Season 8 TV Thread - Where Nerds Cry About Their Precious Book

Discussion in 'Game of Thrones (ASOIAF)' started by dump, Apr 14, 2019.

  1. Wellen Dowd

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    What the fuck. Did GRRM actually have enough source material to name all of these people?
     
  2. TheGrifter

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    He released a "Fire and Blood" book in November which goes over the Targaryen history.
     
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  3. Wu

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    No Varys
    No Hound
    No Jaime
    No Cersei

    I can’t imagine how stilted the dialogue and acting will be
     
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  4. TDCD

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    ‘Bend the knee’

    ‘I don’t want it’

    on loop
     
  5. Joe_Pesci

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    btw did the night king weigh like a million lbs? he didn't move an inch when drogon shot fire at him but drogon's fire was knocking over fortified stone walls like they were cardboard
     
  6. buy_dont_lease

    buy_dont_lease Ha ha ha. What a story, Mark.
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    Have to imagine Drogon either escapes and disappears or is a goner. My uniformed opinion of how that happens:

    Arya, in the dragon pit, with a bow and arrow (through his eye, the only known weakness in the absence of any additional ballista)
     
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  7. Wu

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    Fire does nothing to him

    He parted the fire barrier the COTF put up when he attacked the three eyed raven cave
     
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  8. Drown ‘Em

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    I’d love it if Dany flies nonstop from King’s Landing to Winterfell and kills Sansa.
     
  9. Joe_Pesci

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    fire also doesn't make stone explode
     
  10. Wu

    Wu Nope.
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    If jet fuel can melt steel beams, dragon fire can bust stone
     
  11. Nostradumass

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    Drogon feels like too much of a fan favorite to kill, even after what happened last week.
     
  12. letan

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    I like that. They have shown her shooting that bow quite a bit this season
     
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  13. buy_dont_lease

    buy_dont_lease Ha ha ha. What a story, Mark.
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    Gotta get that balance of ice and fire in the world.
     
  14. pearl

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  15. LuPoor

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    So fucking stupid. Just write fan fiction like a normal person
     
  16. Nelson

    Nelson Can somebody please get Ja Rhule on the phone
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    It’s concussive dragon fire. Look it up, that’s canon
     
  17. Nelson

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    Don’t actually look it up
     
  18. AptosDuck

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  19. TDCD

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    This has actually been foreshadowed since season 2
     
  20. Wu

    Wu Nope.
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    Listen kid. I read my own posts so I know what concussive dragon fire is.
     
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  21. gus_chiggins

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    The only good thing about Jaime and Cersei running down to the basement was the one final nod to the book readers by showing the skull of the Black Dread one more time whilst Daenerys burned the city to the ground
     
  22. Voodoo

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    Personally I’m still rooting for more dragons.
     
  23. Voodoo

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    I actually did enjoy that.

    “Oh neat there’s Balerion!”
     
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  24. Drown ‘Em

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    I really hate that they humanized Cersei at the end and allowed her to die with as much comfort as possible given the situation. Not sure what I wanted. But not that.
     
  25. Nizz

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    You wanted her to die like Joffrey. Everyone did
     
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  26. Todd Bonzales

    Todd Bonzales Sex with old ladies for money aaaand bear traps.
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    I mentioned while back who I don’t know what death they could have given her that would have satisfied me. The more I think about it, the less that part in particular bothers me.
     
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  27. RavenNole

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    That makes sense and I could believe that but it’s not mentioned by one person. Benioff in the inside the episode calls the first battle scene in the long night “basically the end of the Dothraki” which it clearly wasn’t. Watching the battle, I thought the same thing. A throwaway line by any character at any time could have explained it but that never occurred.

    As long as you watch seasons 7 and 8 like a badass movie and not seasons 1-6 of game of thrones you should enjoy it. Plot development is just radically different.

