It’s annoying how they’ve modernized the language and even so the dialogue is downright atrocious. Sansa/Dany scene, Brienne getting knighted, Missendai/Grey Worm, and Arya/Gendry were all way over the top corny, like soap opera level. Jorah’s scene with Sam was decent until Sam turned and muttered “I hope we win”, I couldn’t help but laugh how ill fit that line was. I’m sure the battle will look cool next episode though