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  1. Louis Holth

    Louis Holth but we also just might be those motherfuckers
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    One of the worst seasons I can remember. At least we get a new coaching staff and hopefully we find somebody dumb enough to give us a fifth rounder for funchess. If not, it’s time to consider cutting him.
     
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  2. momux

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    Think Rivera is all but assured of being fired this year (maybe even this week) and Tepper will install his guy. Hope he’s got someone good lined up.
     
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  3. Matt Foley

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    He’s definitely gone after this season.
     
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  4. momux

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    Also it’s obvious that Newton’s shoulder injury is pretty serious and has really affected the offense.
     
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  5. Ray McKigney

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    Was texting back and forth with my old man about all this. He blames Cams overthrows because he eschews nuance. This starts with the franchise’s inexplicable determination to refuse to add Oline help via the draft. Can we get 3 seasons with Cam, McCaffrey, Moore and Samuel with a top 1/3 Oline? Funchess has got to go, regardless. He seems borderline disinterested. Get rid of Mike Adams and Munnerlyn.
     
  6. Louis Holth

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    What’s really affected the offense is abandoning the only part of it that works consistently for halves at a time in cmc. It’s like we didn’t have the best player on the field in the second half.
     
  7. Louis Holth

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    Entire defense needs retooling in the offseason. DL is old and ineffective for long stretches. TD is washed. Short, Kuechly and Jackson are the only dudes I’d really be hell bent on keeping.
     
  8. Ray McKigney

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    Agreed to some extent. Love TD but I wish he’d bow out gracefully. I feel like we’ve drafted well enough on d for the most part in the recent past to think we can hit on a decent number of guys in a draft or
    2. I have less confidence in Oline drafting
     
  9. Aaron Nevilles Pet Tick

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    I wish the Panthers would deal Cam. I'm sick of watching him.
     
  10. cutig

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    #tankfortrevor in 2 years

    I also hope we can get an actual running back. And an OL. And a new coach
     
  11. Paddy Murphy

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    Great take. Who should we line up at QB once we trade him?
     
  12. Paddy Murphy

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    - Cam’s shoulder is in a bad way and outside the disaster of the last two weeks I thought this year was his best passing season ever when considering standing in the pocket, making reads, and taking what the defense gives him. It won’t show up at the end of the year in the stats but I think Norv has been great for him.

    - CMC, Samuel, and Moore need to be the focal point of the offense going forward. I like Ian Thomas a lot as well. O line has been better than given what came out of camp but not drafting / drafting well there over the years always shows. CMC is an all pro level player and we should have a rule that he touches the ball no less than once every 4 plays. If he can get to the LOS with a yard of space, running or receiving, he’s going to get 5+ yards.

    - the collapse of this D is pretty sad. D Line is washed and KK is still above average but on a top tier contract. Glad we rewarded the guy because he was a monster, but time takes all skills. TD is washed, I have hated Munnerlyn since the day he put on a Panthers uniform. He is 5’3 trash, always has been, and I have no idea why he ever sees the field. He comes in and people motion the #1 option on a play onto him. Big receivers hunt him. He’s slow and has T Rex arms and talks shit like a loud mouth rat dog. I fucking hate him. Mike Adams should have left his cleats on the field yesterday. I like Action, and Bradberry and Reid. Kuechly looks like he’s lost a step to me. He can still read the game so well that he’s there 95% of the time, but I could probably count on one hand the number of tackles he missed in the first 5-6 years of his career and it seems like he misses 2 a game now.

    This was all needed. A forest fire to clear the old wood and sprout new seeds. Tepper will clean house Monday after week 17, and the D is going to look very different next year. Hopefully this misery gets us a top 10 pick and we go draft a monster OL.
     
  13. SC

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    Not a fan of the current running back that's averaging over 6 yards a touch and playing basically 95% of total offensive snaps?
     
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  14. cutig

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    As an every down back, no. He's a great player for sure.
     
  15. SC

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    I'm not sure I understand. He's a great player, but you want him playing less downs and getting fewer touches?
     
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  16. Paddy Murphy

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    He plays 95% of snaps, is top 5 in the league in yards from scrommage, top 5 in rush yards, top 10 in receiving (1st among running backs). Care to share your definition of every down back?

    ETA: he’s also top 5 in touchdowns scored
     
  17. cutig

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    One who weighs more than 200lbs.
     
  18. GrizzliesDrew

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    Clemson fans have the best takes
     
  19. Paddy Murphy

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    He’s listed at 205 but I’ll let it go.
     
  20. cutig

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    I was joking about getting rid of cam.
     
  21. Matt Foley

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    Sick of watching him carry this team since he got drafted? This is such a bad take.
     
  22. Matt Foley

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    TD is most likely retiring. Kalil might be too.
     