    Saw a GRRM interview where he mentioned that the early season budget made it so that they couldn’t film some of the battle scenes. That forced them to get the plot and dialogue spot on. People say D&D couldn’t function once the books stop but I think that’s wrong. They did things outside the books in the earlier seasons that were great. I think that makes it worse for me because I know they’re capable of finishing this properly. I don’t begrudge them for being tired of game of thrones and wanting to do something different. If that’s the case though they should have handed off the final 2 seasons or brought in some help.
     
  28. billdozer

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    Arya and Tywin was the best addition they made
     
  29. Mister Me Too

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    Brienne vs The Hound says otherwise
     
  30. gus_chiggins

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    Drogon’s skull is still pretty small compared to his
     
  31. RavenNole

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    Both good choices. I think that’s why the narrative that D&D are not capable of getting this to the finish line with good writing pisses me off. It seems entirely more plausible that they got bored/burned out from game of thrones and are really excited to move on to their civil war alternative history show and Star Wars. They decided that they had the budget to make absolutely badass battles and CGI scenes so they decided to rush to the end hoping people would love it like they would a movie and severely miscalculated why a lot of people love this show.
     
  32. Mister Me Too

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    Part of me feels that it was the network that pushed for the change away from story telling to more of CGI and shock value. However the fact that GRRM is involved with the spinoff shows makes me think otherwise.
     
  33. Lawnole23

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    Pretty easy ending for her. Jaime shows up and Cersei thinks he's there to rescue her. She runs to him and tries to escape and he grabs her and there is brief dialogue from him about the monster she turned him into and he strangles her to death and the ceiling then collapses on him.

    Satisfies the prophesy, satisfies Jaime's character arc and Cersei dies but the hand of one of the only people she ever loved.

    I came up with that in less than 2 minutes and D&D couldn't figure it out.
     
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  34. jrmy

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    Yeah man I always like to take a shit on one of the most beloved properties of all time so that I can rush to put out a show about if racists won the Civil War and institutionalized slavery in the Western world survived the 19th Century.
     
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  35. RavenNole

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    I don’t doubt that HBO asked for some more bang for their buck when giving them a big budget. It seems like they offered 10 episodes for seasons 7 and 8 though and it was D&D’s decision to shorten it because “the story is only 73 or so hours in our heads”. That seemed tough to believe when i first heard it and even harder to believe now.
     
  36. RavenNole

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    Read my last sentence. I don’t think they viewed it as taking a shit on it. They thought that people would enjoy it for the action/CGI and that would make up for the plot holes. The entire premise behind season 7’s “beyond the wall” is dumb as fuck but I do think people enjoyed it and the discussion was more about how awesome it was watching Dany come in and how the night king killed the dragon. They took that badass action/plot shortcut too far this season and the internet has completely shit on what they thought was a masterpiece ending to their show.
     
  37. Nelson

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    Cersei’s death seemed humanizing? Yeah, she’s a human who has done terrible things. Seems like pretty standard GRRM stuff.
     
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  38. RavenNole

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    Most people hated Cersei and would have preferred a more painful death for her like Ramsey and Joffrey got but that’s not something I really have an issue with. If Cersei didn’t get that ending at the same time they decided to make Dany a worse person than her after 7 seasons to the contrary, I think people would have less of an issue with it.
     
  39. Tobias

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  40. IanBoyd

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    King's Landing was built with DBZ explosive building materials.
     
  41. TC5

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    Edit - moving to other thread
     
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  42. IAHusk

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    You know there's an entire thread for this kind of stuff, right?
     
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  43. Nizz

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    Do you go to a psychic regularly and what she says happen happen word for word?
     
  44. Nizz

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    Jaime returning to Cersei satisfies his arc too
     
  45. LuPoor

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    Well it's not really an arc so much as it is a circle
     
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  46. Nizz

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    Whatever satisfies
     
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  47. Nelson

    Nelson Can somebody please get Ja Rhule on the phone
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    Satisfy these nuts nizz