  23. Aaron Nevilles Pet Tick

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    No, i'm sick of watching him make the same mistakes he's made since he was drafted. He has terrible fundamentals as a qb. He's just physically such a freak that he's overcome all the bad plays and reads. He also is benefiting this year from Norv's system and dumping it off to CMC out of the backfield 100 times or so. He has a 23 million cap hit next year, then 21.1 million in 2020. So the choice is either extend him at what will be in the neighborhood of 25 million a year, or he signs elsewhere.

    My choice is see what we could get for him, take that money and use it to build around a younger QB. To answer Paddy, I don't know who I would build around, the market now is going to look much different than in the off season which is what I was suggesting.
     
  24. GrizzliesDrew

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    Cam shut down. Thank God
     
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  25. SC

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    Should've done it a couple weeks ago. Better late than never, I guess. Now, just don't wait until March to get him shoulder surgery like last time.
     
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  26. Matt Foley

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    Pep, TD and Kalil probably played their last game in BoA today. Sucks we couldn’t get any of them a ring.
     
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  28. Baby Boy

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    Are we going to do much in free agency? How do we feel about this FA we signed at center?

    [​IMG]
     
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  29. WC

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    Personally was hoping we’d draft Garrett Bradbury* to be our center of the future but now we can focus on DL so that’s fine I guess.

    But to be honest it kind of feels like we’ve missed our window with Cam/Luke and the next 2 years will be fighting off a decline before a total rebuild in 2022.
     
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  30. momux

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    Matt Khalil’s cap hit is insane and hamstringing us. I don’t know if spending 9m a year on a center is a good allocation but I do know we needed one and this guy is supposed to be good.

    Not optimistic at all that this current team will ever return to the super bowl.
     
  31. Baby Boy

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    Welp. This makes me sad. So not a lot to be excited about on the horizon?

    Guess it's back to Smoltzy where we're just brimming with positivity.
     
  32. WC

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    Oh I have no idea, just voicing my thoughts. Maybe Cam matures and has 7 more years of high level play in him but I’d be surprised. I don’t have a ton of faith in Marty Hurney to begin with which doesn’t help.

    The O has a lot of potential with CMC and Samuels, but the line is a question mark and we don’t have a true #1 WR. No pass rush to speak of, tho LB and the secondary are in good shape.
     
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  33. Matt Foley

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    Unfortunately, this is pretty much what I think too.

    The new Center is a really solid player. Basically means we won't have any dropoff from Kalil. Otherwise, a pretty meh free agency period.
     
  34. TC

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    Yeah, but they could be building a cool new practice facility like Dallas Cowboys "The Star"!
     
  35. Baby Boy

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  36. WC

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    If Hurney is able to rebuild the OL and DL through the draft and good FA signings, maybe I'll buy into having another few years of competing for the playoffs. Cam was as good as he's been throwing the ball in the first half of 2018, which was way better than I thought he'd be in a Norv Turner offense. Luke has a couple years before his brain completely liquifies. Shaq is above average, as is Bradbury. Eric Reid should improve with a full year back playing organized ball. KK is still KK in the middle tho Poe was a bit of a disappointment. 12th ranked rushing D, 18th ranked passing D so plenty of room to get better.

    Ok I'm back in go cat.
     
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  37. brobson

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    So how are we feeling about last night and what do we expect these next 2?
     
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  38. WC

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    Burns is really good and a pure pass rusher, but his size is concerning.

    Assume we go OL, DB, or S today.
     
  39. Louis Holth

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    Sounds like they were really happy with Burns there considering this draft is fairly deep along the OL. I feel like they won’t pass on Grier if he’s there today.
     
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  40. SC

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    Love the Burns pick, does exactly what they're wanting to do in terms of generating pressure. Would've been happy with Dillard there as well. Unless the board gets decimated in front of them today, I expect an OL. Wouldn't be shocked if they tried to move up and grab one. They really like Greg Little out of Ole Miss, fwiw.
     
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  41. Louis Holth

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    How does Burns project against the run?
     
  42. SC

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    Fwiw, Dane Brugler's mock for R2 and R3 has Carolina going:
    Drew Lock at 47
    Miles Sanders (RB, Penn State) at 77
    Will Harris, (S, Boston College) at 100.
     
  43. SC

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    It's not a strength, but not a huge weakness either. He can set the edge enough despite his size, and he's got an idea of what he's doing. Just about adding functional strength and size so he doesn't get pushed out of position.
     
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  44. Louis Holth

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    Please say we got a baby Von Miller with this pick.
     
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  45. Louis Holth

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    Desperately need a RB to pair with CMC. Hope they find a way to add protection for Cam, too.
     
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  46. Stagger Lee

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    Drew lock is a strong value play at 47. I think he’s going to be a stud
     
  47. SC

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    Ahem.
     
  48. SC

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  49. Ray McKigney

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    Love both picks thus far
     
  50. WC

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    Take Tyler Jones in the 7th, stick him at guard, and baby we got a stew going